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Post#81 » by pickIBL » Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:56 am

Danny can make himself... and me look good.

Sign the dancing bear. I knew he'd be good :)
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Post#82 » by FJS » Mon Aug 12, 2024 7:45 pm

Every day me not paying league pass this season is improving.

I cannot pay to watch this bunch of players.

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Post#83 » by SoCalJazzFan » Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:43 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Signing Svi and Eubanks instead of gambling on someone in the G-League or overseas feels like a waste. We know these guys are 0s.

I think that these signings could go to player development, while not impacting the ability to tank any more than the current team roster. They are probably also good locker room guys.

Svi isn't great, but he isn't horrible, and perhaps realizes that this is his last chance. He has been in the league and with several teams for a few years now. He will practice and play hard, and could be a good influence on the newbies.

Similarly, Eubanks might be a guy that can push Kessler, and perhaps teach him some aspects of a big man game that Kessler needs to improve upon.

The newbies will need to earn their spots in the lineups, and not merely have it given to them.
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Post#84 » by red4hf » Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:01 pm

FJS wrote:Every day me not paying league pass this season is improving.

I cannot pay to watch this bunch of players.

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I'm actually looking forward to seeing the rookies play....... Hopefully, they'll get too.......
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Post#85 » by FJS » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:34 pm

red4hf wrote:
FJS wrote:Every day me not paying league pass this season is improving.

I cannot pay to watch this bunch of players.

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I'm actually looking forward to seeing the rookies play....... Hopefully, they'll get too.......
To watch Keyonte, brice and Taylor was something outstanding last year...

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Re: Utah Jazz roster business 

Post#86 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:38 pm

Looks like you guys just signed Babacar Sane to a training camp deal. He's interesting. I watched him play for a season with the Ignite. He's a prototypical super athletic, aggressive, non-skilled player. They often don't pan out, but sometimes with the proper tutelage they learn how to play basketball and can be a lot of fun. Last year, Sidy Cissoko and Mojave King got drafted from the Ignite, and I liked Sane more than either of those guys. He's a long shot, but something fun to keep an eye on in training camp.
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Post#87 » by Fido » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:44 pm

More signings in:
- Kyle Filipowski signed a 4 year deal that looks like one that would be given a 1st round pick. The money is more than 2nd rounders, is guaranteed for the first 2 years, then unguaranteed for 3rd year, and a team option on year 4.
- Oscar Tshiebwe signed a 2-way deal after the Jazz waived Taevion Kinsey. Tshiebwe was on a 2-way deal last year with the Pacers and won NBA G League Rookie of the Year while setting a new G League record by averaging 16 rebounds per game.
- Babacar Sane has been signed to a non-guaranteed training camp deal. He played for the G League Ignite the past 2 seasons after coming out of the NBA Academy Africa program.

This sets the training camp roster at 18 of the 20 available spots.
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Post#88 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:03 pm

Kyle Filipowski, Jazz Sign Four-Year, $12M Deal
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276999/Kyle-Filipowski-Jazz-Sign-Four-Year-$12M-Deal

Don't have a problem with it. The guy looks like a baller and this contract could turn out to be a steal very quickly. It also helps the Jazz reach the salary floor.

Hopefully we'll get to see a lot of our rookies and second year players + Kessler because it's a foregone conclusion that the Jazz aren't going to win may games.
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Post#89 » by D Rog » Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:16 pm

So much for "Big Game Hunting".

At least I have Ute Football and the NFL that I can look forward to watching. Hopefully I will still be alive in 2030 when the Jazz may be a mid tier Western Conference team again.
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Post#90 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:33 pm

Oscar is a fine signing though we already have six guys who can play center.
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Post#91 » by AGE1207 » Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:37 pm

And now Patty Mills coming our way 8-) - great potential leadership for the young guns I suppose?
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Post#92 » by Lava Rock Kid » Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:06 pm

Patty mills? I like the guy. But are we developing rookies or going for the 10th seed? I don’t get it
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Post#93 » by AGE1207 » Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:25 pm

Lava Rock Kid wrote:Patty mills? I like the guy. But are we developing rookies or going for the 10th seed? I don’t get it


We are developing rookies for sure. Mills was outstanding during the Olympics but he’s not getting us a ring. I assume we are essentially bringing him in to help develop and mentor (some of) the young players. Plus he should be good for the locker room in general which could be crucial in a (very likely) losing season.

