Just let CJ go..

[franklin]

Thats the problem, CJ is a role player and not our "Deadly three-point threat".

I see your point of using his money on someone like Matthews, Tyreke Evans or even Afflalo. But do your really think that is even close to happening?

Me neither...

Tyreke Evans, sure, but the others, why not?

Millsap > Matthews. Portland would jump if they saw the need. Millsap for Marcus Thornton would slide right through as well, but I'm not giving up Millsap for Thornton only.

The only thing stopping Utah from grabbing Afflalo is money. If the MLE is higher than what others want to pay then he's in a Jazz uni next season. Jazz don't have more cap room than the MLE value.

[The59Sound]

I think he can be a good shooter. Like you said he need a "role" not a green light. That would help his % quite a bit.

Sure. Shooting fewer ridiculously bad shots would help his percentage some. But is there any evidence to suggest he's going to? And anyway, he seems to clank plenty of his wide-open ones.

This conversation has gone from:

"Did you guys even watch the games? CJ is a talented shooter who is better than Korver"
to
"CJ is a role player and not a three-point threat"
to
"I think he could maybe have a role as a good shooter if he shot less."

[Getjazz]

My hole point was that the CJ haters are putting his value to high for the money he is making. People have stated that 3 Mil a yr is a lot, or sounds like a lot. Which isn't true for NBA standards.

For 3 Mil a yr your not getting a better player in here. Plus he knows the system, wants to be here and is still only 24 yrs old. Plus you still have Millsap to trade for any one of those awesome 6-10 mil a yr guys everyone is wanting CJ to be.

Maybe a sign and trade with Orlando for J Rich, or anyone that float your boat.

[eLo]

I'm not sure that most of the CJ haters are true Jazz fans that watch every game and every play. If so then you would see and know that for 3.7 mil your not getting a better player. Maybe not even close. You need guys like CJ on your team

exactly, for a 3,7 mil$ every one who think a bit would risk on Cj. His last season was not tragic, it was not great either but Jazz as whole team play bad so its hard to take solid proves from that.

[The59Sound]

My hole point was that the CJ haters are putting his value to high for the money he is making. People have stated that 3 Mil a yr is a lot, or sounds like a lot. Which isn't true for NBA standards.

For 3 Mil a yr your not getting a better player in here. Plus he knows the system, wants to be here and is still only 24 yrs old. Plus you still have Millsap to trade for any one of those awesome 6-10 mil a yr guys everyone is wanting CJ to be.

Maybe a sign and trade with Orlando for J Rich, or anyone that float your boat.

4 million dollars is a relative pittance for NBA players (that's hyperbole, but let's proceed from the premise that I agree with that point). The question must still be asked: why pay anything for a guy that actively makes your team worse?

The argument of the "haters" isn't that 4 million dollars is too much to pay for his contributions to the basketball team. It seems to me, the argument is that 4 million dollars is too much to pay for someone who actually has negative value.

[eLo]

It seems to me, the argument is that 4 million dollars is too much to pay for someone who actually has negative value.

what does it mean "negative value" You trying to tell me that Cj drown Jazz chances for play offs last season, he was "weakest link" , come one man Miles didnt help much Jazz last season but he didnt cause big problems either, he throw lot of bricks but to justify him many of those shoots where forced because no one else even risked to take it.

[Getjazz]

That's where we disagree 59. I don't feel that CJ is a negative value. He won as many games as he lost. He was as hot as he was cold.

I guess we just have to disagree on this one. I think he is a good guy to add to the mix, you don't. Oh well...

[carrottop12]

Sorry get jazz, but that isn't even close to true.

If cj was hot as often as he was cold he wouldn't have shot 40/32%, the worst of his career as a rotational player. He was seriously such a liability last year it was crazy. He was by far one of the worst players at his position last year was was a big reason we lost so many games.

[ColdBlue]

I don't think CJ has negative value or whatever, but he certainly failed to seize the opportunity that was given him. I do think he could be an asset coming off the bench a few minutes a game and helping the rooks with the system next year. He has a good attitude and can probably benefit the team in some way.

[The59Sound]

Sorry get jazz, but that isn't even close to true.

If cj was hot as often as he was cold he wouldn't have shot 40/32%, the worst of his career as a rotational player. He was seriously such a liability last year it was crazy. He was by far one of the worst players at his position last year was was a big reason we lost so many games.

I'll just "+1" Bat here to avoid having to quote another misplaced eLo eye-roll emoticon.

Fair enough, get jazz. We can agree to disagree. I won't lose any sleep over picking up CJ's option, but I'll be disappointed if we do. He's a really great kid, and I want him to succeed on a personal level, but it's time for him to go.

[carrottop12]

The jazz would be better off bringing in ime udoka at the vet minimum and saving 2.5 million than they would be bringing cj back.

[Litany]

Sorry get jazz, but that isn't even close to true.

If cj was hot as often as he was cold he wouldn't have shot 40/32%, the worst of his career as a rotational player. He was seriously such a liability last year it was crazy. He was by far one of the worst players at his position last year was was a big reason we lost so many games.

I'll just "+1" Bat here to avoid having to quote another misplaced eLo eye-roll emoticon.

Fair enough, get jazz. We can agree to disagree. I won't lose any sleep over picking up CJ's option, but I'll be disappointed if we do. He's a really great kid, and I want him to succeed on a personal level, but it's time for him to go.

I also noticed the excessive use of the eye-roll emoticon by Mr. eLo. What % of his posts would you say contain an eye-roll? 90%?

[The59Sound]

Sorry get jazz, but that isn't even close to true.

If cj was hot as often as he was cold he wouldn't have shot 40/32%, the worst of his career as a rotational player. He was seriously such a liability last year it was crazy. He was by far one of the worst players at his position last year was was a big reason we lost so many games.

I'll just "+1" Bat here to avoid having to quote another misplaced eLo eye-roll emoticon.

Fair enough, get jazz. We can agree to disagree. I won't lose any sleep over picking up CJ's option, but I'll be disappointed if we do. He's a really great kid, and I want him to succeed on a personal level, but it's time for him to go.

I also noticed the excessive use of the eye-roll emoticon by Mr. eLo. What % of his posts would you say contain an eye-roll? 90%?

I think that's in the ballpark...

[idajazz]

I wouldn't miss CJ as long as they bring in an upgrade.
Shane Battier anybody? he is unrestricted, I have always liked him!!!

[idajazz]

Jason Kapono?

[carrottop12]

I was thinking about kapono also, though really all he can do is shoot. He'd fill that need, otherwise I think he's hard to keep on the floor.

[Ugly0598]

Kapono is garbage, maybe get Battier for 3-4 million.

[ColdBlue]

Battier over CJ is a no brainer. I didn't realize he was UFA.

[Getjazz]

I think Battier could be huge for the growth of our young players. Including CJ. If it's one or the other than Battier has to be the guy.

[idajazz]

Kapono is garbage, maybe get Battier for 3-4 million.

I'm going to venture a guess that Battier will get more than 3-4, Somebody will throw out a milsap type offer for him.