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1) Let him walk. Re-tool the offense around Deron, CJ and Millsap. Millsap is your starting PF; AK plays SF/PF; the draft pick and/or Fesenko plays C until Memo gets back. Jazz could re-sign Korver under this plan, but I'm not in favor of it.

2) Re-sign him to a 6-year contract that starts at $13M and ends with some astronomical figure. (I think this is the minimum that it would take). This plan means no Korver and also means dumping AK or Okur before the trading deadline. AK is the more likely to be dealt since Okur will be damaged goods with a non-expiring contract. Unfortunately trading AK would probably require the Jazz to take on at least one bad contract that will hamper their capspace for another couple years. (But hey, you never know, maybe that Russian owner REALLY wants AK).

3) Sign-and-trade him. Whether this is an option depends largely on if there are two or more bidders for his services. If there are then I think one of them may be motivated to work out a deal with Utah where they trade a draft pick and/or a promising young player to the Jazz in exchange for Boozer and a six-year deal. Remember, if Boozer signs as an unrestricted FA, he can only get a five year contract. Since this other team (Miami, Chicago, New York, New Jersey) will be under the cap, the Jazz won't have to take back matching salaries but could still get something for Boozer. If you can do this option, it's clearly superior to Option 1.

I just dont like Millsap as our full-time starting PF. We're already small, we dont need to get smaller. I think his numbers are sometimes inflated by the fact he's playing against backups...I know he had some great stretches as a starter, but he also had some bad stretches and with the system Sloan runs you cant afford to have your PF only be capable of producing 50-60% of the time.

So I guess my choice would be, anything that doesnt leave Paul as our starter.

stevebozell wrote:I just dont like Millsap as our full-time starting PF. We're already small, we dont need to get smaller. I think his numbers are sometimes inflated by the fact he's playing against backups...I know he had some great stretches as a starter, but he also had some bad stretches and with the system Sloan runs you cant afford to have your PF only be capable of producing 50-60% of the time.

If this is indeed the direction the Jazz take, it'll be interesting to see what adjustments they make to the offense in Boozer's absence; because I think that the Jazz won't be as efficient by running for Millsap the same plays they ran for Boozer.

To address the size issue: I the Jazz will draft the Biggest Dude Available (BDA) and their success next year could hinge a lot on how well BDA adjusts to the NBA.

The draft will make some difference.

stevebozell wrote:I just dont like Millsap as our full-time starting PF. We're already small, we dont need to get smaller. I think his numbers are sometimes inflated by the fact he's playing against backups...I know he had some great stretches as a starter, but he also had some bad stretches and with the system Sloan runs you cant afford to have your PF only be capable of producing 50-60% of the time.

So I guess my choice would be, anything that doesnt leave Paul as our starter.

I agree with this. Millsap looked great in the playoffs, but during the regular season he would disappear for large stretches of the season. Millsap should be kept though as one of the best sixth man in the league. I think option 2 would be the best IF boozer wants to stay here. #2 with trading Okur would be my favorite scenario. I think that #3 will be the most likely scenario.

I agree that there is some big challenges ahead--some of which the Jazz can't really control. If Boozer does leave and Millsap becomes the starter, I think another move needs to happen to bring in a scorer at some position. Struggles are ahead if Millsap is the team's #2 scorer. But I think he would be fine as a #3 guy.
This offseason is crazy enough it is hard to say how things are going to go with either the draft or free agency. It will definitely be a ride....

I think the Jazz will let Boozer walk away. Puts the FO in an enviable position come the next CBA, with AK expiring and Memo in his last year.

Option 3 would be awesome. Best scenario is a sign-and-trade with NJ for its 1st round picks in 2011, 2012 and 2013 (Similar to the Nuggets deal for K-Mart). Boozer would be injured as soon as he signs with the Nets, probably playing 50 games combined for the first two seasons, leaving the team with a rookie (Turner, because we're winning the lottery), a second-tier free agent sign-in and some fill-ins. Instant lottery. Sweet.

And, I wish they re-sign Korver. It would be good for the community.

Boozer has to go as Millsap is a better alround player...remember Defense is part of the game. Korver is anothe rnon-defender that has to go.

Sign and trade if you can to team with salary cap issues like GSW for Biedrens/Maggette would be ok. Give us a center and them Boozer who they cannot otherwise get.

The Jazz should have traded Boozer along with NYK pick last year for a superstar but now value is low on both fronts. KOC is an idiot and made a bad problem worse and now has to try and fix it.

I don't believe Boozer will command huge money. Six years at $10 million per should do it.
1) He didn't come close to earning this year's check and he knows that.
2) He didn't come close to earning this year's check and everyone else knows that.
3) He has already purchased about every lavish, senseless model of car out there.

drivewayball wrote:I don't believe Boozer will command huge money. Six years at $10 million per should do it.
1) He didn't come close to earning this year's check and he knows that.
2) He didn't come close to earning this year's check and everyone else knows that.
3) He has already purchased about every lavish, senseless model of car out there.

No chance that money brings back Boozer. He's going to get 12-13 mil minimum, and likely will have annual raises in the vicinity of 1-1.5 mil a year over a 3-5 year deal.

And yes, a 19.5/11/3 player with 56/74% will get that much.

Don't be surprised if he gets more.

HolyToledo wrote:...The Jazz should have traded Boozer along with NYK pick last year for a superstar but now value is low on both fronts. KOC is an idiot and made a bad problem worse and now has to try and fix it.

