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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#361 » by babyjax13 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:20 am

My opinions on the draft have changed a bit in terms of preferences, but I really like this class and where we have picks.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#362 » by Catchall » Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:57 am

I think Kobe Bufkin is a real possibility at #9. I've believed this since before David Locke started gushing about him. Kid can really play.

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Post#363 » by SoCalJazzFan » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:50 pm

babyjax13 wrote:My opinions on the draft have changed a bit in terms of preferences, but I really like this class and where we have picks.

Same, although I wouldn't mind the Jazz trading up from 16 with the possiblity of getting a highly rated wing/forward and a highly rated pg out of this draft. However, if the Jazz were to walk away with one of Cason Wallace, Anthony Black or Kobe Bufkin and Dariq Whitehead or Leonard Miller or GG Jackson; or alternatively, one of Walker/Hendricks/Whitmore and one of Bufkin/JHS/NSjr combo with their 9 and 16 picks, I would be pretty happy.
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Post#364 » by Hoops Addict » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:53 pm

Hendricks interview. He seems like a great young man who as very talented, but stays humble. I would guess he has a great family and coaches and he would be great in the locker room.

Dude shoots 40% on 3's......shades of K Durant. He is so tall and his release point on 3's is so high it would be hard to block.

He is a very FLUID athlete...he moves effortlessly.....ligtht on his feet.....can crossover you and elevate for a dunk with ease! Great shooter....doesn't need the ball all the time.

Hendrix has dozens of blocks at the rim......he schooled #7 ranked Jarace Walker when they played Houston.

He is a real 2 WAY PLAYERI see a future star who can guard the other teams best player.

Hendricks says his mom made him do tennis and ballet.

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#365 » by Catchall » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:38 pm

Jazz are reportedly bringing in Cason Wallace and Keyonte George to workout together this week. Cam Whitmore, Jarace Walker and Taylor Hendricks are also coming in this week.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#366 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:39 pm

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Post#367 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:26 pm

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Put me down as one who would not be thrilled with this outcome. I like the potential of Bilal, but at #9 that is a big reach as the kid has a lot of development and holes in his game to overcome. I'm just not a Keonte George fan with either of our first two picks, as I believe that there will be better players available. I do like, however, the Jazz moving up from #16, but would rather see other players picked.
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Post#368 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:28 pm

How does Coulibaly end up being a top 30 player in the NBA.

It just doesn't really seem reasonable to project.

Jazz going after two low ceiling, low odds of hitting their ceiling players seems really weird.

Keyonte's ceiling in particular is just really in doubt. At his peak potential, does he even play in the postseason?
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Post#369 » by Catchall » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:46 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:How does Coulibaly end up being a top 30 player in the NBA.

It just doesn't really seem reasonable to project.

Jazz going after two low ceiling, low odds of hitting their ceiling players seems really weird.

Keyonte's ceiling in particular is just really in doubt. At his peak potential, does he even play in the postseason?


Coulibaly needs to physically develop and work on his shooting, but if that's not a problem he's like a mashup of Wiggins and Exum. He guards 1 - 4, finishes plays, makes open shots, and playmakes a bit. If he could shoot off the dribble, he could be amazing.

With Keyonte, you're essentially hoping that he becomes the next Bradley Beal. He's a volume scorer who can create for himself and defend other guards.

I'd be okay with this outcome, but I do think it would involve trading up with Dallas, or possibly adding Toronto in a three-team scenario.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#370 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:45 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Put me down as one who would not be thrilled with this outcome. I like the potential of Bilal, but at #9 that is a big reach as the kid has a lot of development and holes in his game to overcome. I'm just not a Keonte George fan with either of our first two picks, as I believe that there will be better players available. I do like, however, the Jazz moving up from #16, but would rather see other players picked.


Yeah, I don't like it either. Either of them at #16 would be reasonable, but at #9 there are better and safer prospects.
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Post#371 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:04 pm

Catchall wrote:Jazz are reportedly bringing in Cason Wallace and Keyonte George to workout together this week. Cam Whitmore, Jarace Walker and Taylor Hendricks are also coming in this week.

