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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#201 » by AingesBurner » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:38 pm

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Wolverine wrote:Rumoured Zac Lavine for Clarkson & Collins.
I'd like a pick to get off that albatross contract

If that's the best player the Jazz can get they are better off rejecting this trade and tank next season.


Yeah. That’s poopy.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#202 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:54 pm

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Wolverine wrote:Rumoured Zac Lavine for Clarkson & Collins.
I'd like a pick to get off that albatross contract

If that's the best player the Jazz can get they are better off rejecting this trade and tank next season.


Yeah. That’s poopy.

Straight up dookie.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#203 » by dr0welf » Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:38 am

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AingesBurner wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:If that's the best player the Jazz can get they are better off rejecting this trade and tank next season.


Yeah. That’s poopy.

Straight up dookie.


Sounds like Chicago is trying to set a value and demand for Levine by putting out a false rumor :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#204 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:01 pm

dr0welf wrote:
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AingesBurner wrote:
Yeah. That’s poopy.

Straight up dookie.


Sounds like Chicago is trying to set a value and demand for Levine by putting out a false rumor :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's not that the trade itself is terrible, it's just that with LaVine's contract the Jazz will be stuck with a large payroll and still won't be a good team.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#205 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:28 pm

When Danny Ainge said in his closing season interview that the Jazz would go "big game hunting", I thought it odd given the possible free agents this summer (IMO, none that are in our timeline or realistic would be considered "big game") or even those players rumored to be traded in Feb and this summer (e.g. Dejounte Murray).

However, what if Ainge is referring to players that might truly be considered "big game" and are currently signed and not rumored to be traded or free agents but are on teams that are facing or will be over the 2nd apron? The following teams will be over the 2nd apron next season:
Celtics
TWolves
Suns
Nuggets.
There are some big names with those teams who are still in their 20s.

With the Celtics, the fact that they are going to win the finals means that they will probably be willing to be over the 2nd apron for one more season. However, after that, Tatum and White must be extended. Tatum and Brown would earn over $100M between the two of them! Would one be traded this summer or perhaps the following? Will Porzingis be available this summer? Would the Jazz still want him, even if he is perpetually injured (apparently they did in the past)?

The TWolves are facing trading away KAT or another key/expensive player to get under the 2nd Apron, particularly since they didn't get to the Finals.

The Nuggets have one more year before Jamal Murray extends. KCP is up for renewal, but I don't think that they can afford him. They will be doing some tinkering, most likely, this summer.

Will the Suns owner be willing to go another season to try out his very expensive big 3, or start the process of a rebuild now? Could Booker become available?

If these teams don't make major moves this summer, they most certainly will either in Feb or next summer.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#206 » by Inigo Montoya » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:32 pm

I think this offseason will be pretty nuts with lots of trades and movement. Don't think we need a guy like KCP right now, he's the kind of guy you try to get when you're already good enough to compete for something.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#207 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:43 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I think this offseason will be pretty nuts with lots of trades and movement. Don't think we need a guy like KCP right now, he's the kind of guy you try to get when you're already good enough to compete for something.

I only brought up KCP to show that DEN can't afford who they had this past season.

The question becomes will teams make their moves this summer, or next summer when they are essentially forced to?
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#208 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:50 pm

Piggybacking on my prior message above, assuming the following:
Jazz extend Markkanen this summer (eligible for 4 yr $158M, I believe);
Jazz don't get any big game this summer and teams aren't unloading what the Jazz would want yet; and
Jazz are able to unload John Collins and Clarkson for expiring salary-

Then, Jazz would have a team salary of potentially less than $80M in the summer of 2025 when the teams referred to above will most certainly need to unload desirable players. The Jazz could offer up picks and take on the salary of a major player (All Star/All NBA level potentially) into their cap space, which is what these teams would want to unload their financial burden.

I would actually prefer this scenario as the Jazz could tank this next season, draft a franchise player potentially, and then sign another All Star level vet player over the summer of 2025.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#209 » by WinterSoldier » Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:53 am

Read on Twitter


This is likely not true, but what would a real trade for Lauri even look like?
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#210 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:49 pm

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This is likely not true, but what would a real trade for Lauri even look like?


