Motiejunas to Jazz?

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Just thinking out loud.. I wonder if the Jazz put an offer before the Nets offer.. and now Motiejunas has changed his mind and wants to join the Jazz? That's not tampering..? OH WELL *GRABS POPCORN*

The Rockets board is fairly convinced it's Utah. That same known insider cyberx (who isn't a Rockets fan btw) has created a thread about Utah offering more money.

Again - the calculations just don't make any sense, unless they are offering 1 year deal and EVEN THEN we should probably use that money for renegotiate and extend Hill and/or Favors before we think about offering DMo any money. I will make the calculations later so you can post it for HOU fans at clutchfans because I was reading their thread and it's ridiculous.

Here it goes:

Utah has 13.65M in capspace. They can use this money to either give R&E to one or both(more likely one) of Hill and Favors or they can give some part of it to DMo.

Here's the cap situation in case we want to sign DMo(read in clutchfans they are floating 23M for 2 seasons guaranteed number. lets say it's true and the Jazz want to give him 12M in first year and 11M in the second year).

Contracts for 2017-2018:
Derrick Favors : 12M
Joe Johnson: 10.5M
Alec Burks: 11M
Dante Exum: 5M
Trey Lyles: 2.5M
Rudy Gobert: 21M
Rodney Hood: 2.5M
DMo - 11M
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75.5M

That's WITHOUT Hayward (possibly around 28M) and Hill(Lets say 20M) and that is without Diaw(7.5 non-guaranteed, Neto 1M non-guaranteed, Joel Bolomboy 1M non-guaranteed, Joe Ingles 2.6M QO). I'm not including ANY of them.

If we want to keep Hayward and Hill we would be at 123.5M with 6 more roster spots to fill(or at least 6 more million in salary cap to fill). This would be way over the luxury tax(currently projected at around 122M). This is not happening! The Jazz won't choose DMo over any of our key players(Hill, Hayward, Favors). It just makes no sense at all.

The other option is to give him just 1 year deal, but then again... why would we choose that instead of relieving the money crunch we will have in 2018 by frontloading either Hill or Favors contract? Why would anybody choose 1 year of DMo(whose condition we don't know anything about), over making it much easier to keep our core long-term? Again, it makes no sense.

[AingesBurner]

Just thinking out loud.. I wonder if the Jazz put an offer before the Nets offer.. and now Motiejunas has changed his mind and wants to join the Jazz? That's not tampering..? OH WELL *GRABS POPCORN*

The Rockets board is fairly convinced it's Utah. That same known insider cyberx (who isn't a Rockets fan btw) has created a thread about Utah offering more money.

Again - the calculations just don't make any sense, unless they are offering 1 year deal and EVEN THEN we should probably use that money for renegotiate and extend Hill and/or Favors before we think about offering DMo any money. I will make the calculations later so you can post it for HOU fans at clutchfans because I was reading their thread and it's ridiculous.

Here it goes:

Utah has 13.65M in capspace. They can use this money to either give R&E to one or both(more likely one) of Hill and Favors or they can give some part of it to DMo.

Here's the cap situation in case we want to sign DMo(read in clutchfans they are floating 23M for 2 seasons guaranteed number. lets say it's true and the Jazz want to give him 12M in first year and 11M in the second year).

Contracts for 2017-2018:
Derrick Favors : 12M
Joe Johnson: 10.5M
Alec Burks: 11M
Dante Exum: 5M
Trey Lyles: 2.5M
Rudy Gobert: 21M
Rodney Hood: 2.5M
DMo - 11M
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75.5M

That's WITHOUT Hayward (possibly around 28M) and Hill(Lets say 20M) and that is without Diaw(7.5 non-guaranteed, Neto 1M non-guaranteed, Joel Bolomboy 1M non-guaranteed, Joe Ingles 2.6M QO). I'm not including ANY of them.

If we want to keep Hayward and Hill we would be at 123.5M with 6 more roster spots to fill(or at least 6 more million in salary cap to fill). This would be way over the luxury tax(currently projected at around 122M). This is not happening! The Jazz won't choose DMo over any of our key players(Hill, Hayward, Favors). It just makes no sense at all.

The other option is to give him just 1 year deal, but then again... why would we choose that instead of relieving the money crunch we will have in 2018 by frontloading either Hill or Favors contract? Why would anybody choose 1 year of DMo(whose condition we don't know anything about), over making it much easier to keep our core long-term? Again, it makes no sense.

