Future Free Agent Thread

[dr0welf]

Christian Wood just got released from Milwaukee, I would take a flyer on him. He would be low cost and has some offensive game.

[KqWIN]

No talk of Kemba around here. He is the #2 PnR player in the league...thoughts anyone?

https://hoopshype.com/storyline/kemba-walker-free-agency/

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No talk of Kemba around here. He is the #2 PnR player in the league...thoughts anyone?

https://hoopshype.com/storyline/kemba-walker-free-agency/

I always assumed MJ will just give him the brink's trucks and he will stay, but there have been some rumors going on right now that he might be out. I guess I still have doubts that any high end FA will come here and Kemba is about as high end as they come below the very elite ones.

BtW watch Bojan go for the max. 6'8" SF who can create for himself and is scoring efficiently on 50/42/80 clip(61% TS). I'm not saying he will deserve it but someone's gonna give it to him.

[KqWIN]

No talk of Kemba around here. He is the #2 PnR player in the league...thoughts anyone?

https://hoopshype.com/storyline/kemba-walker-free-agency/

I always assumed MJ will just give him the brink's trucks and he will stay, but there have been some rumors going on right now that he might be out. I guess I still have doubts that any high end FA will come here and Kemba is about as high end as they come below the very elite ones.

BtW watch Bojan go for the max. 6'8" SF who can create for himself and is scoring efficiently on 50/42/80 clip(61% TS). I'm not saying he will deserve it but someone's gonna give it to him.

If Kemba is willing to sign here for the max, you have to do it right?

Bojan is interesting. I’ll have to watch him play more. He has a high amount of his shots assisted, but is still getting shots up at a good volume.

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No talk of Kemba around here. He is the #2 PnR player in the league...thoughts anyone?

https://hoopshype.com/storyline/kemba-walker-free-agency/

I always assumed MJ will just give him the brink's trucks and he will stay, but there have been some rumors going on right now that he might be out. I guess I still have doubts that any high end FA will come here and Kemba is about as high end as they come below the very elite ones.

BtW watch Bojan go for the max. 6'8" SF who can create for himself and is scoring efficiently on 50/42/80 clip(61% TS). I'm not saying he will deserve it but someone's gonna give it to him.

If Kemba is willing to sign here for the max, you have to do it right?

Bojan is interesting. I’ll have to watch him play more. He has a high amount of his shots assisted, but is still getting shots up at a good volume.

By the playtype stats it seems like Bojan indeed doesn't have a ton of on-ball possessions(I haven't watched a ton of the Pacers so I assumed he was getting at least some portion of his points by creating them himself, but for example he's in the 91th percentile in pnr(only 10% of his possessions).

And here's the kicker... he gets 22% of his possessions on off-screen actions and he's good at those. What do we do a ton of?

20% of his offense is in transition too... damn... This is such a weird distribution of offensive possessions. He's funky. Maybe I overestimated him as a offensive creator, but he looks much better as a finisher of possessions.

About Kemba... I don't know. I prefer him to Ricky for sure. But I'm not sure how to feel about paying him maxish money going into his 30s.

[Inigo Montoya]

I would not max Walker.

[Ugly0598]

If people think Mitchell is a chucker, Walker is just as bad if not worse.

[Luigi]

I think we need to add Paul Millsap to our list of targets. I could see 2/30 - 2/35 to get him.

Yes, I know how old he is.

[AingesBurner]

I think we need to add Paul Millsap to our list of targets. I could see 2/30 - 2/35 to get him.

Yes, I know how old he is.

Woof, no need for him.

[idajazz]

I think we should be looking for a 2 guard. Move Mitchel to starting point with Neto as back up.

[Luigi]

I think we should be looking for a 2 guard. Move Mitchel to starting point with Neto as back up.

I would like that. Just not sure who we can get at the 2. I would love Holiday, if he becomes available. But something tells me he won't.

I think we need to add Paul Millsap to our list of targets. I could see 2/30 - 2/35 to get him.

