2024 Trade Rumors

[Daddy 801]

Seems inevitable Collins will be moved. I think he might be the only guy, though. Sacramento would be nice with him.

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Collins and Sexton will be moved.

[D Rog]

Personally, the one player I would like moved the most would be Clarkson to help clear playing time for the younger guards. I realize he has only played about 1/2 of the games, but he is definitely not in the long-term plans.

I am not quite as anxious to move on from Collins or Sexton. Collins is the same age as Markkanen (the player the Jazz appear to be building around). Maybe someday, Hendricks or Flip prove themselves worthy to replace Collins, but I haven't seen enough out of them yet. I don't think the Jazz can have 10 guys that are 21 or 22 years old (or younger) plus Markkanen.

I am good with a trade if the Jazz get a VERY solid offer from a team, but I am not in a hurry.

[Inigo Montoya]

The Jazz are trying to get the highest pick possible and Collins and Sexton are costing the Jazz losses. You're essentially trading them for a top 3 pick (by ensuring the Jazz get to that range by getting worse). Collins will not be on the Jazz beyond his contract and the front court is crowded as it is.

[Hoops Addict]

The Jazz are trying to get the highest pick possible and Collins and Sexton are costing the Jazz losses. You're essentially trading them for a top 3 pick (by ensuring the Jazz get to that range by getting worse)..

Great analysis. Collins and Sexton are good.....they could prevent us from picking 2nd....trade them.

[Catchall]

The Jazz are trying to get the highest pick possible and Collins and Sexton are costing the Jazz losses. You're essentially trading them for a top 3 pick (by ensuring the Jazz get to that range by getting worse). Collins will not be on the Jazz beyond his contract and the front court is crowded as it is.

The Jazz currently have the 2nd-worst record in the league, while the worst record is pretty much unapproachable. The Jazz want to get value for their players, and clearly they're having no problem tanking for good lottery odds and a top-6 pick. That's about the best the Jazz can do with the current lottery system.

[Inigo Montoya]

Walker Kessler 'Essentially Unavailable' In Trade Talks With Jazz
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278929/Walker-Kessler-Essentially-Unavailable-In-Trade-Talks-With-Jazz

[LakersSoul]

Walker Kessler 'Essentially Unavailable' In Trade Talks With Jazz
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278929/Walker-Kessler-Essentially-Unavailable-In-Trade-Talks-With-Jazz

2025 NBA draft is center heavy with full of 7 footers.

This will be the last chance for Ainge to get a GREAT return for Kessler who is great on D but thats it.

[Inigo Montoya]

Walker Kessler 'Essentially Unavailable' In Trade Talks With Jazz
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278929/Walker-Kessler-Essentially-Unavailable-In-Trade-Talks-With-Jazz

2025 NBA draft is center heavy with full of 7 footers.

This will be the last chance for Ainge to get a GREAT return for Kessler who is great on D but thats it.

The offers I've seen from the Lakers' side (fans, analysts, pundits and talking heads) were far from a great return for the Jazz. In fact, I don't think I've seen a great offer by any team for Kessler yet. I don't see what the Lakers have that could entice the Jazz and would make sense.

[Jammer]

The problem with the Lakers is they are holding onto picks in case they want to tank in 2027, 2028 and 2029. If they really wanted to give LeBron and AD a chance at a title (they are 2 of the 10 best players in the League), the Lakers would have pulled the trigger last summer. However, there is one trade that the Lakers could pull off, if they wanted, that would be a huge upgrade, but would cost them 3 1rst Round Picks (2029, 2031 and remove protection on 2027 to Utah). The Lakers would probably have to send out close to the max allowable of $7.24 Million cash, though, since they'd be trading 5 garbage players for two good ones from Utah and a stabilizing veteran PG. This trade was already proposed by Cap Guru Eric Pincus without the addition of the cash, but when you look at the junk the Lakers are clearing, it would be required.

