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Luigi wrote:If Gobert was a little worse, or wasn't a lock to stay, I'd consider it. But as it stands, Gobert is too good to do this.
KqWIN wrote:AD should realize that he can win a championship with NOP if he stays.
Luigi wrote:KqWIN wrote:AD should realize that he can win a championship with NOP if he stays.
It's true. Zion on a rookie contract will make their roster very dangerous. But repairing that relationship might be impossible.
Tom349 wrote:Do we take up Neto's option next season? Im fan of DL but the area I think he can improve considerably is moving on from guys like Neto and getting new guys in with a greater potential. Which we know what Neto is now and in all honesty is it really worth a roster spot?
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?
The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
Inigo Montoya wrote:Neto is a good 3rd-string PG. But he's injured so often that his value for the team diminishes, since as a 3rd stringer he's not seeing much action to begin with, and by the time he gets an opportunity, he's either injured or getting injured from the few minutes he plays and then is shut down for 7 games or so. His contract is small enough to make no difference either way, though.
TO11 wrote:
Most of the board is rejoicing right now. I am a little indifferent, I like Conley, but I see the disadvantages of adding him as well.
stitches wrote:Just read Suns insiders saying there is ZERO chance they trade the pick for Conley or CP3 or Lonzo.
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?
The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
Luigi wrote:I think I may be one of the lone posters interested in Conley at this point. I wasn't huge on him around the trade deadline. But I think that was because I thought we had a shot at a B-lister like Harris or maybe Walker this summer. We don't.
Starting from the premise that we have a 2 year window to make a move (thanks to Mitchell being underpaid as a rookie), what moves do you think will make us a better team than adding Conley? And how likely are any of them? I just don't see one.
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?
The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
Inigo Montoya wrote:Luigi wrote:I think I may be one of the lone posters interested in Conley at this point. I wasn't huge on him around the trade deadline. But I think that was because I thought we had a shot at a B-lister like Harris or maybe Walker this summer. We don't.
Starting from the premise that we have a 2 year window to make a move (thanks to Mitchell being underpaid as a rookie), what moves do you think will make us a better team than adding Conley? And how likely are any of them? I just don't see one.
What are we going to do when Conley's contract is up in 2 years and Gobert and DM are on max contracts? We'd be in even a worse position than we are now. This 2 year window should be used to acquire a player that can be part of the core long-term, otherwise, what's the point?
Luigi wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:Luigi wrote:I think I may be one of the lone posters interested in Conley at this point. I wasn't huge on him around the trade deadline. But I think that was because I thought we had a shot at a B-lister like Harris or maybe Walker this summer. We don't.
Starting from the premise that we have a 2 year window to make a move (thanks to Mitchell being underpaid as a rookie), what moves do you think will make us a better team than adding Conley? And how likely are any of them? I just don't see one.
What are we going to do when Conley's contract is up in 2 years and Gobert and DM are on max contracts? We'd be in even a worse position than we are now. This 2 year window should be used to acquire a player that can be part of the core long-term, otherwise, what's the point?
So you disagree with the premise.
The point is to try to compete while we have the gift of a rookie deal Mitchell. Once we pay Mitchell what he's worth, we won't be contenders anymore.
If you were to agree with the premise, do you see any better options than the Conley deal?
stitches wrote:The key is not to contend while Mitchell is on rookie deal(very limited timline). The key is to get LONG-TERM high end player while Mitchell is on rookie deal(which willextend past the time Mitchell gets his deal). It doesn't really matter much whether we are 1M over the cap or 20M over the cap(as long as we don't go into the tax).
You can either have Conley+Mitchell+Gobert for 2 years... OR... long-term high end player + Mitchell + Gobert for... 4+ years lets say...
It all depends on how good the high end the player we can get is that we are passing on Conley for.