Yes, I know how old he is.

Woof, no need for him.

No interest? He could play the Crowder role pretty well I think. And if we could get him for 2 years, the timetable could work.

[dr0welf]

I like Millsap but I'm not interested in bringing him back unless its for a lot less money and he's okay taking a bench role. I would rather keep Favors and or Crowder

[AingesBurner]

I think we should be looking for a 2 guard. Move Mitchel to starting point with Neto as back up.

I would like that. Just not sure who we can get at the 2. I would love Holiday, if he becomes available. But something tells me he won't.

I think we need to add Paul Millsap to our list of targets. I could see 2/30 - 2/35 to get him.

Yes, I know how old he is.

Woof, no need for him.

No interest? He could play the Crowder role pretty well I think. And if we could get him for 2 years, the timetable could work.

Do we think that Crowder is starting next season? If so then I want Dedmon more.

[Luigi]

I think we should be looking for a 2 guard. Move Mitchel to starting point with Neto as back up.

I would like that. Just not sure who we can get at the 2. I would love Holiday, if he becomes available. But something tells me he won't.

Woof, no need for him.

No interest? He could play the Crowder role pretty well I think. And if we could get him for 2 years, the timetable could work.

Do we think that Crowder is starting next season? If so then I want Dedmon more.

I'd want to keep Favors, actually. Gobert, Favors, Millsap 3 man rotation. Crowder would become a trade piece. Just thought Millsap deserved a mention in the list of targets.

[TO11]

I would like that. Just not sure who we can get at the 2. I would love Holiday, if he becomes available. But something tells me he won't.



No interest? He could play the Crowder role pretty well I think. And if we could get him for 2 years, the timetable could work.

Do we think that Crowder is starting next season? If so then I want Dedmon more.

I'd want to keep Favors, actually. Gobert, Favors, Millsap 3 man rotation. Crowder would become a trade piece. Just thought Millsap deserved a mention in the list of targets.

I love Paul Millsap, but keep me the **** away from that contract. no way the jazz do this without some other kind of trade piece. Maybe if the Nuggets give us something in the draft...if you know what I mean .

[KqWIN]

I don't think Millsap is an upgrade over what we have at the big spots. Very little long term upside with a lots of potential downside as well. I'm not a huge Crowder guy, but I'd take Crowder straight up (regardless of salary) over Millsap next season given their respective ages.

I'd rather go for a wing with more upside.

PS: I think it'd be crazy for the Jazz to turn down giving anyone a max contract who will receive multiple max contract offers (Kemba included). If a player that sought after wants to come here, you do it and figure out the rest later.

[Rauxcee]

PS: I think it'd be crazy for the Jazz to turn down giving anyone a max contract who will receive multiple max contract offers (Kemba included). If a player that sought after wants to come here, you do it and figure out the rest later.

If any above average player wants to come play for us we should be pretty happy about that.


I've seen some of us posting about how we don't want to pay 'x' player a max, or near max, or over 20 million, etc. I don't want to pay Conley so I get it. However, if we want to add a starting quality player, we need to accept and get comfortable with the idea that we are going to have to overpay them and pay max or near max money. There is no way we can improve this team with a starter we all want if you aren't forking over a big pay day. It's the only way it'll happen.

[KqWIN]

PS: I think it'd be crazy for the Jazz to turn down giving anyone a max contract who will receive multiple max contract offers (Kemba included). If a player that sought after wants to come here, you do it and figure out the rest later.

If any above average player wants to come play for us we should be pretty happy about that.


I've seen some of us posting about how we don't want to pay 'x' player a max, or near max, or over 20 million, etc. I don't want to pay Conley so I get it. However, if we want to add a starting quality player, we need to accept and get comfortable with the idea that we are going to have to overpay them and pay max or near max money. There is no way we can improve this team with a starter we all want if you aren't forking over a big pay day. It's the only way it'll happen.

