Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018

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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#781 » by Daddy 801 » Thu Jun 7, 2018 6:20 pm

KqWIN wrote:So here's how this summer goes down.

LeBron opts in under the condition that he gets traded to Boston for Gordon Hayward. If LeBron and Kyrie are still cool they roll with it. If not, they trade Kyrie to SAS for Kawhi.

I'd welcome our new overlords in Boston as Hayward melts in basketball purgatory.


It's to Boston or Houston. I have thought Houston for years, but I have started to think how good he could be in Boston. This year was to show he was still the best, now he wants to cruise to titles...at least that's my guess. The only scenario I see LA in the mix is if he truly doesn't care about winning anymore. And that would not be good for the league.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#782 » by AingesBurner » Thu Jun 7, 2018 6:43 pm

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KqWIN wrote:So here's how this summer goes down.

LeBron opts in under the condition that he gets traded to Boston for Gordon Hayward. If LeBron and Kyrie are still cool they roll with it. If not, they trade Kyrie to SAS for Kawhi.

I'd welcome our new overlords in Boston as Hayward melts in basketball purgatory.


It's to Boston or Houston. I have thought Houston for years, but I have started to think how good he could be in Boston. This year was to show he was still the best, now he wants to cruise to titles...at least that's my guess. The only scenario I see LA in the mix is if he truly doesn't care about winning anymore. And that would not be good for the league.


If he stopped caring about winning then he knows he can’t be Golden State and Silver better realize parity matters.


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Post#783 » by sipclip » Sat Jun 9, 2018 2:43 pm

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KqWIN wrote:So here's how this summer goes down.

LeBron opts in under the condition that he gets traded to Boston for Gordon Hayward. If LeBron and Kyrie are still cool they roll with it. If not, they trade Kyrie to SAS for Kawhi.

I'd welcome our new overlords in Boston as Hayward melts in basketball purgatory.


It's to Boston or Houston. I have thought Houston for years, but I have started to think how good he could be in Boston. This year was to show he was still the best, now he wants to cruise to titles...at least that's my guess. The only scenario I see LA in the mix is if he truly doesn't care about winning anymore. And that would not be good for the league.
David James was mentioning on the radio the other day that if he goes to LA it shows he doesn't care about winning and I don't think that could be further from the truth. In fact I feel it is the opposite. Going to LA would give him a sustained chance to beat the warriors and there roster is great to go against them. Especially if Paul Goerge goes there as well. No one can tell me that a starting lineup of Ball, Paul George, Ingram, Kuzma and LeBron isn't the perfect fit to compete against the warriors. That lineup is long as hell and can switch on everything without the warriors creating a massive mismatch and offensively the spacing would be amazing. Give me that lineup over LeBron with the rockets any day.

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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#784 » by Daddy 801 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 2:45 pm

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KqWIN wrote:So here's how this summer goes down.

LeBron opts in under the condition that he gets traded to Boston for Gordon Hayward. If LeBron and Kyrie are still cool they roll with it. If not, they trade Kyrie to SAS for Kawhi.

I'd welcome our new overlords in Boston as Hayward melts in basketball purgatory.


It's to Boston or Houston. I have thought Houston for years, but I have started to think how good he could be in Boston. This year was to show he was still the best, now he wants to cruise to titles...at least that's my guess. The only scenario I see LA in the mix is if he truly doesn't care about winning anymore. And that would not be good for the league.
David James was mentioning on the radio the other day that if he goes to LA it shows he doesn't care about winning and I don't think that could be further from the truth. In fact I feel it is the opposite. Going to LA would give him a sustained chance to beat the warriors and there roster is great to go against them. Especially if Paul Goerge goes there as well. No one can tell me that a starting lineup of Ball, Paul George, Ingram, Kuzma and LeBron isn't the perfect fit to compete against the warriors. That lineup is long as hell and can switch on everything without the warriors creating a massive mismatch and offensively the spacing would be amazing. Give me that lineup over LeBron with the rockets any day.

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I’d take LeBron on the Rockets or Boston over that group in LA. But that’s a decent squad as well.


