HadAnEffectHere wrote:Sarah Todd said the Jazz really like Kyshawn George and Reed Sheppard fwiw.
I think they'll have to trade up from 29 to get George.
I would draft George at 10. His body needs development but there is a lot of skill.
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HadAnEffectHere wrote:Sarah Todd said the Jazz really like Kyshawn George and Reed Sheppard fwiw.
I think they'll have to trade up from 29 to get George.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
HadAnEffectHere wrote:Castle next to Keyonte is completely uninteresting as Castle's entire appeal is that he can play PG while being big enough not to be exploited by wings like Luka and Tatum.
If you put Keyonte out there, this benefit is completely nullified because those wings will just go after Keyonte.
Castle is way too slow and unathletic to ever be much of a scoring option, his whole appeal is playing PG.
He also has no shot in the NBA unless he becomes an elite elite shooter.
Any of Castle, Collier, Sheppard, Dillingham, or Topic is a soft giving up on Keyonte (which is fine as Keyonte has minimal upside).
Catchall wrote:I think AJ Johnson is a 1st-rd level talent. I liken him to a Costco Kirkland brand version of Zach Lavine. He's not as long and explosive as Zach, but can do much of the same stuff.
SoCalJazzFan wrote:HadAnEffectHere wrote:Castle next to Keyonte is completely uninteresting as Castle's entire appeal is that he can play PG while being big enough not to be exploited by wings like Luka and Tatum.
If you put Keyonte out there, this benefit is completely nullified because those wings will just go after Keyonte.
Castle is way too slow and unathletic to ever be much of a scoring option, his whole appeal is playing PG.
He also has no shot in the NBA unless he becomes an elite elite shooter.
Any of Castle, Collier, Sheppard, Dillingham, or Topic is a soft giving up on Keyonte (which is fine as Keyonte has minimal upside).
In a vacuum, I get your arguments. However, when selecting with the 10th pick in this draft (or moving up a few spots using the later picks), and your potential choices are one or two of Castle, Williams, Holland, Buzelis or Salaun- who is most interesting?
Castle could defend all guards and wings and provide poa/perimeter defense that the Jazz are sorely lacking. He might end up being a decent shooter, as evidenced by his 18/25 from 3 at the combine. Keyonte might become a more efficient offensive player off the ball. It wouldn't be horrible having two decent sized playmakers/combo guards.
If not, the question becomes which wing/forward to choose and do they offer something that Hendricks and/or Markkanen don't already.
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Catchall wrote:I think AJ Johnson is a 1st-rd level talent. I liken him to a Costco Kirkland brand version of Zach Lavine. He's not as long and explosive as Zach, but can do much of the same stuff.
If the Jazz don't go guard with #10, I wouldn't mind AJ being the 29th pick at all. There exists the possibility that he could end up being better than Keyonte.
HadAnEffectHere wrote:Castle is refusing to work out with every lottery team with established PGs so that's every lottery team except the Spurs, Wizards, and Jazz because he wants to only play PG in the NBA.
babyjax13 wrote:HadAnEffectHere wrote:Sarah Todd said the Jazz really like Kyshawn George and Reed Sheppard fwiw.
I think they'll have to trade up from 29 to get George.
I would draft George at 10. His body needs development but there is a lot of skill.
Catchall wrote:babyjax13 wrote:HadAnEffectHere wrote:Sarah Todd said the Jazz really like Kyshawn George and Reed Sheppard fwiw.
I think they'll have to trade up from 29 to get George.
I would draft George at 10. His body needs development but there is a lot of skill.
I like him overall, but his inability to put pressure on the rim leads me to think he's going to get picked in the mid-late teens.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:Catchall wrote:babyjax13 wrote:I would draft George at 10. His body needs development but there is a lot of skill.
I like him overall, but his inability to put pressure on the rim leads me to think he's going to get picked in the mid-late teens.
Maybe. I think that teams probably have a good sense for what they can do from a physical development standpoint, and if their assessment is that his body can be improved and solve some of those issues that he will go higher (maybe higher than 10, I still have him #2 on my big board and don't envision having him lower than 4).
Catchall wrote:SoCalJazzFan wrote:Catchall wrote:If the Jazz don't go guard with #10, I wouldn't mind AJ being the 29th pick at all. There exists the possibility that he could end up being better than Keyonte.
Realistically, I think he's a lighter version of Kevin Porter Jr., but with more brain cells.
Catchall wrote:I think the Jazz are probably going to take a look at Kel'el Ware. They need a young center they believe in, and all things considered this isn't a bad draft to take a big. Ware has the physical tools to be a significant player. Mental tools? The jury may be out on that.
WinterSoldier wrote:Catchall wrote:I think the Jazz are probably going to take a look at Kel'el Ware. They need a young center they believe in, and all things considered this isn't a bad draft to take a big. Ware has the physical tools to be a significant player. Mental tools? The jury may be out on that.
I watched some breakdowns on him and he has moved to the top of my list at #10. His overall game reminds me of Jarrett Allen with a little more potential to hit 3's.
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Catchall wrote:SoCalJazzFan wrote:
Realistically, I think he's a lighter version of Kevin Porter Jr., but with more brain cells.
You might be right, but he could be essentially Kevin Porter Jr and still have the potential to end up better than Keyonte given KPJ and Keyonte's stats for their rookie years.
https://stathead.com/tiny/rXWlc
I'm not saying that the Jazz should draft him end of the first round, but I would consider him.
Catchall wrote:WinterSoldier wrote:Catchall wrote:I think the Jazz are probably going to take a look at Kel'el Ware. They need a young center they believe in, and all things considered this isn't a bad draft to take a big. Ware has the physical tools to be a significant player. Mental tools? The jury may be out on that.
I watched some breakdowns on him and he has moved to the top of my list at #10. His overall game reminds me of Jarrett Allen with a little more potential to hit 3's.
The question on Ware is how hard he works and if he's going to put in the effort to really improve, or if he's going to take his paycheck and laugh all the way to the bank. In terms of physical ability, there's no reason he can't be Myles Turner with even a bit more potential to self-create some offense.
WinterSoldier wrote:Catchall wrote:WinterSoldier wrote:
I watched some breakdowns on him and he has moved to the top of my list at #10. His overall game reminds me of Jarrett Allen with a little more potential to hit 3's.
The question on Ware is how hard he works and if he's going to put in the effort to really improve, or if he's going to take his paycheck and laugh all the way to the bank. In terms of physical ability, there's no reason he can't be Myles Turner with even a bit more potential to self-create some offense.
He made a production jump from freshman to sophomore which gives me hope he wants to improve. What have you heard or seen that gives you doubt that he'll work hard?