The fact that Cason Wallace is working out with the Jazz this week means that his promise is from Toronto (13th pick), not the Wizards (8th pick).
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Post#372 » by Catchall » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:23 am

I'm picking up a bit of additional chatter to suggest the Jazz could possibly trade up from #16 to #14 with New Orleans. Not sure if the Jazz would be adding the 28th pick or just taking back some money.

At #14, two or possibly three out of Cason Wallace, Keyonte George, Kobe Bufkin and Jalen Hood-Schifino would be available. As I mentioned earlier, George and Wallace are working out for the Jazz this week.
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Post#373 » by AingesBurner » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:11 pm

Catchall wrote:I'm picking up a bit of additional chatter to suggest the Jazz could possibly trade up from #16 to #14 with New Orleans. Not sure if the Jazz would be adding the 28th pick or just taking back some money.

At #14, two or possibly three out of Cason Wallace, Keyonte George, Kobe Bufkin and Jalen Hood-Schifino would be available. As I mentioned earlier, George and Wallace are working out for the Jazz this week.


They would have to include 28 but that seems a tad short, at least get to 13 Ainge.
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Post#374 » by bkohler » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:47 pm

My prediction is we hold at 9, trade 16 & 28 for something between 10 - 13 and then buy IND 26th pick which has been rumored for sale.

Still walk away with 3 rookies but get the ones you want at each position, assuming we’re okay with whatever falls to 9.
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Post#375 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:07 pm

I don't expect us to end up with three rookies. If we can't move up from #9, I expect we use it and then either use #16, try to package #16+#28 to move up a bit, but in any case we'll probably trade #28.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#376 » by SoCalJazzFan » Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:23 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I don't expect us to end up with three rookies. If we can't move up from #9, I expect we use it and then either use #16, try to package #16+#28 to move up a bit, but in any case we'll probably trade #28.

I think that you are probably right.
However, while I am ok with using #28 to trade up for a player, in this particular draft and given the wealth of future picks, I would hate for the Jazz to trade #28 for future picks and let a high risk/reward player, like GG Jackson or Dariq Whitehead, slip away. Also, it seems to me that there could be players at #28 that in a normal draft would be picked in the teens.
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Post#377 » by Hoops Addict » Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:12 pm

Do we need to trade down to #13 to get Wallace or Hood Schifino? We can get Bufin or Nick Smith at #16.

I am open to trading up with #16, #28.

I would take Hendricks over CouliBily.
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Post#378 » by bkohler » Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:28 pm

I think how many rookies we take will really signal what we're getting in the coming year. If we take all three, we're probably in for another rebuilding year. If we move one or more, we're probably attempting to snag a playoff spot.

It'll probably matter what other teams are doing as well. Not just with their picks but also with trades around the draft, as it might clear the path for us to be a playoff contender or make the path more difficult and perhaps lead us towards leaning more into development this next year.
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Post#379 » by Hoops Addict » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 am

The trade suggestged is Trade #9 and #28 for #7 and #16. Is that fair? Do we get the ace we want at #7?

Who do we pick at 7?

Will one of the 2 we want drop to the Jazz at (...out of Walker and Hendricks?
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Post#380 » by stitches » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:24 am

SoCalJazzFan wrote:This is how the U.S. prospects were ranked heading into college this time last year:

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool/

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2022?position=ALL%20POSITIONS

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2022/order/true

Were they wrong, or are we sleeping on Dariq and NSJr, who were consisently the #1 and #2 ranked players, due to their injuries last season?

I don't have as much time to watch games this year and I've been limited to the NCAA tournament and to highlights mainly. When I watched Whitehead I was very intrigued, because of some great athletic, ballhandling and rim attack flashes in addition to him actually hitting high % on his 3p shots... knowing he played injured adds to the intrigue. I cannot say the same about Nick Smith Jr. I thought he was incredibly... ordinary... he pretty much never goes to the rim. He's shooting tons and TONS AND TONS of floaters. That won't fly in the league. I didn't see great self-creation or creation for others from him.

Now... no idea what their respective medicals say because Whitehead seems to be having yet another injury and NSJ had some sort of injury too... but if they are cleared medically, I personally would be happy taking Whitehead at 16 and I wouldn't want anything to do with Nick Smith Jr...

Take this with a bucket of salt since again - this is based on very limited film I've seen.

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