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Post#785 » by wco81 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 11:18 pm

sipclip wrote:David James was mentioning on the radio the other day that if he goes to LA it shows he doesn't care about winning and I don't think that could be further from the truth. In fact I feel it is the opposite. Going to LA would give him a sustained chance to beat the warriors and there roster is great to go against them. Especially if Paul Goerge goes there as well. No one can tell me that a starting lineup of Ball, Paul George, Ingram, Kuzma and LeBron isn't the perfect fit to compete against the warriors. That lineup is long as hell and can switch on everything without the warriors creating a massive mismatch and offensively the spacing would be amazing. Give me that lineup over LeBron with the rockets any day.

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Ball, Ingram and Kuzma are promising young players but they're not really knock-down shooters.

Lakers were not one of the best 3-point shooting teams and actually their leader, at least with number of attempts accounted for, was probably KCP, whom they're probably not going to re-sign.

Now these young players may all improve, if they're standing around and catching and shooting while Lebron is dominating the ball.

I don't know if the Lakers would try to play the same way as the Cavs if Lebron went there. With Walton in charge, they're trying to emulate the Warriors a bit with movement and pace.

But if Lebron wants to dominate the ball, that means the other players will see their numbers go down and players like Kuzma and Ingram may be little more than younger, more athletic Kyle Korvers.

The Cavs actually have good outside shooting. Lebron made sure of that. Just that those shooters, including Frye when he was there, could only shoot, not defend that well.

Young Lakers would defend better but they may or may not be better shooters.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#786 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 9, 2018 11:21 pm

I don’t think LeBron goes the Lakers if Lonzo is there.


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Post#787 » by sipclip » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:15 am

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sipclip wrote:David James was mentioning on the radio the other day that if he goes to LA it shows he doesn't care about winning and I don't think that could be further from the truth. In fact I feel it is the opposite. Going to LA would give him a sustained chance to beat the warriors and there roster is great to go against them. Especially if Paul Goerge goes there as well. No one can tell me that a starting lineup of Ball, Paul George, Ingram, Kuzma and LeBron isn't the perfect fit to compete against the warriors. That lineup is long as hell and can switch on everything without the warriors creating a massive mismatch and offensively the spacing would be amazing. Give me that lineup over LeBron with the rockets any day.

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Ball, Ingram and Kuzma are promising young players but they're not really knock-down shooters.

Lakers were not one of the best 3-point shooting teams and actually their leader, at least with number of attempts accounted for, was probably KCP, whom they're probably not going to re-sign.

Now these young players may all improve, if they're standing around and catching and shooting while Lebron is dominating the ball.

I don't know if the Lakers would try to play the same way as the Cavs if Lebron went there. With Walton in charge, they're trying to emulate the Warriors a bit with movement and pace.

But if Lebron wants to dominate the ball, that means the other players will see their numbers go down and players like Kuzma and Ingram may be little more than younger, more athletic Kyle Korvers.

The Cavs actually have good outside shooting. Lebron made sure of that. Just that those shooters, including Frye when he was there, could only shoot, not defend that well.

Young Lakers would defend better but they may or may not be better shooters.
They don't have to be knockdown shooters. They just need to be in that 38-40% range which I think Ingram and Kuzma are more than capable of doing since most would be spot up 3's. Lonzo is likely to be an inconsistent shooter but he still needs to be guarded out there and he does everything else well. It sucks that Lavar is such a punk because I actually love Lonzo's game and think he is going to end up being a star in this league. A walking triple double but more in the Kidd mode than Westbrook.

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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#788 » by wco81 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:23 am

Yes I definitely think they're capable, especially Kuzma, who has a good shot.

If Ingram develops into a consistent scoring option, like Kyrie, he'd be a good complement to Lebron as well.

