NBA 2017 Draft Prospects Thread

Ya, and he's testing great on everything else right now too.

Dude just might work himself out of our range. He'll interview really well too. I think the Bulls at 16, the Bucks at 17, the Thunder at 21 and the Nets at 22 are all teams that could show significant interest in him.

KqWIN · Post #548 » by **KqWIN** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:39 pm

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Stop it Frank. Stop it! We already gave you a guarantee! Just pull out of the combine, already.

I would have been much happier if he mailed it in for a 30 inch vertical :noway:

He's rising too fast now.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #549 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:09 am

KqWIN wrote:
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Stop it Frank. Stop it! We already gave you a guarantee! Just pull out of the combine, already.

I would have been much happier if he mailed it in for a 30 inch vertical He's rising too fast now.

I have him up to 20 on my big board after his combine showing.

KDBG · Post #550 » by **KDBG** » Sat May 13, 2017 2:26 pm

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Stop it Frank. Stop it! We already gave you a guarantee! Just pull out of the combine, already.

I know you don't have much faith in Exum, and I still do. BUT, if you forget the draft, and I had to have one young prospect backing up our starter (hopefully Hill or someone on his level), and had to pick between Jackson and Exum, I would pick Jackson in a heartbeat. He has THAT much potential.

I know the Jazz won't (knock on wood) mess this one up. They are usually in on our local guys earlier than everyone else. They messed up with Lillard by not tanking that useless 11-12 year. I'm not saying trade all of our picks to move up for Jackson, but we may very likely have to trade up into the mid first round.

stitches · Post #551 » by **stitches** » Sat May 13, 2017 6:34 pm

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sipclip · Post #552 » by **sipclip** » Sat May 13, 2017 10:56 pm

I was hoping Bell would measure out taller and longer but that hasn't stopped him from being a force defensively and I think that will translate to the nba.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #553 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:10 am

Serious question, why the love for Jordan Bell? Undersized and can't shoot from range- not a recipe for success as a PF in the modern NBA.

I really hope that the Jazz take a good look at Poythress. It has been over two years now since his ACL injury, and players often start to play to form about that time forward (or never). Poythress is the same size as Bell and while he might not be the defender that Bell is, he is adequate and can shoot beyond the arc at a good clip (over 40% in the NBDL this past season). He had a nice end of the season with the 76ers. I think that he is finally coming into what people hope he would be out of college and probably could be easily had for cheap. I would be very willing to trade Lyles and take on Poythress in his place as a combo forward.

KqWIN · Post #554 » by **KqWIN** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:39 am

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Serious question, why the love for Jordan Bell? Undersized and can't shoot from range- not a recipe for success as a PF in the modern NBA.

I really hope that the Jazz take a good look at Poythress. It has been over two years now since his ACL injury, and players often start to play to form about that time forward (or never). Poythress is the same size as Bell and while he might not be the defender that Bell is, he is adequate and can shoot beyond the arc at a good clip (over 40% in the NBDL this past season). He had a nice end of the season with the 76ers. I think that he is finally coming into what people hope he would be out of college and probably could be easily had for cheap. I would be very willing to trade Lyles and take on Poythress in his place as a combo forward.

"Love" is relative. Bell is seen as a second round prospect and there isn't a second round prospect that you can't pick apart. His defense is obviously what people love about him. The amount of plays he makes on that end is impressive, he is everywhere. He can be like Draymond or Millsap as a defender. Guys who can move their feet and protect the rim are so valuable.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #555 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sun May 14, 2017 5:38 am

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Serious question, why the love for Jordan Bell? Undersized and can't shoot from range- not a recipe for success as a PF in the modern NBA.

People said the same things about Draymond Green.

In other news, the post draft combine mock draft on DraftExpress now has the Jazz taking Jeanne with the 24th pick...

If that actually happens, I'll be furious. I bet we could get him in the second round if we really liked him all that much. I just keep feeling like he gets connected to the Jazz because he's french, shares the same agent with Gobert and is tall and has long arms like Gobert. But he's NOTHING like Gobert! Even fans are talking about him being "the next Gobert"... he's not going to be! Not even close.

KqWIN · Post #556 » by **KqWIN** » Sun May 14, 2017 5:52 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Serious question, why the love for Jordan Bell? Undersized and can't shoot from range- not a recipe for success as a PF in the modern NBA.

People said the same things about Draymond Green.

In other news, the post draft combine mock draft on DraftExpress now has the Jazz taking Jeanne with the 24th pick...

If that actually happens, I'll be furious. I bet we could get him in the second round if we really liked him all that much. I just keep feeling like he gets connected to the Jazz because he's french, shares the same agent with Gobert and is tall and has long arms like Gobert. But he's NOTHING like Gobert! Even fans are talking about him being "the next Gobert"... he's not going to be! Not even close.

Pretty sure that DX doesn't take teams into account until right before the draft. That's how it's been in the past.