The Lakers are also constrained by having 5 family member owners, so every $5 Million less profit is basically $1 million out of each Buss kid's pocket. Jeannie is the boss, but she has to get along with her whiny siblings. It's definately not an ideal management structure going forward. Anyway,

Lakers get Collin Sexton, Walker Kessler, and Paddy Mills
Lakers give up Top 4 Protection on 2027 1rst, Unprotected 2029 1rst, Unprotected 2031 1rst, $7.2 Million cash, Jaylen Hood-Schifino, Christian Wood, Gabe Vincent, Jaxson Hayes and Cam Reddish.

3 stages because it's a 5 for 3 so Utah has to clear 2 roster spots by waiving the first two Lakers coming over

Simultaneous trade, with the following 3 steps

Step 1
Lakers trade Jaylen Hood-Schifino, 2029 UNPROTECTED 1rst, remove Top 4 protection on 2027 1rst + $2 Million cash for Walker Kessler. Utah immediately waives Jaylen Hood-Schifino.

Step 2
Lakers trade Christian Wood + $1.2 Million cash for Paddy Mills. Utah immediately waives Christian Wood.

Step 3
Lakers trade 2031 1rst (unprotected), Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes + $4 Million cash to Utah for Collin Sexton.

Logic
Kessler is better than your typical mid 1rst Round Pick. Top 4 Protection removal on 2027 picks required. Hood-Schifino is trash, Lakers cover his remaining salary.

Christian Wood is shipped out but Utah waives him to create xtra Roster spot for overall 5 for 3 trade to work. Lakers pay Wood's remaining salary to Utah.

Sexton is a Top 20 PG in the NBA. He costs a 1rst. Vincent's salary is excessive this season and NEXT. He's worth about 3 Million, not 11 million + 11.5 Million. Excessive Salary somewhat compensated by Lakers. The rest made up by taking a flyer on Hayes and Reddish.

[red4hf]

The problem with the Lakers is they are holding onto picks in case they want to tank in 2027, 2028 and 2029. If they really wanted to give LeBron and AD a chance at a title (they are 2 of the 10 best players in the League), the Lakers would have pulled the trigger last summer. However, there is one trade that the Lakers could pull off, if they wanted, that would be a huge upgrade, but would cost them 3 1rst Round Picks (2029, 2031 and remove protection on 2027 to Utah). The Lakers would probably have to send out close to the max allowable of $7.24 Million cash, though, since they'd be trading 5 garbage players for two good ones from Utah and a stabilizing veteran PG. This trade was already proposed by Cap Guru Eric Pincus without the addition of the cash, but when you look at the junk the Lakers are clearing, it would be required.

The Lakers are also constrained by having 5 family member owners, so every $5 Million less profit is basically $1 million out of each Buss kid's pocket. Jeannie is the boss, but she has to get along with her whiny siblings. It's definately not an ideal management structure going forward. Anyway,

Lakers get Collin Sexton, Walker Kessler, and Paddy Mills
Lakers give up Top 4 Protection on 2027 1rst, Unprotected 2029 1rst, Unprotected 2031 1rst, $7.2 Million cash, Jaylen Hood-Schifino, Christian Wood, Gabe Vincent, Jaxson Hayes and Cam Reddish.

3 stages because it's a 5 for 3 so Utah has to clear 2 roster spots by waiving the first two Lakers coming over

Simultaneous trade, with the following 3 steps

Step 1
Lakers trade Jaylen Hood-Schifino, 2029 UNPROTECTED 1rst, remove Top 4 protection on 2027 1rst + $2 Million cash for Walker Kessler. Utah immediately waives Jaylen Hood-Schifino.

Step 2
Lakers trade Christian Wood + $1.2 Million cash for Paddy Mills. Utah immediately waives Christian Wood.

Step 3
Lakers trade 2031 1rst (unprotected), Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes + $4 Million cash to Utah for Collin Sexton.

Logic
Kessler is better than your typical mid 1rst Round Pick. Top 4 Protection removal on 2027 picks required. Hood-Schifino is trash, Lakers cover his remaining salary.

