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Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:50 pm
by drivewayball
How about some suggestions to management on how they can solve the financial roadblock to bringing Carlos Boozer back for next season. I haven't been able to come up with any.

Trading Okur for a second round draft pick would help ... but I can't see it happening.
Finding a taker for Kirilenko's $17 million would help ... but no one sees that happening.

Is there any way at all that Boozer wears a Utah uniform next season?

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:57 pm
by David Ginola 14
How much Boozer...?
50 in 4 is good for him...?

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:55 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
If Boozer wants to be here then it would be easy to sign him. You just sign Booz to a increasing contract. The first year he could get whatever the Jazz can offer him, and still remain competitive, the next year his contract would jump up to make up for the first year.

For instance, If Boozer is signed to a contract that is about 13 million a season, pay him 8 million the first season and then 14-15 million for the rest of his contract to compensate.

So it isn't as much about finding ways to help Miller keep Booz, it's about finding ways to convince Booz to do it. It's all on Booz this summer.

Personally I'd say Just let him go. He is the best power forward in the league, offensively, but I don't see enough heart in the guy. I'd rather let him go and at least make a push for Bosh. Personally, I feel Bosh is overrated but he doesn't miss games, especially at the rate that Boozer does.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:04 pm
by jazzed77
QuantumMacgyver wrote:If Boozer wants to be here then it would be easy to sign him. You just sign Booz to a increasing contract. The first year he could get whatever the Jazz can offer him, and still remain competitive, the next year his contract would jump up to make up for the first year.

For instance, If Boozer is signed to a contract that is about 13 million a season, pay him 8 million the first season and then 14-15 million for the rest of his contract to compensate.

So it isn't as much about finding ways to help Miller keep Booz, it's about finding ways to convince Booz to do it. It's all on Booz this summer.

Personally I'd say Just let him go. He is the best power forward in the league, offensively, but I don't see enough heart in the guy. I'd rather let him go and at least make a push for Bosh. Personally, I feel Bosh is overrated but he doesn't miss games, especially at the rate that Boozer does.

70, 69, 67, 77, 70.....thats # of games played the past 5 seasons for Bosh....doesn't exactly scream "ironman" to me....basicly even thos booze has had 2 awful injury filled seasons, bosh has only played in 50more games over that time.....now if we're talking Bosh taking Booze $$$$ to play in Utah I proly feel different but I doubt that happens

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:50 pm
by nyjazz
Lets be honest, the only premier free agent we have any chance of signing is Boozer. There is no, absolutely no chance of any other premier agent coming to Utah, especially with the Jazz lacking cap space and competition from very attractive teams with cap space.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:23 pm
by ctorres
drivewayball wrote:Trading Okur for a second round draft pick would help ... but I can't see it happening.
Finding a taker for Kirilenko's $17 million would help ... but no one sees that happening.


Call the Knicks!

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:27 pm
by hoops4life
QuantumMacgyver wrote:I don't see enough heart in the guy.


That is odd. The guy plays with more emtion and heart than anybody else on the team for the most part, especially as of late.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:40 pm
by Fido
The Jazz will not be free agency players this year. Allocated salaries total $54,790,979 and the #9 1st Round pick is $1,963,000. Assuming the projected salary cap is $56,100,000, that leaves the jazz a couple hundred thousand dollars over the salary cap. My guesstimate of the projected luxury tax is just under $70,000,000 so they would be somewhere around $13.6 million under the luxury tax. They can resign Boozer. The rest of the roster is going to be tough unless trades happen. The good news is they have the Harpring trade exception to use but luxury tax caution will dampen those efforts.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:55 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
hoops4life wrote:
QuantumMacgyver wrote:I don't see enough heart in the guy.


That is odd. The guy plays with more emtion and heart than anybody else on the team for the most part, especially as of late.


Yeah it is odd. 2 words- Contract Year.
Where was this heart the first five years of his contract? Where was this heart when he sat out the season ender against Phoenix?

And I don't think you can justifiably say he's playing with more heart than Deron, Wes, Millsap or Memo. Memo showed more heart than anybody by trying to play through injuries.

jazzed77 wrote:70, 69, 67, 77, 70.....thats # of games played the past 5 seasons for Bosh....doesn't exactly scream "ironman" to me....basicly even thos booze has had 2 awful injury filled seasons, bosh has only played in 50more games over that time.....now if we're talking Bosh taking Booze $$$$ to play in Utah I proly feel different but I doubt that happens


*Disclaimer- I'll be the first to admit if any of these numbers are wrong.

81, 70, 69, 67, 77, 70=434 games played- Chris Bosh

78, 37, 81, 74, 33, 51=354 games played- Carlos Boozer

Boozer played an entire season less than Bosh due to injuries. And if missing 15 games is your most injury prone season, I'll take it!
I'm not crazy about Bosh and I'm not a Boozer hater, but should we be hinging our franchises future on a guy who plays an average of 59 games a season? Boozer at 10-12 million a season is tolerable, but he'll want, and get, more than that somewhere.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:14 pm
by Fido
I'm happy with Boozer's effort and heart of late. If he does go elsewhere, we will miss his productivity.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:30 pm
by J_Ray
Let's hold a RealGM Bake Sale to donate to the Boozer Fund.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:40 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
J_Ray wrote:Let's hold a RealGM Bake Sale to donate to the Boozer Fund.


Hahahaha!!! Or to go towards an Anti-Carmelo Commercial!

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:57 pm
by Sloanfeld
When we won game four against the Rockets in 2007 someone on TV said that having a game six pocketed Larry Miller about $550,000, and I believe that it was profit. Well, tonight's game should help a little with the luxury tax bill.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 5:37 am
by CAE15
ink him to a deal 4 or 5 years. trade AK's expiring at the deadline. I love AK but hes not going to be worth his what 18 million dollar contract? What ever teams are gearing up for the 2011 free agency will be our targets. Question is how much do we give wesley?

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 5:40 am
by @ndrew
It's going to be hard to retain Wes...

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 5:41 am
by Spre_4_3
What happened to wanting to trade him and let him go? Wasn't there a few of you on here that despised Boozer and vowed to never root for him again? And I believe one of the old timers said something to the extent of, "Watch, come April-May you'll be right back on the Boozer band wagon cheering every time he scores." Prophecy fulfilled.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 5:46 am
by Sloanfeld
^I have no clue about you, hard to notice someone who hasn't posted much, but I was all about Boozer in the offseason. If we don't re-sign him I'll probably kill myself, come back to life, cause major destruction, and kill myself again.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 8:01 am
by JSrose115
Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer belong together, keep them on the team along with Wes Matthews and build around them.

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 3:13 pm
by freakazoid
QuantumMacgyver wrote: Where was this heart when he sat out the season ender against Phoenix?

:roll:

Re: Help Miller Bring Boozer back ...

Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 3:30 pm
by dr0welf
I am glad Boozer is playing well and saying alot of the right stuff. Problem with this offseason is a few teams solidified themselves as spenders and will bring up the value the players ask for. Especially once Wade, Bron, Bosh, Dirk, etc all get done and teams with lots to spend still have it. They will go after the Joe Johnson's, Boozer's, etc with more then they deserve. I don't see us being able to keep him unless he gives us a friend discount.

I personally would rather have Bosh then Boozer, which is highly unlikely. I would not be upset as long as we get one of them :).