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Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:13 am
by Catchall
Green Room Invitees: Cunningham, Green, Mobley, Suggs, Kuminga, Barnes, Mitchell, Bouknight, Keon Johnson, Wagner, Giddey, Jalen Johnson, Kispert, Moody, Jones, Sengun, Thomas, Ziaire Williams, Duarte, Isaiah Jackson.

Not invited: Garuba, Murphy, Springer, Thor, Cooper, Mann, Butler, McBride, Christopher, Dosunmu, Primo, Todd

Garuba would be a steal outside the top 20, imo.

Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:57 am
by AingesBurner
Catchall wrote:Green Room Invitees: Cunningham, Green, Mobley, Suggs, Kuminga, Barnes, Mitchell, Bouknight, Keon Johnson, Wagner, Giddey, Jalen Johnson, Kispert, Moody, Jones, Sengun, Thomas, Ziaire Williams, Duarte, Isaiah Jackson.

Not invited: Garuba, Murphy, Springer, Thor, Cooper, Mann, Butler, McBride, Christopher, Dosunmu, Primo, Todd

Garuba would be a steal outside the top 20, imo.


I only count 21 names.

Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:30 am
by Gert42
I think Garuba wasn't invited because of the Olympics.

Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:52 am
by Catchall
Gert42 wrote:I think Garuba wasn't invited because of the Olympics.


That would make sense

Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:32 pm
by bkohler
Trey Murphy is the name I’m most surprised to not see invited. I thought he’d got himself into the late lottery.

Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:07 pm
by CAE15
bkohler wrote:Trey Murphy is the name I’m most surprised to not see invited. I thought he’d got himself into the late lottery.
Let's hope everyone else forgets about him and Utah looks up at pick 30 and are like wait Murphy is still available?!

Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:44 pm
by bkohler
    Catchall wrote:Kings are reportedly shopping the #9 pick for a veteran player. They're getting tired of losing.

    That's Moody/Garuba territory.


    I’ve wondered if Bogey + 30 would be enough to entice them.

    Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

    Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:46 pm
    by bkohler
    CAE15 wrote:
    bkohler wrote:Trey Murphy is the name I’m most surprised to not see invited. I thought he’d got himself into the late lottery.
    Let's hope everyone else forgets about him and Utah looks up at pick 30 and are like wait Murphy is still available?!


    That’d be incredible.

    Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

    Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:26 pm
    by Gert42
    bkohler wrote:
      Catchall wrote:Kings are reportedly shopping the #9 pick for a veteran player. They're getting tired of losing.

      That's Moody/Garuba territory.


      I’ve wondered if Bogey + 30 would be enough to entice them.


      My guess is that it wouldn't be, but it is the Kings and I think any potential move with Vivek running the show you can't rule out!

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:00 pm
      by AingesBurner
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      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:44 am
      by dr0welf
      LOL, watch us drop Favors to a team and get a later pick and then use it to draft another center.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:36 am
      by AingesBurner
      dr0welf wrote:LOL, watch us drop Favors to a team and get a later pick and then use it to draft another center.


      Don’t you put that evil on me dr0welf don’t you put that evil on me!

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:55 am
      by bkohler
      I'm curious If there's a prospect you'd move one of our vets for if they started to fall...

      For instance I saw a mock that has Kispert being drafted around 25 which is way lower than I've seen elsewhere, If he fell that far and you could get something like Kuzma and 22 for Bogey I'd be in favor. I'm less concerned about the deal but who would you aggressively trade to try and acquire assuming they fell significantly (but not all the way to 30).

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:47 am
      by Catchall
      dr0welf wrote:LOL, watch us drop Favors to a team and get a later pick and then use it to draft another center.


      I wouldn't have a problem with that if the Jazz also trade Udoka and get a 2nd round pick back. I like Neemias and Petrusev.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:50 am
      by Catchall
      bkohler wrote:I'm curious If there's a prospect you'd move one of our vets for if they started to fall...