Hoops Addict · Post #557 » by **Hoops Addict** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:37 pm

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/frank-jackson

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Frank-Jackson-89588/

Frank Jackson out of Duke, who just recently signed with an agent, posted impressive overall numbers in the athletic testing portion of the Combine. Jackson finished first overall in the shuttle run (2.7 seconds), second overall in the max vertical leap (42), third overall in the standing vertical leap (35.5) and fifth overall in the three-quarter court sprint (3.14 seconds). Despite coming off a very inconsistent freshman season, Jackson opted to officially keep his name in the draft, and had a very good first half in Day One before electing to sit out Day Two of the Combine. Oregon's Jordan Bell shined in the 5 on 5 portion on day 1 of the Combine, flying around on defense while also showing a budding offensive skill set. He continued to stand out in the athletic testing, particularly in the lane agility and shuttle run drills, both of which are typically dominated by guards. His shuttle run time of 2.83 was fourth overall, just six tenths of a second behind the top score held by Frank Jackson. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2017-nba-combine-athletic-testing-analysis-5930/ ©DraftExpress

Jackson, who has yet to decide whether he'll sign with an agent, was able to get to the rim at will by way of his powerful explosiveness and strength (202 pounds) while sitting down in a stance and competing on the defensive end. Playing mostly on the ball, Jackson is an aggressive score-first combo guard who should be able to fill it up at all three levels with NBA spacing (even though he missed both of his triples on Thursday). Jackson's decision making, point guard skills and ability to shift gears could still use some polish, but he helped himself on Thursday and has the talent to potentially be on the fringe of the first round if he decides to stay in the draft. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Frank-Jackson-89588/ ©DraftExpress

Hoops Addict · Post #558 » by **Hoops Addict** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:39 pm

Jackson

-Has done a really nice job of filling out his frame over the years. Up to 208 pounds, nine pounds more than when he was measured at USA basketball five months ago. -Solid length relative to his height 6' 6.75 wingspan. -Deep range on his jumper. Good elevation. The ball comes out cleanly. Best off of the catch but can rise up off the dribble as well. -Explosive leaper off of two feet in space. -Solid first step. Capable of getting into the paint out of pick and roll situations. Doesn't shy away from contact around the rim. -Not overly advanced with the ball but isn't sloppy with it. -Capable passer who can drive and kick or dish. -Strong base. Can get into a deep stance and pressure the ball. WEAKNESSES -Doesn't have great size for a two guard and doesn't quite have the playmaking skills of a combo. -Not always the most willing passer. Scoring mentality. Gets tunnel vision on the move. Hasn't shown that he can run a team consistently. -Settles for deep, contested jumpers early in the clock. -Not as explosive off of one foot. Isn't always able to use his leaping ability in the half court. -Can continue to improve his ability to play at different speeds and change directions. -Doesn't always dig in defensively. Can get deep into a stance but lacks versatility on that end of the floor due to his average tools. OUTLOOK Jackson can really score and he showed that throughout the week of practices, with most of his buckets revolving around his jumper. While the 17-year-old should be able to get buckets in the ACC early and often, it's his growth as a playmaker that will ultimately determine his upside. Duke has had success without a pure point guard in the past, so it shouldn't be all that difficult for Jackson to fill a role as a scoring guard in Durham. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Frank-Jackson-89588/ ©DraftExpress

Hoops Addict · Post #559 » by **Hoops Addict** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:46 pm

Diallo

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Hamidou-Diallo-90256/

To nobody's surprise, Hamidou Diallo impressed in the athletic testing portion of the Combine, posting the highest max vertical leap at 44.5. That number would be the highest mark for any drafted player, - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2017-nba-combine-athletic-testing-analysis-5930/ ©DraftExpress

NBA Comparison: Shabazz Muhammad
Strengths: A 6’5 incredibly explosive scoring guard loaded with natural talent … Possesses great length with a 6’10 wingspan … Great speed and vertical leap. Quick off the ground … Good offensive player in transition as well as the half court. Handles the ball pretty well, an area of his game that is improving ... Can create space and offense for himself. Gets to the rim with a quick first step ... Reacts well to the defense as well as help defenders, drives to the basket are not predetermined. Good ambidexterity … Good body control. Crashes offensive boards and can tip-slam rebounds out of his area … Great competitor. Plays with high energy, aggression, and confidence ... Attacks the defense fearlessly. Isn’t afraid of contact and draws a lot of fouls … Defends well. Has the tools, athleticism, and tenacity to be a lockdown on ball defender. Great lateral quickness ... Harasses opposing ball handlers ... Plays passing lanes. Quick to the ball. Blocks shots well for a guard … Also rebounds very well for a guard …

Weaknesses: Can create jump shots but struggles to connect with consistency ... Needs to improve in all areas as a shooter; free throws, midrange, and three point. Shot 16.7% from three over the Nike EYBL ... Still has room to tighten up his ball handling ability ... Can be reckless taking the ball to the basket ... Relies upon outjumping defenders at the rim … Can improve his post-game when matched up with smaller guards but does show confidence and willingness to take defenders into the post … Although he can find opportunities to find alley-oops and gaps when cutting backdoor, he can improve moving without the ball especially on the perimeter. Relies on his first step to beat his man after he has the ball … Has room to add upper body strength … Shows some playmaking ability but is strictly a scoring guard at this stage, doesn’t have the combo guard skills yet. Finished with 33 assists to 41 turnovers over the Nike EYBL …

Outlook: Diallo may be the top athlete in high school basketball. His ball skills aren’t quite up to par with his natural ability yet but with some work and time, he can develop into a big time player at the highest levels.

Notes: Measued 6'3.75 without shoes, 6'10.5 wingspan, 179 lbs and a 8'4.5 standing reach in the summer of 2015 ...

Now listed at going at #20
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/hamidou-diallo

Cannot shoot well, but likely will be very good defender.

Catchall · Post #560 » by **Catchall** » Mon May 15, 2017 6:11 am

I want too many players. I still want Kurucs at 24. If Bam Adebayo is somehow still on the board at 24, I can't imagine we'd pass on him. (He should be gone, so this shouldn't be an issue.) I like Frank Jackson, and I'm hoping he'll make it to 30, but I also want DJ Wilson. Call me greedy.

Still like Bolden or Oliver at 42.