Like I said if its true then Favors is the odd man out because the Jazz like DMo more than him.

[uber_snotling]

Why would we dump our chronically injured big man for an even more chronically injured big man?

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Like I said if its true then Favors is the odd man out because the Jazz like DMo more than him.

What in the world would make anyone like DMo more than Favors? If anyone in our FO thinks that we have more serious problems than whether we keep Favors or get DMo...

[AingesBurner]

Like I said if its true then Favors is the odd man out because the Jazz like DMo more than him.

What in the world would make anyone like DMo more than Favors?

Hell if know, I am just saying that if the Jazz signing DMo is true then Favs must be the odd man out and they must like DMo for some reason.

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Like I said if its true then Favors is the odd man out because the Jazz like DMo more than him.

What in the world would make anyone like DMo more than Favors?

Hell if know, I am just saying that if the Jazz signing DMo is true then Favs must be the odd man out and they must like DMo for some reason.

The other option would be them trying to get rid off Burks and/or Joe Johnson. But again, that would mean they value DMo more than them and again, I'm not sure they should value him more than them.

[AingesBurner]

What in the world would make anyone like DMo more than Favors?

Hell if know, I am just saying that if the Jazz signing DMo is true then Favs must be the odd man out and they must like DMo for some reason.

The other option would be them trying to get rid off Burks and/or Joe Johnson. But again, that would mean they value DMo more than them and again, I'm not sure they should value him more than them.

I don't know, they must know something we dont.

[Daddy 801]

They might not think he is DMO is the better player. They might just think he is a good player who they can get on a decent contract. Maybe Favs agent has shown he is going for the max despite Favs injury history and the Jazz want to get a player they view as insurance for trading Favs. There are many scenarios where I can see why they sign a bigman and trade Favs.

[Matt007b]

What my thinking is... maybe Favors knees are really in bad shape and the Jazz now have the option if they move now to get a big man who can pass/shoot outside and spread the floor as a PF.. Favors makes 11 million and you can give that to Motiejunas on a two year with a team option deal which doesn't screw up plans on extensions for other players..

(*IF* Favors is in bad shape, just depends on the long term plan with Favors.. least that's the thinking I can come up with.)

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What my thinking is... maybe Favors knees are really in bad shape and the Jazz now have the option if they move now to get a big man who can pass/shoot outside and spread the floor as a PF.. Favors makes 11 million and you can give that to Motiejunas on a two year with a team option deal which doesn't screw up plans on extensions for other players..

(*IF* Favors is in bad shape, just depends on the long term plan with Favors.. least that's the thinking I can come up with.)

or... the much more simple explanation that this is a fake rumor on a fansite?

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I dont like it. His health is a major concern. A healthy, big Power Forward with medium ability to rebound and play defense would be an upgrade for the current lineup.

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[Cappy_Smurf]

Just thinking out loud.. I wonder if the Jazz put an offer before the Nets offer.. and now Motiejunas has changed his mind and wants to join the Jazz? That's not tampering..? OH WELL *GRABS POPCORN*

The Rockets board is fairly convinced it's Utah. That same known insider cyberx (who isn't a Rockets fan btw) has created a thread about Utah offering more money.

Even if the Rockets were, for some reason, dumb enough to let him out of a contract he just signed, in order to get a bigger deal, I don't believe there's a chance in hades the league would allow it. It would set a precedent for other players, anytime they didn't like their contract, to hold out until they were let out of it.

Stitches is 100% correct that it makes zero sense for Utah, but even if that wasn't the case, nothing else here being theorized makes a lick of sense. Somebody got some bad info somewhere and their normally good reputation has caused this thing to spiral out of control, IMO.

[Matt007b]

well the Rockets just renounced the rights to Motiejunas... he's a free agent now. Could be an upgrade backup to Gobert... (if they want him..)

[millslapper]

Getting a player after such a chaotic contract debate is mostly not good. also it could destroy some team chemistry.

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well the Rockets just renounced the rights to Motiejunas... he's a free agent now. Could be an upgrade backup to Gobert... (if they want him..)

I don't think getting a player who just failed a SECOND physical and had a SECOND deal fall through because of it, is very wise.

[pickIBL]

My guess is bj Armstrong just needs to admit he's a moron and tell his client he is completely screwed at this point.

[Cappy_Smurf]

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I have no idea how his agent still has a job.