Lonzo won't get nearly as many triple doubles unless Lebron is willing to work more off ball, like getting it on the block or the wing. But while Lebron isn't as guilty as Westbrook of chasing stats for the sake of stats, he is closing in on all-time records in a lot of categories so I don't think he'd want to give up those numbers or the touches to get those numbers.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#789 » by MTJazzv3 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:33 am

Daddy 801 wrote:I’d take LeBron on the Rockets or Boston over that group in LA. But that’s a decent squad as well.
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If LeBron wants to take down the Warriors the "easier way" he goes to Boston and the EC regular schedule. LeBron, Kyrie, Tatum, Horford, Brown breezes to the Finals with little wear and tear. If LeBron goes to Houston, yeah, a good shot for sure, but the WC is still the bloodbath path in the NBA. Plus Houston is a single injury (Harden or Paul) away from being out of contention. I'd go Celtics all day long if I were him - they took CLE to 7 games without really missing Kyrie or Hayward. In other words, they lost two "franchise players" for the playoffs and were within a game of the finals. So, yeah.

Who ever could of guessed that Hayward would become a passing thought in terms of future role with the Celtics after 1 game, but it happened.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#790 » by AingesBurner » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:15 am

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Daddy 801 wrote:I’d take LeBron on the Rockets or Boston over that group in LA. But that’s a decent squad as well.
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If LeBron wants to take down the Warriors the "easier way" he goes to Boston and the EC regular schedule. LeBron, Kyrie, Tatum, Horford, Brown breezes to the Finals with little wear and tear. If LeBron goes to Houston, yeah, a good shot for sure, but the WC is still the bloodbath path in the NBA. Plus Houston is a single injury (Harden or Paul) away from being out of contention. I'd go Celtics all day long if I were him - they took CLE to 7 games without really missing Kyrie or Hayward. In other words, they lost two "franchise players" for the playoffs and were within a game of the finals. So, yeah.

Who ever could of guessed that Hayward would become a passing thought in terms of future role with the Celtics after 1 game, but it happened.


Wouldn’t that be bananas?


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Post#791 » by AingesBurner » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:15 am

Also I always said that Hayward was Mike Miller 2.0, think I was right.


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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#792 » by Daddy 801 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:49 am

MTJazzv3 wrote:
Daddy 801 wrote:I’d take LeBron on the Rockets or Boston over that group in LA. But that’s a decent squad as well.
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If LeBron wants to take down the Warriors the "easier way" he goes to Boston and the EC regular schedule. LeBron, Kyrie, Tatum, Horford, Brown breezes to the Finals with little wear and tear. If LeBron goes to Houston, yeah, a good shot for sure, but the WC is still the bloodbath path in the NBA. Plus Houston is a single injury (Harden or Paul) away from being out of contention. I'd go Celtics all day long if I were him - they took CLE to 7 games without really missing Kyrie or Hayward. In other words, they lost two "franchise players" for the playoffs and were within a game of the finals. So, yeah.

Who ever could of guessed that Hayward would become a passing thought in terms of future role with the Celtics after 1 game, but it happened.


I don’t disagree. But Houston has its appeal as well.


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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#793 » by Daddy 801 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:49 am

GobertReport wrote:Also I always said that Hayward was Mike Miller 2.0, think I was right.


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Yeah, I don’t know about that.


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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#794 » by Denizfeital » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:53 am

GobertReport wrote:I don’t think LeBron goes the Lakers if Lonzo is there.


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How funny it would be if Lebron goes to The Lakers and Lonzo goes to The Cavs? :lol: :lol:

For the fun perspective, I would love to see that.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#795 » by AingesBurner » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:15 am

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GobertReport wrote:I don’t think LeBron goes the Lakers if Lonzo is there.


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How funny it would be if Lebron goes to The Lakers and Lonzo goes to The Cavs? :lol: :lol:

For the fun perspective, I would love to see that.


Oh it could happen and I would die, Lavar in Cleveland would be great.


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Post#800 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:44 pm

There might be cracks forming in the GSW dynasty. Whereas Klay was reported to be considering extending at a team friendly deal a few weeks ago, he has backed off of that position and is waiting until next year to renegotiate his contract. Also, Draymond has indicated that he is not willing to sign a team friendly deal when his contract is up, but will seek a supermax. In the meantime, the Warriors have indicated that they will give Durant whatever he asks for. I could see Klay and Draymond looking to get paid after winning 4 of the last 5 championships as a priority over winning another championship or two, and the Warriors not being willing to. I don't see how there is any way that the owner can pay all of these guys max/supermax contracts, still field a competitive team and not go broke.

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