I really like this move - smart thinking by the FO
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Post#94 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:24 pm

Don't like it, unless he doesn't play. Why take minutes form Collier, George, and Sexton? On the other hand, maybe he should play? You know, for the tank? Eeeeh, not crazy about this move.
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Post#95 » by HadAnEffectHere » Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:08 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Don't like it, unless he doesn't play. Why take minutes form Collier, George, and Sexton? On the other hand, maybe he should play? You know, for the tank? Eeeeh, not crazy about this move.


He's just here to try to teach George and Collier (who have no winning traits or good fundamentals currently) how to play basketball.

He's kind of a questionable mentor just because I don't know how much young players care about guys who were never stars and are pretty washed up now. If we had gotten like CP3 or Westbrook, it would make more sense, but those guys didn't want to go here, of course.
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Post#96 » by Fido » Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:41 pm

I thought Andy Larsen's take on this was pretty good.
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On the Patty Mills signing:
I certainly think it's possible he plays, even above Isaiah Collier. One of the Jazz's organizational philosophies has been "No Free Minutes" — that youth develops best by earning PT only when coaches believe they're the best options in their roles.

He attached some quotes from Will Hardy with his philosophy on playing time:
"I want to create an environment where people work for it and it's not just handed to you. "Like, 'oh, you're a high draft pick and so you just get to have the ball the whole time and you just get to play and you get to just throw the ball into the stands 18 times and we just don't care.' There's moments that you're gonna have to take a step back, you got to sit down you're gonna play less and you're not going to close this game."
"When you give people free minutes, where there's no repercussions for anything, a lot of bad habits form and a lot of lack of self-awareness forms. And that's dangerous, because once that happens, it's hard to undo that."

Some solid vets who will compete with the young guys for playing time is a good thing--they work to bring out the best in each other without having a star like CP3 or Westbrook where the young guy will never see the floor.
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Post#97 » by red4hf » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:35 pm

I like it...... We need a veteran and he seems like a good one......
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Post#98 » by HadAnEffectHere » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:39 pm

Fido wrote:I thought Andy Larsen's take on this was pretty good.
Read on Twitter


On the Patty Mills signing:
I certainly think it's possible he plays, even above Isaiah Collier. One of the Jazz's organizational philosophies has been "No Free Minutes" — that youth develops best by earning PT only when coaches believe they're the best options in their roles.

He attached some quotes from Will Hardy with his philosophy on playing time:
"I want to create an environment where people work for it and it's not just handed to you. "Like, 'oh, you're a high draft pick and so you just get to have the ball the whole time and you just get to play and you get to just throw the ball into the stands 18 times and we just don't care.' There's moments that you're gonna have to take a step back, you got to sit down you're gonna play less and you're not going to close this game."
"When you give people free minutes, where there's no repercussions for anything, a lot of bad habits form and a lot of lack of self-awareness forms. And that's dangerous, because once that happens, it's hard to undo that."

Some solid vets who will compete with the young guys for playing time is a good thing--they work to bring out the best in each other without having a star like CP3 or Westbrook where the young guy will never see the floor.


This is extremely funny coming from Hardy who pretty clearly let everyone refuse to play defense with zero consequences post trade deadline.
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Post#99 » by dr0welf » Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:14 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
Fido wrote:I thought Andy Larsen's take on this was pretty good.
Read on Twitter


On the Patty Mills signing:
I certainly think it's possible he plays, even above Isaiah Collier. One of the Jazz's organizational philosophies has been "No Free Minutes" — that youth develops best by earning PT only when coaches believe they're the best options in their roles.

He attached some quotes from Will Hardy with his philosophy on playing time:
"I want to create an environment where people work for it and it's not just handed to you. "Like, 'oh, you're a high draft pick and so you just get to have the ball the whole time and you just get to play and you get to just throw the ball into the stands 18 times and we just don't care.' There's moments that you're gonna have to take a step back, you got to sit down you're gonna play less and you're not going to close this game."
"When you give people free minutes, where there's no repercussions for anything, a lot of bad habits form and a lot of lack of self-awareness forms. And that's dangerous, because once that happens, it's hard to undo that."

Some solid vets who will compete with the young guys for playing time is a good thing--they work to bring out the best in each other without having a star like CP3 or Westbrook where the young guy will never see the floor.


This is extremely funny coming from Hardy who pretty clearly let everyone refuse to play defense with zero consequences post trade deadline.


Yeah, no way that came down from the front office telling him he's got to start losing games. He must be just a bad coach
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Post#100 » by jazzvintage » Fri Aug 16, 2024 5:12 am

Even if it came from above, there's more adequate ways to lose games than to just let everybody play no D, especially young and a bit cocky guys like KG.

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