Game 2: Utah Jazz (1-0) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (1-0)

[Jiipee84]

This season is going to be nuts!!!!! Hell of a win.......

I don't know about nuts season but this season will be entertaining for sure.
Too bad continuous winning makes Jazz odds for Wembanyama worse but it is organisation who's tanking not team.
Of course team will try to win so many games as possible that's their job.

And it is not secret what better Conley, Clarkson and Markkanen plays that boosts their trade value.
But is there any trades available where Markkanen, Clarkson and Conley can move for playoff team we'll see that in deadline.

[Jiipee84]

Congrats for 2nd win of the season.
Too bad i haven't had chances to watch these 2 games but i will try watch Sunday's game vs New Orleans.

[SoCalJazzFan]

This team is fun to watch. I find myself cheering for them in the moment, and then realizing my VW dream is fading.

[Crunch 99]

The Jazz had 39 assists. That's pretty remarkable for a team comprised of players who have only been together for a short time. The Jazz never reached 39 assists the entire five years Mitchell was here.

[vryadli]

The Jazz had 39 assists. That's pretty remarkable for a team comprised of players who have only been together for a short time. The Jazz never reached 39 assists the entire five years Mitchell was here.

Mitchell AND someone with Q -initial.


I think that coaches who can organize a team in a pattern which exploits in fullest the better traits of players is awfully underestimated in NBA for last 20 years, The Pope was last of the kind, but he becomes too old. Current coaches mostly cater to available superstars or trying to implement some "innovative" scheme.

[dautjazz]

Our tank must be Russian, it aint working.

[Inigo Montoya]

Damn you Ainge, for building such a likable team that I enjoy watching and that wins games when we should be tanking and sucking.

My thoughts on the game:

1. Markkanen is really good. The guy is legit (even though I think he's playing a bit out of position). Teams should be chasing the Jazz to get him, he could help so many teams with higher aspirations.

2. Clarkson shouldn't be starting. It's kinda weird to say but with him, starting feels like going backwards. We know what he can do as a starter, and he found his best role in the league as a 6th man, where he is most effective and most valuable to his team. But it's good for the tank, so what the hell. He played well tonight, though.

3. I though Sexton should have gotten more minutes. It felt like he was forgotten in the second half.

4. Conley made a lot of little plays that helped us win, and made a big 3. But he also missed a lot of easy shots near the basket and had moments where he looked his age, and he got cooked by DLo. But he absolutely made a lot of heady vet plays that helped us win the game. He was good tonight.

5. Kessler continues to look like he could really be something. He looks very promising to me.

6. Vanderbilt needs to get an offensive game and reduce his fouling. He shot two floaters with his left hand from the middle of the floor (so he wasn't forced to use his left had), but he's shooting free throws with his right had. Maybe he's ambidextrous but he should get some offensive moves so he could use it to his advantage.

7. I thought THT played well too, and he deserves more minutes.

8. Gobert got his revenge. He screwed us and got the last laugh by missing those two free throws at the end.

9. Ainge should be fired.

[FJS]

The best thing it's altough we got 39 assists, we lost a lot of balls traduced into easy points, and it's our second game in a row (we won, but you can't do that and be winning).

We have to improve it, because although was only 13 TO I felt all of them was gifting easy points to Wolves.

Kessler is playing really well. As I said in game one, you can play with intensity because if you have foul trouble, there's another guy ready. Kessler is playing more than expected due to JV and Kelly foul trouble, but he is showing he can contribute.

In a good night we could get with Gobert, Mitchell and Bogdanovic around 65 points, 25 rebounds, 8 assists, 4 blocks, 4 steals

If you count stats by Lauri, Olynikm JV, Kessler, Sexton, & Beasley (the players who get with them) plus THT (traded for Beverley) we got 89 points, 43 rebounds, 21 assists, 6 blocks, 9 steals.

And the best of all... Conley can play the point as he can do, and not to give the ball to Mitchell and wait in a corner. With Jazz he has averaged 4.4, 6.0 and 5.5 apg last 3 years. Now he is with 9.5. Sure that maybe won't maintain that, but sure too he will be above 6.0 he did in his best year as a jazzman.

[red4hf]

I'm already starting not to like Hardy, playing Conley, Olynyk, and Clarkson heavy minutes for cheap wins. He's barely playing and developing the young players. Hardy might be too young and idealistic to think in terms of long term strategy.

I mean, his job is to win games...... And he's got Lauri, Vanderbilt, and Beasley out there......

Winning is the job of a coach and in order to win over many seasons you must develop your talent so that you can create higher future trajectories. Young and naïve people see the world in momentary state, experienced and intelligent people understand high end future gains and dividends have more value towards higher level and long term success.