Christian Wood is shipped out buy Utah waives him to create xtra Roster spot for overall 5 for 3 trade to work. Lakers pay Wood's remaining salary to Utah.

Sexton is a Top 20 PG in the NBA. He costs a 1rst. Vincent's salary is excessive this season and NEXT. He's worth about 3 Million, not 11 million + 11.5 Million. Excessive Salary somewhat compensated by Lakers. The rest made up by taking a flyer on Hayes and Reddish.

Yeah, no, we're not doing that.......

[Inigo Montoya]

Actually, it's a pretty good offer but I don't think the Lakers would ever offer that. All the players they're offering are a wash, they have no value for the Jazz. But two unprotected picks + removal of the 2027 protection is nothing to scoff at.

[Daddy 801]

If Kessler landed two Laker unprotected picks and the removal on the 27 id probably pull the trigger. This would also mean trading Lauri. It would be committing to a 4-5 year tank. Hard pill to swallow.

[Inigo Montoya]

If Kessler landed two Laker unprotected picks and the removal on the 27 id probably pull the trigger. This would also mean trading Lauri. It would be committing to a 4-5 year tank. Hard pill to swallow.

True. That's why I don't see a trade that makes sense. The trade proposed is imho an overpay by the Lakers and is a steep price indeed. On the other hand, the Jazz can't keep drafting players and then trading them for more draft picks down the road, essentially making them a farm team. If the Jazz trade Kessler for picks, they'd have to use them to find a player as good as he is, which would be a lateral move, and even for that they'd have to wait several years until the pick is even conveyed. At some point the Jazz need to find building blocks and build around them. If they keep trading away building blocks they'll never finish rebuilding, which is why it is tough for a Kessler trade to make sense unless it is in a package for a legit star or upgrade.

[Daddy 801]

If Kessler landed two Laker unprotected picks and the removal on the 27 id probably pull the trigger. This would also mean trading Lauri. It would be committing to a 4-5 year tank. Hard pill to swallow.

True. That's why I don't see a trade that makes sense. The trade proposed is imho an overpay by the Lakers and is a steep price indeed. On the other hand, the Jazz can't keep drafting players and then trading them for more draft picks down the road, essentially making them a farm team. If the Jazz trade Kessler for picks, they'd have to use them to find a player as good as he is, which would be a lateral move, and even for that they'd have to wait several years until the pick is even conveyed. At some point the Jazz need to find building blocks and build around them. If they keep trading away building blocks they'll never finish rebuilding, which is why it is tough for a Kessler trade to make sense unless it is in a package for a legit star or upgrade.

I agree with everything you said and why I have in every Kessler trade proposal said they were insane if they thought they could get Kessler for one unprotected pick. It would have to be two just because it’s a gamble we even replace his production with just one pick, and committing to a really, really long rebuild.

I think if the Jazz don’t get a top 1-3 pick this year things get weird and we might see the Jazz unload Lauri and Kessler. We have to get a tier 1 player before we get serious. God I hope we get Cooper though. He has looked awesome.

[Jammer]

Actually, it's a pretty good offer but I don't think the Lakers would ever offer that. All the players they're offering are a wash, they have no value for the Jazz. But two unprotected picks + removal of the 2027 protection is nothing to scoff at.

Another benefit for the Lakers is freeing up two roster spots (from 15 to 13) to add someone from the buyout market.

The biggest obstacles to this trade are not it's fairness, but:

Lakers have to decide they are not tanking from 2027 to 2029 because they will be competitive and possibly LeBron will stick around past next season.