      For instance I saw a mock that has Kispert being drafted around 25 which is way lower than I've seen elsewhere, If he fell that far and you could get something like Kuzma and 22 for Bogey I'd be in favor. I'm less concerned about the deal but who would you aggressively trade to try and acquire assuming they fell significantly (but not all the way to 30).


      I think Garuba would be a game-changer for us. For all intents and purposes, he's like the Patrick Williams of this draft. He's been underrated in mocks. His defense, rebounding and toughness would change who the Jazz are.

      Jazz would have to take a hard look at Jalen Johnson and project whether he's going to be able to shoot. He's a lottery talent otherwise--6'9" with athleticism and some ball skills.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:06 am
      by SoCalJazzFan
      Catchall wrote:
      bkohler wrote:I'm curious If there's a prospect you'd move one of our vets for if they started to fall...

      For instance I saw a mock that has Kispert being drafted around 25 which is way lower than I've seen elsewhere, If he fell that far and you could get something like Kuzma and 22 for Bogey I'd be in favor. I'm less concerned about the deal but who would you aggressively trade to try and acquire assuming they fell significantly (but not all the way to 30).


      I think Garuba would be a game-changer for us. For all intents and purposes, he's like the Patrick Williams of this draft. He's been underrated in mocks. His defense, rebounding and toughness would change who the Jazz are.

      Jazz would have to take a hard look at Jalen Johnson and project whether he's going to be able to shoot. He's a lottery talent otherwise--6'9" with athleticism and some ball skills.

      First, aren’t both Garuba and Johnson mocked in the teens? I’m not big on Garuba at all. No offense and has other issues. Jalen Johnson, though, I’m up for. If he falls he could be a steal.

      I still think Ayo and Grimes will be solid to good two way players.

      Locke is mentioning players mocked in the 50s that aren't exciting to me at all. Either I’ll be disappointed tomorrow or Locke is clueless.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:47 am
      by CAE15
      bkohler wrote:I'm curious If there's a prospect you'd move one of our vets for if they started to fall...

      For instance I saw a mock that has Kispert being drafted around 25 which is way lower than I've seen elsewhere, If he fell that far and you could get something like Kuzma and 22 for Bogey I'd be in favor. I'm less concerned about the deal but who would you aggressively trade to try and acquire assuming they fell significantly (but not all the way to 30).
      I'd absolutely trade up for Davion Mitchell if he had a slide past 14. Though I can't fathom the Knicks passing on him at 19.

      Garuba I like if you think he can play 4 next to Rudy. Should definitely be able at least fill in that small ball center role if nothing else. If you think he's only a backup center then no.

      Trey Murphy is an obvious one if he slips.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:18 pm
      by dr0welf
      Catchall wrote:
      dr0welf wrote:LOL, watch us drop Favors to a team and get a later pick and then use it to draft another center.


      I wouldn't have a problem with that if the Jazz also trade Udoka and get a 2nd round pick back. I like Neemias and Petrusev.


      I really like Neemias, but I'm USU fan so I would love to continue cheering for him. I would love to have him as our backup center, he plays a lot like Gobert.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:33 pm
      by AingesBurner
      dr0welf wrote:
      Catchall wrote:
      dr0welf wrote:LOL, watch us drop Favors to a team and get a later pick and then use it to draft another center.


      I wouldn't have a problem with that if the Jazz also trade Udoka and get a 2nd round pick back. I like Neemias and Petrusev.


      I really like Neemias, but I'm USU fan so I would love to continue cheering for him. I would love to have him as our backup center, he plays a lot like Gobert.


      I honestly think the Jazz may trade Dok for Queta.

      Re: NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

      Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:09 pm
      by Catchall
      Vrenz was expecting to get picked in the early 2nd round, but it didn't happen. I'm guessing it was with one of OKC's picks or DET's pick that got traded. Now Vrenz has been offered 2-way contracts, but he can't accept them due to his contract situation in Europe. He needs a full contract from the NBA to leave. So he's staying in Europe.

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