Whom should he be developing?

[dautjazz]

The best thing it's altough we got 39 assists, we lost a lot of balls traduced into easy points, and it's our second game in a row (we won, but you can't do that and be winning).

We have to improve it, because although was only 13 TO I felt all of them was gifting easy points to Wolves.

Kessler is playing really well. As I said in game one, you can play with intensity because if you have foul trouble, there's another guy ready. Kessler is playing more than expected due to JV and Kelly foul trouble, but he is showing he can contribute.

In a good night we could get with Gobert, Mitchell and Bogdanovic around 65 points, 25 rebounds, 8 assists, 4 blocks, 4 steals

If you count stats by Lauri, Olynikm JV, Kessler, Sexton, & Beasley (the players who get with them) plus THT (traded for Beverley) we got 89 points, 43 rebounds, 21 assists, 6 blocks, 9 steals.

And the best of all... Conley can play the point as he can do, and not to give the ball to Mitchell and wait in a corner. With Jazz he has averaged 4.4, 6.0 and 5.5 apg last 3 years. Now he is with 9.5. Sure that maybe won't maintain that, but sure too he will be above 6.0 he did in his best year as a jazzman.

Conley Jazz averages are right up there with his Grizzlies averages, so it's not really like the Jazz held back a Stockton type assist player, and he's certainly not keeping up 9.5apg, I mean we just had 39 assists last night, so these averages are skewed. In the end of the day, Snyder's offense wasn't really bad, we were number 1 in league offensively for a large part of the season, our defense was the key issue.

[vryadli]

Snyder's offense wasn't really bad, we were number 1 in league offensively for a large part of the season, our defense was the key issue.

That depends on the definition of bad. It produced ample scoring in unimportant games, so average was really good. But it was fragile as ancient China and cracking under any significant pressure.

[dr0welf]

I mean, his job is to win games...... And he's got Lauri, Vanderbilt, and Beasley out there......

Winning is the job of a coach and in order to win over many seasons you must develop your talent so that you can create higher future trajectories. Young and naïve people see the world in momentary state, experienced and intelligent people understand high end future gains and dividends have more value towards higher level and long term success.

Whom should he be developing?

I would Kessler is playing plenty and is probably the number one guy to develop. I would like to see Fran play more though....

[red4hf]

Winning is the job of a coach and in order to win over many seasons you must develop your talent so that you can create higher future trajectories. Young and naïve people see the world in momentary state, experienced and intelligent people understand high end future gains and dividends have more value towards higher level and long term success.

Whom should he be developing?

I would Kessler is playing plenty and is probably the number one guy to develop. I would like to see Fran play more though....

Exactly, Kessler is getting minutes and is obviously going to continue to do so going forward..... Fran is fighting with a lot of other players we've got at that position..... Same thing with Agbaji, it's time to get minutes when everyone else is playing well......

[TNJazz]

Whom should he be developing?

I would Kessler is playing plenty and is probably the number one guy to develop. I would like to see Fran play more though....

Exactly, Kessler is getting minutes and is obviously going to continue to do so going forward..... Fran is fighting with a lot of other players we've got at that position..... Same thing with Agbaji, it's time to get minutes when everyone else is playing well......

It's a long season, 80 games still remain. For now, the love and good vibe around this team is priceless after the last few seasons of inner turmoil and predictable early playoff results. There is going to be plenty of time to develop the young guys, but for now, enjoying the excitement and energy the first two games has produced will only pay dividends for the future as Hardy also needs to develop a team identity and philosophy, otherwise the team will still be on a treadmill. It will be a different treadmill, but still a treadmill leading to nowhere. Developing a winning atmosphere, even if losing is, IMHO, more important than focusing strictly on player development with an attitude of losing to do so. Win early, develop atmosphere of competitiveness, then bring young players into the fold that the vets and more experienced players have set.

I love how JC's game has already morphed, also love that MC's assist numbers have climbed back to where they were pre Jazz days, and even Rudy Gay has seemed younger and more involved both as a contributing player and as a mentoring vet. These are winning culture moves that for now are providing wins and establishing a belief in the team. Having a crop of young players who understand this before the next move of infusing talent via the draft will go further than focusing on developing the raw young players on the team, that will come over the course of the season.

[ForeverRDjazz]

It's funny Patrick Beverley wanted to play with Lakers and got the trade now they're 0 and 2 while Jazz start out beating two top playoff teams and are looking great. Shows you should be careful for what you ask for. Jazz look like a team who enjoys being together. Unlike the vibe from last couple years.