2023 NBA Draft Prospects

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#241 » by Catchall » Tue May 16, 2023 5:40 pm

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Catchall wrote:GG Jackson's height, length and bounce measured out like John Collins in 2017.
Jalen Hood-Schifino is as big as Dante Exum, plus an inch longer.
Kobe Bufkin is an inch taller than Jordan Clarkson and has the same wingspan.
Cason Wallace's height and length comp to Deanthony Melton.
Cam Whitmore at 235 lbs is comparable to Grant Williams with a jetpack.
Gradey Dick's height, length and vertical compare closely to Gordon Hayward in 2010.

GG Jackson is two years younger than Brandon Miller, in part as he left HS early to go to college. GG has the size and athleticism and skills to be special. His decision making leaves a bit to be desired, however. Is he worth a gamble at #16 after grabbing a PG with the first pick? Will he end up even being available at #16, notwithstanding current mock drafts?


GG is raw, unmolded clay. You draft him because he has the right combination of size/length/athleticism/handle/body control/shooting touch to be a significant player. I doubt he's available at #16. I think his range is 9 - 15.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#242 » by bkohler » Tue May 16, 2023 8:51 pm

Interesting note from Hollingers article on the athletic:

Apparently he’s been medically red flagged by a few teams for back issues.

Also the combine measurements are in and a few Walker, Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#243 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue May 16, 2023 9:40 pm

Catchall wrote:GG is raw, unmolded clay. You draft him because he has the right combination of size/length/athleticism/handle/body control/shooting touch to be a significant player. I doubt he's available at #16. I think his range is 9 - 15.


GG Jackson is good value at #16. While he's not going to fill our more pressing need, I would have no problem drafting him at that spot.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#244 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue May 16, 2023 9:41 pm

bkohler wrote:Also the combine measurements are in and a few Walker, Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.


Can anyone post a link to the combine results please?
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#245 » by Catchall » Tue May 16, 2023 9:42 pm

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Catchall wrote:GG is raw, unmolded clay. You draft him because he has the right combination of size/length/athleticism/handle/body control/shooting touch to be a significant player. I doubt he's available at #16. I think his range is 9 - 15.


GG Jackson is good value at #16. While he's not going to fill our more pressing need, I would have no problem drafting him at that spot.


If I were the Jazz, I'd try to package #16 and #28 to get another late lottery pick. However, my target might be my favorite guard, whether that's Wallace, George or Bufkin. Rumor has it that the Jazz also like Hood-Schifino.

Personally, I like GG and Bilal.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#246 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue May 16, 2023 9:55 pm

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bkohler wrote:Also the combine measurements are in and a few Walker, Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.


Can anyone post a link to the combine results please?

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#247 » by Hoops Addict » Tue May 16, 2023 11:24 pm

bkohler wrote:Iv Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.


Are you saying Black, Dick are shorter?
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Post#248 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue May 16, 2023 11:38 pm

So, Sasser is the exact same height as Donovan Mitchell w/o shoes, has a shorter winspang by 3 inches, but taller standing reach by 2.5 inches (how is that possible?).
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#249 » by Hoops Addict » Tue May 16, 2023 11:40 pm

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SoCalJazzFan wrote:
Catchall wrote:GG Jackson's height, length and bounce measured out like John Collins in 2017.
Jalen Hood-Schifino is as big as Dante Exum, plus an inch longer.
Kobe Bufkin is an inch taller than Jordan Clarkson and has the same wingspan.
Cason Wallace's height and length comp to Deanthony Melton.
Cam Whitmore at 235 lbs is comparable to Grant Williams with a jetpack.
Gradey Dick's height, length and vertical compare closely to Gordon Hayward in 2010.

GG Jackson is two years younger than Brandon Miller, in part as he left HS early to go to college. GG has the size and athleticism and skills to be special. His decision making leaves a bit to be desired, however. Is he worth a gamble at #16 after grabbing a PG with the first pick? Will he end up even being available at #16, notwithstanding current mock drafts?


GG is raw, unmolded clay. You draft him because he has the right combination of size/length/athleticism/handle/body control/shooting touch to be a significant player. I doubt he's available at #16. I think his range is 9 - 15.


My question with GG is....he surprised everyone by going to college a year early,,,,,if he has significant improvement, he could get much much better. He said a lot of dumb things, blamed teammates, etc,which is not good.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#250 » by Catchall » Tue May 16, 2023 11:49 pm

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Catchall wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:GG Jackson is two years younger than Brandon Miller, in part as he left HS early to go to college. GG has the size and athleticism and skills to be special. His decision making leaves a bit to be desired, however. Is he worth a gamble at #16 after grabbing a PG with the first pick? Will he end up even being available at #16, notwithstanding current mock drafts?


GG is raw, unmolded clay. You draft him because he has the right combination of size/length/athleticism/handle/body control/shooting touch to be a significant player. I doubt he's available at #16. I think his range is 9 - 15.


My question with GG is....he surprised everyone by going to college a year early,,,,,if he has significant improvement, he could get much much better. He said a lot of dumb things, blamed teammates, etc,which is not good.


He was in a bad situation on a team that was getting blown out every week. He handled it like an 18 year-old.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#251 » by SoCalJazzFan » Wed May 17, 2023 12:12 am

bkohler wrote:Interesting note from Hollingers article on the athletic:

Apparently he’s been medically red flagged by a few teams for back issues.

Also the combine measurements are in and a few Walker, Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.

Can you give any additional info on the GG medical red flags?
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#252 » by D Rog » Wed May 17, 2023 12:33 am

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bkohler wrote:Iv Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.


Are you saying Black, Dick are shorter?


LMAO!!! Nice
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#253 » by Hoops Addict » Wed May 17, 2023 3:01 am

Hoopshyp.e odds for the Jazz at #9.

9 Gradey Dick Image Kansas SF Fr 51.41%
Cason Wallace Image Kentucky PG Fr 10.64%
Nick Smith Image Arkansas PG Fr 10.55%
Keyonte George Image Baylor SG Fr 6.94%
Rayan Rupert Image New Zealand (NBL) SG 2004 6.70%
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#254 » by Hoops Addict » Wed May 17, 2023 3:17 am

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#255 » by zero24gravity » Wed May 17, 2023 3:19 pm

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Post#256 » by Catchall » Wed May 17, 2023 3:27 pm

I think Wallace, Dick, Jackson and George are all good picks where the Jazz are drafting. There are scenarios where Jarace Walker might slip to us too. I think those guys are all taken by the end of the lottery.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#257 » by bkohler » Wed May 17, 2023 4:16 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:
bkohler wrote:Interesting note from Hollingers article on the athletic:

Apparently he’s been medically red flagged by a few teams for back issues.

Also the combine measurements are in and a few Walker, Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.

Can you give any additional info on the GG medical red flags?


Ah! My bad my post slotted in late, it was actually Cason Wallace who’s been red flagged
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#258 » by bkohler » Wed May 17, 2023 4:19 pm

Combine measurement results:
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#259 » by bkohler » Wed May 17, 2023 4:20 pm

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bkohler wrote:Iv Dick, Black came in quite a bit smaller than many thought.


Are you saying Black, Dick are shorter?


Yeah, they were both 6’6 when most thought they were taller.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#260 » by SoCalJazzFan » Wed May 17, 2023 5:01 pm

bkohler wrote:Ah! My bad my post slotted in late, it was actually Cason Wallace who’s been red flagged

Thanks. That would be a bummer, and could change how I view him as back issues are tricky and have derailed careers.

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