I just see it from an opportunity cost perspective. What are we missing out on by "overpaying" Conley? Nothing really. It's not going to prevent us from making moves we could have made. If Conley was getting paid $20M instead of $30M we'd still effectively be capped out. If we're not capped out, no one will take the money anyways. If we don't get him (or Kemba etc) at all, we just end up overpaying our own players instead.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'd be shocked if our cap space turns into anything other than overpaying our own players. There are no realistic, good alternatives. If an alternative comes up, and it comes in the form of an all star level player...you've gotta take it. If we’re not paying Kemba, who the hell are we getting that’s better than him? Sign him and figure it out later. I’d be absolutely ecstatic if he chose us.

This team is pretty damn good despite some glaring imperfections. Some people see that as a reason to stay, I see it as motivation to get better. Get Quin some decent players who aren't completely terrible fits and we might be in business.

[Rauxcee]

I guess my issue with Conley is 2 fold: Memphis was asking too much and his contract is up in 2 years. Which on the surface seems like a good idea as it coincides with Gobert and Mitchell's next contract, but we won't be able to sign anyone at that point other than those 3 and cheap contracts. Mitchell's getting the max, and Gobert will get the max. If Gobert wins DPOY and/or makes an all NBA team 2 of the next 3 seasons (this year included), which he deserves and is very possible, that makes him eligible for a supermax does it not? (Whether we should pay him or not is a separate discussion). So basically if we trade for Conley he's who we are rolling with 2 years from now. Aging, injury prone, 34 years old at that time Conley, because we won't be able to sign anyone else.

I'd much rather sign a younger someone, even if it's only a couple years younger, to a 4 year contract and have them locked in already when we have to re-sign Gobert and Mitchell.

Now if my understanding of what our cap space will look like in 2 years with 2 max players is wrong, please let me know. I could be way off base there.

I do agree we likely won't do anything significant with our cap space. I do not believe we can get a starting quality FA to come. I'd like to try though. If we strike out in FA, which is the likely outcome, then trade for Conley. I just want them to try in FA first.

[KqWIN]

I guess my issue with Conley is 2 fold: Memphis was asking too much and his contract is up in 2 years. Which on the surface seems like a good idea as it coincides with Gobert and Mitchell's next contract, but we won't be able to sign anyone at that point other than those 3 and cheap contracts. Mitchell's getting the max, and Gobert will get the max. If Gobert wins DPOY and/or makes an all NBA team 2 of the next 3 seasons (this year included), which he deserves and is very possible, that makes him eligible for a supermax does it not? (Whether we should pay him or not is a separate discussion). So basically if we trade for Conley he's who we are rolling with 2 years from now. Aging, injury prone, 34 years old at that time Conley, because we won't be able to sign anyone else.

I'd much rather sign a younger someone, even if it's only a couple years younger, to a 4 year contract and have them locked in already when we have to re-sign Gobert and Mitchell.

Now if my understanding of what our cap space will look like in 2 years with 2 max players is wrong, please let me know. I could be way off base there.

I do agree we likely won't do anything significant with our cap space. I do not believe we can get a starting quality FA to come. I'd like to try though. If we strike out in FA, which is the likely outcome, then trade for Conley. I just want them to try in FA first.

If you think the trade package was too much, that’s fair. DL has depleted the young talent of this team with a combination of some bad drafting and trading picks away. We have two draft homeruns, but no singles or doubles. I think that’s a bigger issue than we think going forward.

However, I don’t think the contract stuff holds weight. If we could sign Conley to a two year deal at his salary I would be overjoyed. Is it a lot of money? Yes. Does it have a high opportunity cost? No. The fear of not being able to sign anyone else in two years shouldn’t reason to turn someone away now.

If Kemba wants to sign up? Take him. Middleton, Harris, Butler? Take em. Now, there’s a less than 5% chance any of these guys even consider us, which is why the Conley/Porter contracts did not scare me one bit. But if they do want to play here, you jump on that opportunity.