NBA 2017 Draft Prospects Thread

stitches · Post #881 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:53 pm

pickIBL wrote:Idk if it's all smoke, but a month after my big board it seems like my guy could go number one.. which seemed unrealistic at the time.

Who's your no. 1 player? Can you post your big board?

pickIBL · Post #882 » by **pickIBL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:21 pm

pickIBL wrote:Oh boy here goes

1. Josh Jackson
2. Markelle Fultz
3. De'Aaron Fox
4. Frank Ntilinka
5. Lonzo Ball
6. Jason Tatum
7. Dennis Smith
8. Lauri Markkanen
9. Jonathan Isaac
10. Malik Monk
11. Jonathan Jeanne
12. TJ Leaf
13. Donovan Mitchell
14. Jarrett Allen
15. Bam Adebayo
16. Isaiah Hartenstein
17. OG Anunoby
18. Mathias Lessort
19. Justin Jackson
20. Anzejs Pasecniks
21. Ivan Rabb
22. Terrance Ferguson
23. George De Paula
24. Hamidou Diallo
25. Caleb Swanigan
26. Luke Kennard
27. Justin Patton
28. Zach Collins
29. Alpha Kaba
30. Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot (Bubble)
31. Thomas Bryant (Bubble)

Id put smith 3 now and bump everyone down. I'd get bolden in there for jeanne. Jeanne as a 2nd round gamble is fine. Hell austin is hoopin

stitches · Post #883 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:25 pm

I need to do a 1 week before the draft board too...

At the top I'm Fultz, Smith Jr, Jackson too...

pickIBL · Post #884 » by **pickIBL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:25 pm

Diallo and cryille out. Give me burton 31... went American!

stitches · Post #885 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:26 pm

pickIBL wrote:Id put smith 3 now and bump everyone down. I'd get bolden in there for jeanne. Jeanne as a 2nd round gamble is fine. Hell austin is hoopin

Do you trust JJ's shooting? I don't think he will ever be even average shooter. That's why I can't put him above Fultz.

pickIBL · Post #886 » by **pickIBL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:33 pm

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Id put smith 3 now and bump everyone down. I'd get bolden in there for jeanne. Jeanne as a 2nd round gamble is fine. Hell austin is hoopin

Do you trust JJ's shooting? I don't think he will ever be even average shooter. That's why I can't put him above Fultz.

I expect a lot of growth from any of these guys to actually blow up in the league. Jackson projects well and i do think danny is drawn to him.

That's why i want hayward to man up. If he's out the jazz could trade up. Plus if he wants to go to boston the jazz can hopefully accommodate and s&t after the celtics sign someone else. They got two legit stashes and brown. I want 2 of them.

stitches · Post #887 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:35 pm

pickIBL wrote:
stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Id put smith 3 now and bump everyone down. I'd get bolden in there for jeanne. Jeanne as a 2nd round gamble is fine. Hell austin is hoopin

Do you trust JJ's shooting? I don't think he will ever be even average shooter. That's why I can't put him above Fultz.

I expect a lot of growth from any of these guys to actually blow up in the league. Jackson projects well and i do think danny is drawn to him.

That's why i want hayward to man up. If he's out the jazz could trade up. Plus if he wants to go to boston the jazz can hopefully accommodate and s&t after the celtics sign someone else. They got two legit stashes and brown. I want 2 of them.

I'm sorry to keep repeating this but Boston is not sending Brown to us in a SnT. The most I can see them send is Avery Bradley. And even then the much better option for them is to just trade him for future pick than to gift him to us.

pickIBL · Post #888 » by **pickIBL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:08 pm

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:
stitches wrote:
Do you trust JJ's shooting? I don't think he will ever be even average shooter. That's why I can't put him above Fultz.

I expect a lot of growth from any of these guys to actually blow up in the league. Jackson projects well and i do think danny is drawn to him.

That's why i want hayward to man up. If he's out the jazz could trade up. Plus if he wants to go to boston the jazz can hopefully accommodate and s&t after the celtics sign someone else. They got two legit stashes and brown. I want 2 of them.

I'm sorry to keep repeating this but Boston is not sending Brown to us in a SnT. The most I can see them send is Avery Bradley. And even then the much better option for them is to just trade him for future pick than to gift him to us.

My idea only works if they want two stars. Blake and Hayward. Then they need us

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #889 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:29 pm

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:
stitches wrote:
Do you trust JJ's shooting? I don't think he will ever be even average shooter. That's why I can't put him above Fultz.

I expect a lot of growth from any of these guys to actually blow up in the league. Jackson projects well and i do think danny is drawn to him.

That's why i want hayward to man up. If he's out the jazz could trade up. Plus if he wants to go to boston the jazz can hopefully accommodate and s&t after the celtics sign someone else. They got two legit stashes and brown. I want 2 of them.

I'm sorry to keep repeating this but Boston is not sending Brown to us in a SnT. The most I can see them send is Avery Bradley. And even then the much better option for them is to just trade him for future pick than to gift him to us.

I'll go one step further and say that the only chance we get anything from Boston if Hayward signs with them is if he demands as part of his agreement that they send some sort of payment back to Utah. Boston have 0 incentive to send us anything for free unless it hinges on what Hayward wants. But then the question is, why would Gordon weaken the team he's signing with? I guess if he really feels bad about leaving Utah and wants to give us a departing "thanks" but I don't think that's realistic either.

