NBA 2017 Draft Prospects Thread

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Giannis's brother Alex Antetokounmpo is 6'5 at 15 years old. He has a 7'2 wingspan.

Has anybody watched him play?

[KqWIN]

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The striking thing is just how non-explosive he looks for such an athletic tester. He does have skill though.

[KqWIN]

The striking thing is just how non-explosive he looks for such an athletic tester. He does have skill though.

Maybe you would expect more dunks from him, but I'm not worried about his explosiveness. He doesn't get up as quickly as DSJ, that's for sure.

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The striking thing is just how non-explosive he looks for such an athletic tester. He does have skill though.

Maybe you would expect more dunks from him, but I'm not worried about his explosiveness. He doesn't get up as quickly as DSJ, that's for sure.

Damn, I want DSJ so much on the Jazz... Would be so much fun.

[SoCalJazzFan]

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Giannis's brother Alex Antetokounmpo is 6'5 at 15 years old. He has a 7'2 wingspan.

Has anybody watched him play?

If I recall correctly, Giannas in the past indicated that his younger brother might be the best player (edit in the family). Not sure if this is him, but scary thought.

[SoCalJazzFan]

The striking thing is just how non-explosive he looks for such an athletic tester. He does have skill though.

Maybe you would expect more dunks from him, but I'm not worried about his explosiveness. He doesn't get up as quickly as DSJ, that's for sure.

Damn, I want DSJ so much on the Jazz... Would be so much fun.

He would be a fun player, but I have no idea how he would fit into Quinn's system.

[SoCalJazzFan]

So, I stayed up late last night and over lunch took a look at other videos of stretch 4s, and I need someone to talk me off the ledge of why the Jazz shouldn't use their #30 pick, if necessary, to grab Bolden. I can only find highlight vids of him, and I also found a scout write up (could have been a journalist with pretty good knowledge) of a game he watched Bolden play in this year. All very positive to me. In fact, I have no idea why he is mid-second round. At the moment, my thought is that if he had stayed at UCLA this past season and Alford played him at PF, instead of C, he could be top 20, perhaps even a lottery pick.

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So, I stayed up late last night and over lunch took a look at other videos of stretch 4s, and I need someone to talk me off the ledge of why the Jazz shouldn't use their #30 pick, if necessary, to grab Bolden. I can only find highlight vids of him, and I also found a scout write up (could have been a journalist with pretty good knowledge) of a game he watched Bolden play in this year. All very positive to me. In fact, I have no idea why he is mid-second round. At the moment, my thought is that if he had stayed at UCLA this past season and Alford played him at PF, instead of C, he could be top 20, perhaps even a lottery pick.

I don't think there is anything not to love about him at 30 other than we have stupid mock drafts in the back of our head telling us that it would be a reach. If he stays at UCLA and gets a chance to play with Ball and Leaf then he probably is a consensus top 20 pick.

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[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

So, I stayed up late last night and over lunch took a look at other videos of stretch 4s, and I need someone to talk me off the ledge of why the Jazz shouldn't use their #30 pick, if necessary, to grab Bolden. I can only find highlight vids of him, and I also found a scout write up (could have been a journalist with pretty good knowledge) of a game he watched Bolden play in this year. All very positive to me. In fact, I have no idea why he is mid-second round. At the moment, my thought is that if he had stayed at UCLA this past season and Alford played him at PF, instead of C, he could be top 20, perhaps even a lottery pick.

I don't think there is anything not to love about him at 30 other than we have stupid mock drafts in the back of our head telling us that it would be a reach. If he stays at UCLA and gets a chance to play with Ball and Leaf then he probably is a consensus top 20 pick.

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Ya, this is a pretty good breakdown of it. I wouldn't be opposed to him at 30, I'd be totally fine with it.

From what I've heard around the rumor mill is that he's had some attitude problems that may be hurting his stock. But I honestly have zero idea if that's true or not. I think all the other things you'd look for in a good prospect are there.

I actually had him near the 30th pick on the big board, but then admittedly got into some of the group think of all the mocks and have slowly dropped him down my board. I should probably go re-watch him again.

Right now I have him somewhere in the 38 to 45 range but that's probably too low.

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Bolden is underrated right now because while other players are showing off at the Combine and in workouts, Bolden somewhere in Serbia. While we're on the topic, both Rodions Kurucs and Andjez Pasecniks are underrated as well. They're just not on the radar because they're overseas.

I would absolutely take Bolden at 30 and would consider him at 24 as well, depending on how the chips fall. I'll be surprised if he falls past 34 or 35 when it's said and done.

There really is no consensus in this draft after #20 or so.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Did some more digging on the off-court rumors about Bolden. Here's what I found...

Apparently Bolden is quite a party animal, his teammates don't like him very much and he had some run-ins with the coaches about practicing/training a couple different times. So there's definitely some off-court concerns there that have caused him to drop down draft boards.