Monty is full of shite. He doesn’t have any sauces.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#211 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:50 pm

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This is likely not true, but what would a real trade for Lauri even look like?


3-4 unprotected 1sts and decent young player.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#212 » by Jampod » Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:29 pm

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I wonder if this guy has actual sources or if hes just using observation and an educated guess with this tweet. Either way, I wonder what kind of package the rockets would give up for Markkannen.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#213 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:06 am

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I wonder if this guy has actual sources or if hes just using observation and an educated guess with this tweet. Either way, I wonder what kind of package the rockets would give up for Markkannen.


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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#214 » by Gert42 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:22 pm

The problem with any Lauri deal for 3-4 first round picks is that if he’s a 2 or 3 on a team they will be significantly better and I’m not sure I want a bunch of picks in the 20’s.

I personally can’t wait to see other teams fans only offer up their fourth best assets or guys who have underperformed and are coming up on their rookie deal as “the centerpiece”.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#215 » by Catchall » Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:41 pm

Gert42 wrote:The problem with any Lauri deal for 3-4 first round picks is that if he’s a 2 or 3 on a team they will be significantly better and I’m not sure I want a bunch of picks in the 20’s.

I personally can’t wait to see other teams fans only offer up their fourth best assets or guys who have underperformed and are coming up on their rookie deal as “the centerpiece”.


If Brooklyn offered future picks from Phoenix, that might make some sense. If a team offers their own picks, then yeah, it's worth less.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#216 » by D Rog » Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:10 pm

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Gert42 wrote:The problem with any Lauri deal for 3-4 first round picks is that if he’s a 2 or 3 on a team they will be significantly better and I’m not sure I want a bunch of picks in the 20’s.

I personally can’t wait to see other teams fans only offer up their fourth best assets or guys who have underperformed and are coming up on their rookie deal as “the centerpiece”.


If Brooklyn offered future picks from Phoenix, that might make some sense. If a team offers their own picks, then yeah, it's worth less.


I personally believe the Jazz move on from Markkanen, Clarkson and Collins if they can get some decent picks in return. There are a few teams that hold other decent future projected picks of other teams.

I believe the Spurs have a couple unprotected picks (including 2025) from Atlanta as well as a top 10 protected pick from Chicago in 2025 that becomes top 8 protected in 2026. Those could all be decent picks.

I believe OKC has the Jazz pick, the right to swap with LAC in 2025, LAC unprotected in 2026, Miami lottery protected in 2025, Philly 1-6 protected in 2025. Again, those could all be decent picks.

I may be wrong on those specific picks but those are two decent teams to make trades with for draft assets. The goal has to be 2-3 picks projected to be in the lottery in 2025. The Minnesota and Cleveland picks are not going to help the Jazz get into the lottery in 2025 unless one of those teams has a major injury.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#217 » by Hoops Addict » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:16 pm

[I covet the future Phoenix picks. Durant is old and they will be very bad in 3-5 years.

I would do a Markanen trade with Brooklyn, or Houston. Houston can off some draft assets and one of the twins. They are likely to still be terrible, even with Markanen.


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Gert42 wrote:The problem with any Lauri deal for 3-4 first round picks is that if he’s a 2 or 3 on a team they will be significantly better and I’m not sure I want a bunch of picks in the 20’s.

I personally can’t wait to see other teams fans only offer up their fourth best assets or guys who have underperformed and are coming up on their rookie deal as “the centerpiece”.


If Brooklyn offered future picks from Phoenix, that might make some sense. If a team offers their own picks, then yeah, it's worth less.[/quote]
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#218 » by WinterSoldier » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:45 am

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This doesn't seem like a good direction for the Jazz. I don't think the potential of losing next years draft pick is worth it for Lavine.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#219 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:20 am

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This doesn't seem like a good direction for the Jazz. I don't think the potential of losing next years draft pick is worth it for Lavine.


Assume this is the Bulls trying to increase his
value.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#220 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:01 am

Just say no to a LaVine trade to the Jazz.

Also, OKC just traded Giddey to the Bulls straight up for Caruso. I remember the good old days when OKC fans tried to make him the main piece in a trade for Markkanen. You knew they were desperate to move them when they started offering trading Giddey for Collins. Good times.
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