Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018

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Don't even think about it, DL! Please no! PLEASE!

We don't have his Butler buddy to impress anymore.

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Don't even think about it, DL! Please no! PLEASE!

We don't have his Butler buddy to impress anymore.

We have Quin! And when it comes to Shelvin... he needs no impressing.

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Early ROY odds for next year::

2018-2019 NBA Rookie of the Year – Odds to Win
Deandre Ayton 13/5
Luka Doncic 3/1
Marvin Bagley 9/2
Ben Simmons 5/1
Trae Young 7/1
Jaren Jackson Jr 9/1
Mohamed Bamba 11/1
Kevin Knox 15/1
Michael Porter Jr 15/1
Mikal Bridges 22/1
Collin Sexton 22/1
Miles Bridges 28/1
Wendell Carter Jr 28/1
Donte DiVincenzo 40/1
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 40/1
Zhaire Smith 45/1
Lonnie Walker 50/1
Robert Williams 50/1

[Luigi]

Early ROY odds for next year::

2018-2019 NBA Rookie of the Year – Odds to Win
Deandre Ayton 13/5
Luka Doncic 3/1
Marvin Bagley 9/2
Ben Simmons 5/1
Trae Young 7/1
Jaren Jackson Jr 9/1
Mohamed Bamba 11/1
Kevin Knox 15/1
Michael Porter Jr 15/1
Mikal Bridges 22/1
Collin Sexton 22/1
Miles Bridges 28/1
Wendell Carter Jr 28/1
Donte DiVincenzo 40/1
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 40/1
Zhaire Smith 45/1
Lonnie Walker 50/1
Robert Williams 50/1

[Inigo Montoya]

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Worst news of the offseason. Poor Exum (and Neto)

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Worst news of the offseason. Poor Exum (and Neto)

Poor Rubio, he will have to play backup PG.

[Daddy 801]

Gortat being traded to Clippers is a sign to me Favs might be in play for Washington.


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[MTJazzv3]

Gortat being traded to Clippers is a sign to me Favs might be in play for Washington.


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Maybe. I'm not sure I get the whole Rivers for Gortat move, but then again I don't follow those teams that carefully and know why that works for both - they are basically swapping expiring contracts.

[Daddy 801]

Gortat being traded to Clippers is a sign to me Favs might be in play for Washington.


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Maybe. I'm not sure I get the whole Rivers for Gortat move, but then again I don't follow those teams that carefully and know why that works for both - they are basically swapping expiring contracts.

Washington could use another guard and the Clips get a big man who can man the fort while they get ready to trade DeAndre. Makes perfect sense to me.

Wall, Beal, Austin, Middleton, and if they sign Favs is a decent staring 5 that easily should be able to make the playoffs. And once LeBron goes to LA the east becomes much more open with Washington able to secure the 3 seed pretty easily if they reach their potential.


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[AingesBurner]

Gortat being traded to Clippers is a sign to me Favs might be in play for Washington.


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Maybe. I'm not sure I get the whole Rivers for Gortat move, but then again I don't follow those teams that carefully and know why that works for both - they are basically swapping expiring contracts.

Washington could use another guard and the Clips get a big man who can man the fort while they get ready to trade DeAndre. Makes perfect sense to me.

Wall, Beal, Austin, Middleton, and if they sign Favs is a decent staring 5 that easily should be able to make the playoffs. And once LeBron goes to LA the east becomes much more open with Washington able to secure the 3 seed pretty easily if they reach their potential.


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I think you mean Porter homie haha.


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Gortat being traded to Clippers is a sign to me Favs might be in play for Washington.


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Maybe. I'm not sure I get the whole Rivers for Gortat move, but then again I don't follow those teams that carefully and know why that works for both - they are basically swapping expiring contracts.

Except Rivers is not expiring. He has a player option that he will most probably take next year. So this deal is about clearing capspace for next year by the Clippers and about lowering the luxury tax for WAS this year(not by much).. Also... it seems like Gortat and Wall seemed to not be best of friends so that solves a problem in the locker room too.

edit:my bad, as you and Inigo pointed out it seems like 2018-2019 is Rivers' last year of the contract. For some reason i thought he had one more after.

[Daddy 801]

Maybe. I'm not sure I get the whole Rivers for Gortat move, but then again I don't follow those teams that carefully and know why that works for both - they are basically swapping expiring contracts.

Washington could use another guard and the Clips get a big man who can man the fort while they get ready to trade DeAndre. Makes perfect sense to me.

Wall, Beal, Austin, Middleton, and if they sign Favs is a decent staring 5 that easily should be able to make the playoffs. And once LeBron goes to LA the east becomes much more open with Washington able to secure the 3 seed pretty easily if they reach their potential.


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I think you mean Porter homie haha.


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Haha. Indeed.


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[Inigo Montoya]

Except Rivers is not expiring. He has a player option that he will most probably take next year. So this deal is about clearing capspace for next year by the Clippers and about lowering the luxury tax for WAS this year(not by much).. Also... it seems like Gortat and Wall seemed to not be best of friends so that solves a problem in the locker room too.

If Rivers picks up his player option then he and Gortat will expire at the same time, which is after the next season ends. I guess we can say that the Wizards will save around 900K and resolve some issues they had with Wall and Gortat, but they don't really need Rivers--they have enough wings, and they lose significant talent and depth at C. All they have now is Mahinmi (and Jason Smith, maybe). Perhaps there will be another move to shore up the C position but right now it doesn't seem like a great move for the Wizards unless Rivers opts out of his player option and becomes UFA.