[Daddy 801]

Dig some more digging on the off-court rumors about Bolden. Here's what I found...

Apparently Bolden is quite a party animal, his teammates don't like him very much and he had some run-ins with the coaches about practicing/training a couple different times. So there's definitely some off-court concerns there that have caused him to drop down draft boards.

Sounds like my type of guy. The jazz should steer clear of him.

[KqWIN]

Bolden is underrated right now because while other players are showing off at the Combine and in workouts, Bolden somewhere in Serbia. While we're on the topic, both Rodions Kurucs and Andjez Pasecniks are underrated as well. They're just not on the radar because they're overseas.

I would absolutely take Bolden at 30 and would consider him at 24 as well, depending on how the chips fall. I'll be surprised if he falls past 34 or 35 when it's said and done.

There really is no consensus in this draft after #20 or so.

I don't know if I believe in that. For a lot of guys, the best place to be is nowhere to be found. Mystery = potential...somehow. The more you see a guy, the more you can pick him apart.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Updated big board with tiers:

---------------------------------------Tier 1
1: Markelle Fultz
---------------------------------------Tier 2
2: Josh Jackson
3: De’Aaron Fox
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4: Lauri Markkanen
5: Jonathan Isaac
6: Jayson Tatum
7: Frank Ntlikina
8: Dennis Smith
9: Lonzo Ball
10: Malik Monk
---------------------------------------Tier 4
11: OG Anunoby
12: Justin Jackson (UNC)
13: Donovan Mitchell
14: John Collins
15: Harry Giles
16: Zach Collins
17: Jarrett Allen
18: Justin Patton
19: Frank Jackson
20: Rodions Kurcus
21: TJ Leaf
22: Anzejs Pasecniks
23: Ike Anigbogu
-------------------------------------Tier 5
*24: Jawun Evans
25: Isaiah Hartenstein
26: Terrance Ferguson
27: DJ Wilson
28: Bam Edebayo
29: Ivan Rabb
*30: Kyle Kuzma

31: Jordan Bell
32: Mathias Lessort
33: Thomas Bryant
34: Caleb Swanigan
35: Josh Hart
36: Jonathan Jeanne
37: Derrick White
38: Semi Ojeleye
39: Jonah Bolden
40: Tyler Lydon
-------------------------------------Tier 6
41: Jonathan Motley
*42: Luke Kennard
43: Dillon Brooks
44: Jaron Blossomgame
45: Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot
46: Sindarius Thornwell
47: Wesley Iwundu
48: Cameron Oliver
49: PJ Dozier
50: Frank Mason III
51: LJ Peak
52: Malcolm Hill
53: Damyean Dotson
-----------------------------------Tier 7
54: Devin Robinson
*55: Edmond Sumner
56: Tony Bradley
57: Monte Morris
58: Kostja Mushidi
59: Alec Peters
60: Kennedy Meeks

Notable names not included (in no particular order):
Tyler Dorsey
Moses Kingsley
Nigel Hayes
Dwayne Bacon
Peter Jok
Kobi Simmons
Melo Trimble
Luke Kornet
Eric Mika
Chris Boucher

If Frank Jackson is off the board at 24 and no one has dropped, I think the Jazz should look to trade back. I would call up Orlando and ask them about 33 and 35. I think that tier 5 range has a lot of great prospects that would be good fits on our team, and we'd get the best value by trading back, especially where we could pick up a couple bigs out of the group of Bell, Lessort, Swanigan, Thomas and Jeanne. I also think that Josh Hart would be an incredibly good fit on our team.

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A lot of names listed with less game than burton. I'm not walking anyone away from bolden... you could do a lot worse at 30.

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A few comments/opinions:

** Jonathan Jeanne's potential is as high as anyone outside the top 9 or 10. He's probably going to go mid-first round. He has to be Tier 4, imo.

** Luke Kennard is underrated on your big board. I think he'll be an Evan Fournier-caliber player at a minimum and his ceiling is higher. I think he's Tier 4.

** Bam Adebayo should be a tier higher due to his physical profile, defense and rebounding potential. Plus he can shoot. He's Tier 4.

** I'd drop Ike Anigbogu to Tier 5. He's only 6'10", he's slow and his college production was minimal at best.

** I'm withholding judgement on UNC's Justin Jackson, but might otherwise drop him a tier.

[pickIBL]

Agree on Jeanne. He's a real freak of nature... in a good way of course

[SoCalJazzFan]

Did some more digging on the off-court rumors about Bolden. Here's what I found...

Apparently Bolden is quite a party animal, his teammates don't like him very much and he had some run-ins with the coaches about practicing/training a couple different times. So there's definitely some off-court concerns there that have caused him to drop down draft boards.

Well, that's a bummer as if that is the case the Jazz won't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Thanks for passing it along.

[KqWIN]

Problem with Jeanne is that he's 7'2 and shoots <50% from the field. More like Manute Bol than Rudy Gobert.