Utah after Indiana's Jeff Foster?

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Post#21 » by stevebozell » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:02 pm

de2nd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Thank you. Glad to see someone actually got the message.


Pull out your dictionary...what does probably mean?
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Post#22 » by Bradford » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:04 pm

stevebozell wrote:Do you know the definition of the word "probably"? Apparently not. And they wouldnt deal him straight up, but I could see them in a combo deal. But no way in HELL do I expect you to understand that.
Probably means you'd consider it, and considering giving up Memo for Foster is rediculous.....And no, the Pacers throwing in some extra garbage in the deal doesn't make it a good enough deal to give up Memo, our starting center..... :banghead:
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Post#23 » by jazzfan1971 » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:05 pm

De2nd: You are a hair away from a suspension here. Keep personal stuff out of this conversation. You know better.
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Post#24 » by stevebozell » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:12 pm

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Probably means you'd consider it, and considering giving up Memo for Foster is rediculous


No, NOT considering it, especially depending on what else you get, from a 3rd team or whoever, is ridiculous.
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Post#25 » by The Sheik » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:15 pm

a 2yr filler at C is not worth Almond. I would also like to get Foster, but for Pacers fan to suggest they would want Almond thrown in is ridic. Foster is not having a particularly great yr and is a backup C, why would we trade a 1st rd pick for him?
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Post#26 » by Bradford » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:22 pm

stevebozell wrote:No, NOT considering it, especially depending on what else you get, from a 3rd team or whoever, is ridiculous.
Well atleast you're not running the Jazz so I won't have to worry about Memo going anywhere anytime soon..... :nod:
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Post#27 » by Bucky O'Hare » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:24 pm

The Sheik wrote:a 2yr filler at C is not worth Almond. I would also like to get Foster, but for Pacers fan to suggest they would want Almond thrown in is ridic. Foster is not having a particularly great yr and is a backup C, why would we trade a 1st rd pick for him?


You greatly underrate Jeff Foster. It doesn't surprise me, most do. 8.6 rpg in 23 minutes is fantastic. 1.8 apg in those same minutes is also very good for a center. He also plays great, scrappy defense. And while he's not much of a scorer, he makes the shots he does take count, shooting 53%+.

Jeff Foster is Utah-type player, the type of player Jerry Sloan will love, and the type of player who does things that win ball games.
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Post#28 » by loserX » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:27 pm

The Sheik wrote:a 2yr filler at C is not worth Almond. I would also like to get Foster, but for Pacers fan to suggest they would want Almond thrown in is ridic. Foster is not having a particularly great yr and is a backup C, why would we trade a 1st rd pick for him?


1) Because Almond may be a couple of years away, and is blocked by Korver anyway. I have no problem adding him in to a trade for a good fit. Korver was a backup wing, and we traded a 1st for him.

2) Foster is one of the league's better rebounders, and there will be a lot of teams anxious to add him if he hits the market. If all we're offering is our end-of-the-bench crap, we'll get outbid by a team that DOES offer a young asset. Given that Almond isn't going to see many minutes for us this year, and who knows next year, I'd be willing to do it.

I understand that not all of you will agree, though. He's an enticing young player...I just don't see the need to death-grip him when we have Korver for another couple of years.
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Post#29 » by The Sheik » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:32 pm

loserX wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



1) Because Almond may be a couple of years away, and is blocked by Korver anyway. I have no problem adding him in to a trade for a good fit. Korver was a backup wing, and we traded a 1st for him.

2) Foster is one of the league's better rebounders, and there will be a lot of teams anxious to add him if he hits the market. If all we're offering is our end-of-the-bench crap, we'll get outbid by a team that DOES offer a young asset. Given that Almond isn't going to see many minutes for us this year, and who knows next year, I'd be willing to do it.

I understand that not all of you will agree, though. He's an enticing young player...I just don't see the need to death-grip him when we have Korver for another couple of years.


I know that Fosters perfect and is a huge upgrade over Collins. I just dont wanna sell out our future at the 2 guard for 2 yrs. There are no guarantees that CJ will be back next yr and Almond (while not ready) has the most upside offensively of any 2 guard we have.

This seems like a great trade for us, I just dont think we have the pieces. I would almost rather trade CJ.
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Post#30 » by loserX » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:39 pm

The Sheik wrote:I know that Fosters perfect and is a huge upgrade over Collins. I just dont wanna sell out our future at the 2 guard for 2 yrs. There are no guarantees that CJ will be back next yr and Almond (while not ready) has the most upside offensively of any 2 guard we have.

This seems like a great trade for us, I just dont think we have the pieces. I would almost rather trade CJ.


Fair enough. The other risk of course is that we trade Almond and lose CJ in free agency, thus ending up with neither next year. (If we DID trade Almond, it would bump up the need to re-sign CJ, or resolve to find someone in the draft again.)

Again, I'd be willing to take this chance trading Mo (I doubt the Pacers want CJ, if only because THEY don't want have to deal with his FA either...they're already going to be in the luxury tax next year), but that doesn't mean the Jazz FO is.
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Post#31 » by stevebozell » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:39 pm

I dont care much abotu 10 years down the line, I think he would be a huge help in getting us to title contenders in the next 3-5 years. I would trade one of CJ or Almond to get him, if that all it would take.
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Post#32 » by ColdBlue » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:45 pm

I trade Almond/Collins + filler for Foster any day.

Memo for Foster is ridiculous.
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Post#33 » by The Sheik » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:48 pm

ColdBlue wrote:I trade Almond/Collins + filler for Foster any day.

Memo for Foster is ridiculous.


I dont think the rumor is insinuating that we will trade Memo for Foster. I think its saying that Memo isnt rebounding and we are looking for a more viable backup option. It just makes no sense for either team.
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Post#34 » by The Sheik » Sun Feb 3, 2008 6:54 pm

I just have a hard time trading essentially the same package LAL sent for Gasol for Jeff Foster.
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Post#35 » by stevebozell » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:00 pm

Yeah, I am a little disappointed we didnt try and get him, if that is all it took. I guess we dont have the huge expiring deal though.
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Post#36 » by The Sheik » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:05 pm

stevebozell wrote:Yeah, I am a little disappointed we didnt try and get him, if that is all it took. I guess we dont have the huge expiring deal though.


Well we could have sign and traded PJ Brown to make it work. That what LAL did with Mckie.
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Post#37 » by stevebozell » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:07 pm

But the main return was Kwames bid deal. I dont think we could sign and trade PJ brown for 9 mil. Maybe we could have, but so could anyone else.
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Post#38 » by loserX » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:09 pm

The Sheik wrote:Well we could have sign and traded PJ Brown to make it work. That what LAL did with Mckie.


Because LAL had McKie's rights, since he was playing for them when his last contract expired. The ONLY team that could do that with PJ Brown was the Chicago Bulls...you can't S&T another team's player. What a mess that would make if you could.

And yeah, the only team that was going to get Gasol was the team who would pony up the expirings. The Griz wanted to save money, nothing more. We had no shot.
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Post#39 » by stevebozell » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:09 pm

So we could sign and trade Tag?
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Post#40 » by The Sheik » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:24 pm

stevebozell wrote:So we could sign and trade Tag?


I would rather sign and trade Mannion

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