The Buss Kids get a big % of Net Profits, with really no other source of income than their Laker job and Profit %:

Johnny Buss, Age 68, Former Laker Executive Vice President of Corporate Development. Owns 11% of Team.
Jim Buss, Age 65, was Laker Head of Basketball Operations until Jeannie fired him in 2017. Owns 11% of Team.
Jeannie Buss, Age 63, PRESIDENT OF LAKERS & CONTROLLING Governor (FINAL SAY ON EVERYTHING). Owns 11% of Team.
Janie Buss Drexel, Age 61. Director Of Lakers Charitable Services. Owns 11% of Team.
Joey Buss, Age 39. Los Angeles D-Fenders President & CEO (their G-League Team); also VP of R&D. Owns 11% of Team.
Jesse Buss, Age 36. Laker Director of Scouting and Assistant General Manager to Rob Pelinka. Owns 11% of Team.

Todd Boehly and Mark Walter acquired about 26.5% in 2021 (separate from the Buss Trust which holds 66%)
Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong owns 4.5%
Ed Roski Jr. owns 3%
It's been rumored for years that Johnny Buss and Jim Buss want to sell off part of their ownership for CASH but need 2 more of their siblings to agree to becoming less than majority owners as a group.

[SlimShady83]

Rui, Knecht, JHS and I think I have Hayes as well and 2 unprotected FRPs for Kessler/Sexton

Edit: Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another star will come ... If you build It, they will come.

[Inigo Montoya]

Actually, it's a pretty good offer but I don't think the Lakers would ever offer that. All the players they're offering are a wash, they have no value for the Jazz. But two unprotected picks + removal of the 2027 protection is nothing to scoff at.

Another benefit for the Lakers is freeing up two roster spots (from 15 to 13) to add someone from the buyout market.

The biggest obstacles to this trade are not it's fairness, but:

Lakers have to decide they are not tanking from 2027 to 2029 because they will be competitive and possibly LeBron will stick around past next season.

The Buss Kids get a big % of Net Profits, with really no other source of income than their Laker job and Profit %:

Johnny Buss, Age 68, Former Laker Executive Vice President of Corporate Development. Owns 11% of Team.
Jim Buss, Age 65, was Laker Head of Basketball Operations until Jeannie fired him in 2017. Owns 11% of Team.
Jeannie Buss, Age 63, PRESIDENT OF LAKERS & CONTROLLING Governor (FINAL SAY ON EVERYTHING). Owns 11% of Team.
Janie Buss Drexel, Age 61. Director Of Lakers Charitable Services. Owns 11% of Team.
Joey Buss, Age 39. Los Angeles D-Fenders President & CEO (their G-League Team); also VP of R&D. Owns 11% of Team.
Jesse Buss, Age 36. Laker Director of Scouting and Assistant General Manager to Rob Pelinka. Owns 11% of Team.

Todd Boehly and Mark Walter acquired about 26.5% in 2021 (separate from the Buss Trust which holds 66%)
Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong owns 4.5%
Ed Roski Jr. owns 3%
It's been rumored for years that Johnny Buss and Jim Buss want to sell off part of their ownership for CASH but need 2 more of their siblings to agree to becoming less than majority owners as a group.

You are looking at it only from the Lakers' perspective. There are also obstacles from the Jazz's perspective that aren't related to the value they get in the trade. By trading Kessler they will be prolonging their rebuild significantly and they'll have to use their picks to replace him, which would be a lateral move.

[HadAnEffectHere]

The rebuild is already going to take five more years at least and they'll probably move Kessler at some point in that time period.

[Fido]

https://clutchpoints.com/sources-kings-jazz-serious-trade-talks-john-collins
According to their sources, the Kings and Jazz had talked about doing this deal:

To Kings:
John Collins ($26.6m player option for 2024-25)

To Jazz:
Kevin Huerter ($18m for 2024-25)
Trey Lyles (expiring deal)
Protected 1st round pick
2nd round pick

They aren't sure if this would pick back up after being placed on hold earlier this season. It wouldn't hurt the Jazz long-term plan as Huerter would be cheaper than keeping Collins (assuming his PO was picked up). I would think Lyles would get flipped or waived.

[AingesBurner]

The rebuild is already going to take five more years at least and they'll probably move Kessler at some point in that time period.

I don’t think so. The latest trade proves that.