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Except Rivers is not expiring. He has a player option that he will most probably take next year. So this deal is about clearing capspace for next year by the Clippers and about lowering the luxury tax for WAS this year(not by much).. Also... it seems like Gortat and Wall seemed to not be best of friends so that solves a problem in the locker room too.

If Rivers picks up his player option then he and Gortat will expire at the same time, which is after the next season ends. I guess we can say that the Wizards will save around 900K and resolve some issues they had with Wall and Gortat, but they don't really need Rivers--they have enough wings, and they lose significant talent and depth at C. All they have now is Mahinmi (and Jason Smith, maybe). Perhaps there will be another move to shore up the C position but right now it doesn't seem like a great move for the Wizards unless Rivers opts out of his player option and becomes UFA.

You are right, my bad... for some reason I thought Rivers has one more option year on that contract.

[Daddy 801]

Except Rivers is not expiring. He has a player option that he will most probably take next year. So this deal is about clearing capspace for next year by the Clippers and about lowering the luxury tax for WAS this year(not by much).. Also... it seems like Gortat and Wall seemed to not be best of friends so that solves a problem in the locker room too.

If Rivers picks up his player option then he and Gortat will expire at the same time, which is after the next season ends. I guess we can say that the Wizards will save around 900K and resolve some issues they had with Wall and Gortat, but they don't really need Rivers--they have enough wings, and they lose significant talent and depth at C. All they have now is Mahinmi (and Jason Smith, maybe). Perhaps there will be another move to shore up the C position but right now it doesn't seem like a great move for the Wizards unless Rivers opts out of his player option and becomes UFA.

This is exactly why I think they might be in play for Favs.

Their wing and guard depth is deep enough they could trade Middleton if they wanted to. His contract is a lot of money. Not saying that’s what I would do, but I can see them making this move.


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[Inigo Montoya]

Except Rivers is not expiring. He has a player option that he will most probably take next year. So this deal is about clearing capspace for next year by the Clippers and about lowering the luxury tax for WAS this year(not by much).. Also... it seems like Gortat and Wall seemed to not be best of friends so that solves a problem in the locker room too.

If Rivers picks up his player option then he and Gortat will expire at the same time, which is after the next season ends. I guess we can say that the Wizards will save around 900K and resolve some issues they had with Wall and Gortat, but they don't really need Rivers--they have enough wings, and they lose significant talent and depth at C. All they have now is Mahinmi (and Jason Smith, maybe). Perhaps there will be another move to shore up the C position but right now it doesn't seem like a great move for the Wizards unless Rivers opts out of his player option and becomes UFA.

This is exactly why I think they might be in play for Favs.

Their wing and guard depth is deep enough they could trade Middleton if they wanted to. His contract is a lot of money. Not saying that’s what I would do, but I can see them making this move.


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Middleton plays for the Bucks. Did you mean Porter? And the Wizards don't have the cap space to make a play for Favors as a free agent, so they'll have to execute a SnT, which is not easy to do.

[Daddy 801]

If Rivers picks up his player option then he and Gortat will expire at the same time, which is after the next season ends. I guess we can say that the Wizards will save around 900K and resolve some issues they had with Wall and Gortat, but they don't really need Rivers--they have enough wings, and they lose significant talent and depth at C. All they have now is Mahinmi (and Jason Smith, maybe). Perhaps there will be another move to shore up the C position but right now it doesn't seem like a great move for the Wizards unless Rivers opts out of his player option and becomes UFA.

This is exactly why I think they might be in play for Favs.

Their wing and guard depth is deep enough they could trade Middleton if they wanted to. His contract is a lot of money. Not saying that’s what I would do, but I can see them making this move.


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Middleton plays for the Bucks. Did you mean Porter? And the Wizards don't have the cap space to make a play for Favors as a free agent, so they'll have to execute a SnT, which is not easy to do.

I keep switching up Middleton and Porter. My bad.

On a scale of things to happen a SnT is unlikely. But that’s their only option so I think they will try. Maybe Favs isn’t their main target, but they could send out Middleton and bring back a guy like Favs on a longer deal and maybe use Burks or someone else as filler.


Edit- I could see Favs agreeing to something like this if it is his only option for a longer/bigger payday.

[Inigo Montoya]

I keep switching up Middleton and Porter. My bad.

On a scale of things to happen a SnT is unlikely. But that’s their only option so I think they will try. Maybe Favs isn’t their main target, but they could send out Middleton and bring back a guy like Favs on a longer deal and maybe use Burks or someone else as filler.


Edit- I could see Favs agreeing to something like this if it is his only option for a longer/bigger payday.

And you even edited the post and kept Middleton in it. Classic

[SoCalJazzFan]

I'd be surprised if the Lakers aren't the next superfriend superteam by the end of next week. As a fan outside of the couple of superteams, this really sucks! I hope the NBA does something to curtail this.

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I'd be surprised if the Lakers aren't the next superfriend superteam by the end of next week. As a fan outside of the couple of superteams, this really sucks! I hope the NBA does something to curtail this.

This is indeed such an abomination of a dynamic. How can a team suck so bad for so long, give some of the worst contracts in the league to horrible players and then wake up and be FA destination overnight, while teams like the Jazz have done everything right, have built their team the right way, haven't given albatrosses of contracts, have drafted well, have made smart free agent acquisitions and we still cannot even get a meeting with the top tier FAs. Complete and utter BS. If we cannot get a top tier FA this year or next, IMO it will never happen. We just will have to give up on the idea altogether and operate with the assumption that it will never happen. Just strike high end free agency as a strategy off our repertoire and just try to maximize the other ways of acquiring talent.