In short, don't count on any free handouts if Hayward leaves us in free agency.

And here's my "1 week" big board for those who care (with tiers):
------------------------------------Tier 1
1: Markelle Fultz
------------------------------------Tier 2
2: Josh Jackson
3: De’Aaron Fox
------------------------------------Tier 3
4: Lauri Markkanen
5: Jonathan Isaac
6: Lonzo Ball
7: Jayson Tatum
8: Frank Ntlikina
9: Dennis Smith
10: Donovan Mitchell
11: Malik Monk
----------------------------------Tier 4
12: Justin Jackson (UNC)
13: Zach Collins
14: John Collins
15: Frank Jackson
16: Harry Giles
17: Ike Anigbogu
18: OG Anunoby
19: Justin Patton
-------------------------------Tier 5
20: Jarrett Allen
21: TJ Leaf
22: Jordan Bell
23: Jawun Evans
24: Derrick White
25: Caleb Swanigan
26: Isaiah Hartenstein
27: Mathias Lessort
28: Bam Edebayo
29: Semi Ojeleye
30: Kyle Kuzma

31: Jonah Bolden
32: DJ Wilson
33: Anzejs Pasecniks
34: Tony Bradley
35: Tyler Lydon
36: Ivan Rabb
37: Luke Kennard
-----------------------------Tier 6
38: Josh Hart
39: Jonathan Motley
40: Thomas Bryant
41: Terrance Ferguson
42: Edmond Sumner
43: PJ Dozier
----------------------------Tier 7
44: Dillon Brooks
45: Jaron Blossomgame
46: Cameron Oliver
47: Wesley Iwundu
48: Frank Mason III
49: Damyean Dotson
50: LJ Peak
51: Malcolm Hill
52: Tyler Dorsey
53: Jake Wiley
54: Davon Reed
55: Aleksandar Vezenkov
56: Vlatko Cancar
57: George De Paula
58: Alpha Kaba
--------------------------------Tier 8
59: Sindarius Thornwell
60: Chance Comanche

Post #890 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:54 pm

The thing I'm most excited by for this draft is the possibility that we may get to see on live tv Lonzo Ball have to take off his Laker hat and trade it for a different one.

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pickIBL · Post #891 » by **pickIBL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:02 pm

I want to see his dad sulk as he drops lol

KqWIN · Post #892 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:25 pm

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KqWIN · Post #893 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:29 pm

I don't know if I believe this, but it's coming from top dogs. Why would Boston trade Fultz for a grab bag?

stitches · Post #894 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:32 pm

KqWIN wrote:I don't know if I believe this, but it's coming from top dogs. Why would Boston trade Fultz for a grab bag?

WOW! The deals that have been floating around are #1 for #3, Saric and Lakers pick next year. And also the rumor is that Ainge loves Josh Jackson. This is weird! WOW! This would be the biggest draft trade in recent memory if it happens.

stitches · Post #895 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:46 pm

Also - does this mean anything about Hayward? I mean if they draft Josh Jackson, they will have 3 SFs, 2 of them drafted in top 3 in the last 2 years?

KqWIN · Post #896 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:55 pm

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KqWIN · Post #897 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:57 pm

stitches wrote:Also - does this mean anything about Hayward? I mean if they draft Josh Jackson, they will have 3 SFs, 2 of them drafted in top 3 in the last 2 years?

Think it might have to do more with Butler than Hawyard.

Butler -> Boston
#3 -> Chicago

pickIBL · Post #898 » by **pickIBL** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:57 pm

1. Josh Jackson
2. Markelle Fultz
3. Dennis Smith
4. De'Aaron Fox
5. Frank Ntilinka
6. Jason Tatum
7. Jonathan Isaac
8. Lonzo Ball
9. Lauri Markkanen
10. Malik Monk
11. Jonah Bolden
12. TJ Leaf
13. Donovan Mitchell
14. Jarrett Allen
15, Mathias Lessort
16. Bam Adebayo
17. Isaiah Hartenstein
18. Justin Jackson
19. Anzejs Pasecniks
20. Ivan Rabb
21. Terrance Ferguson
22. Caleb Swanigan
23. Alpha Kaba
24. George De Paula
25. John Collins
26. OG Anunoby
27. Justin Patton
28. Zach Collins
29. Deonte Burton
30. Luke Kennard
31. Thomas Bryant (Bubble)

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #899 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:17 pm

stitches wrote:Also - does this mean anything about Hayward? I mean if they draft Josh Jackson, they will have 3 SFs, 2 of them drafted in top 3 in the last 2 years?

Been reading a lot of rumors that the Celtics will flip the #3 pick and a lot of other 1st rounders to land Jimmy Butler.

stitches · Post #900 » by **stitches** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:22 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:
stitches wrote:Also - does this mean anything about Hayward? I mean if they draft Josh Jackson, they will have 3 SFs, 2 of them drafted in top 3 in the last 2 years?

Been reading a lot of rumors that the Celtics will flip the #3 pick and a lot of other 1st rounders to land Jimmy Butler.

That doesn't sound good. I think it makes Boston a more attractive destination, IMO.