What planet are you living on Toledo?
Last year Boozer's value was low because of injuries and was only seen as a 1 year rental. Now fanhouse lists him as the #8 free agent in this year's class after he put up a great year. I don't see how anyone could say he is valued less now than last offseason.
As for the Knicks pick--how is the value low? Chances are it will be the #9 pick. Except for when the traded up to get Deron at #3, this is the highest draft pick the Jazz have owned since 1983 when the Jazz picked up Thurl Bailey at #7. And there was the belief that the Knicks were finally going to pull it together and make the playoffs this year--but now that the pick is sure to be in the lottery, how is its value less than last year?
Then there always is that minor detail that said a draft pick can't be traded as long as it has the potential of being moved as a conditional pick from a previous trade. The Jazz have owed MIN (via PHI) a draft pick since the Korver trade in 2007 which is finally being settled this year with the Jazz' own pick at #23. So a trade of that Knicks pick was not even possible until this offseason (there have been discussions on this in the past where people accused KOC of risking losing the Knicks lottery pick this year in the Korver trade but with top 17 protection on the pick owed to them this year that wasn't possible. The only way the Knicks pick COULD have gone to MIN this year was if it was lower than #17 and the Jazz' pick was higher than #17).
So maybe KOC is not as much an idiot as you say...

Fido wrote:

HolyToledo wrote:...The Jazz should have traded Boozer along with NYK pick last year for a superstar but now value is low on both fronts. KOC is an idiot and made a bad problem worse and now has to try and fix it.

What planet are you living on Toledo?
Last year Boozer's value was low because of injuries and was only seen as a 1 year rental. Now fanhouse lists him as the #8 free agent in this year's class after he put up a great year. I don't see how anyone could say he is valued less now than last offseason.
As for the Knicks pick--how is the value low? Chances are it will be the #9 pick. Except for when the traded up to get Deron at #3, this is the highest draft pick the Jazz have owned since 1983 when the Jazz picked up Thurl Bailey at #7. And there was the belief that the Knicks were finally going to pull it together and make the playoffs this year--but now that the pick is sure to be in the lottery, how is its value less than last year?
Then there always is that minor detail that said a draft pick can't be traded as long as it has the potential of being moved as a conditional pick from a previous trade. The Jazz have owed MIN (via PHI) a draft pick since the Korver trade in 2007 which is finally being settled this year with the Jazz' own pick at #23. So a trade of that Knicks pick was not even possible until this offseason (there have been discussions on this in the past where people accused KOC of risking losing the Knicks lottery pick this year in the Korver trade but with top 17 protection on the pick owed to them this year that wasn't possible. The only way the Knicks pick COULD have gone to MIN this year was if it was lower than #17 and the Jazz' pick was higher than #17).
So maybe KOC is not as much an idiot as you say...

God Bless Fido.... God Bless.

Try a sign-and-trade with the Pistons to get the 7th pick. Unlikely, but it's Dumars and he loves Boozer and winning now.

The draft is before free agency...you cant sign and trade for picks.

But, you can have them draft the guy you want and work out the trade later. Of course that involves a lot of trust, something that any smart GM would hesitate to give Boozer.

There are a lot of scenarios out there that could happen, but the overwhelming theme is the Jazz need to do some type of S&T with Boozer and get something out of him. Otherwise, the Jazz do nothing in the off-season other than getting the Knicks #9 pick.

I think the Jazz to an extent need to start fresh, so if that means cutting loose Fess, Korver, Kosta, AK and getting something back for them, then so be it because the Jazz are not currently a championship caliber team and will continue to not be until something changes.

Fido wrote:

HolyToledo wrote:...The Jazz should have traded Boozer along with NYK pick last year for a superstar but now value is low on both fronts. KOC is an idiot and made a bad problem worse and now has to try and fix it.

What planet are you living on Toledo?
Last year Boozer's value was low because of injuries and was only seen as a 1 year rental. Now fanhouse lists him as the #8 free agent in this year's class after he put up a great year. I don't see how anyone could say he is valued less now than last offseason.
As for the Knicks pick--how is the value low? Chances are it will be the #9 pick. Except for when the traded up to get Deron at #3, this is the highest draft pick the Jazz have owned since 1983 when the Jazz picked up Thurl Bailey at #7. And there was the belief that the Knicks were finally going to pull it together and make the playoffs this year--but now that the pick is sure to be in the lottery, how is its value less than last year?
Then there always is that minor detail that said a draft pick can't be traded as long as it has the potential of being moved as a conditional pick from a previous trade. The Jazz have owed MIN (via PHI) a draft pick since the Korver trade in 2007 which is finally being settled this year with the Jazz' own pick at #23. So a trade of that Knicks pick was not even possible until this offseason (there have been discussions on this in the past where people accused KOC of risking losing the Knicks lottery pick this year in the Korver trade but with top 17 protection on the pick owed to them this year that wasn't possible. The only way the Knicks pick COULD have gone to MIN this year was if it was lower than #17 and the Jazz' pick was higher than #17).
So maybe KOC is not as much an idiot as you say...

What was gthe value of the pick and Boozer at the trading deadline!!!! We could have gotten Amare, Haywood, Biedrens, Butler, etc. etc. and now nothing for Boozer and a 9th pick who may or may not be an NBA player.

I was right all along when I said Boozer and NYK pick needed to be traded at trading deadline. I said we would be risking too much at losing Boozer for nothing and that is what is going to happen. 9th pick like Monroe or Ed Davis just gives us a young back up to Millsap. Who knows if these guys ever develop. This was a wasted season bc of KOC!!!!!

HolyToledo wrote:I was right all along when I said Boozer and NYK pick needed to be traded at trading deadline. I said we would be risking too much at losing Boozer for nothing and that is what is going to happen. 9th pick like Monroe or Ed Davis just gives us a young back up to Millsap. Who knows if these guys ever develop. This was a wasted season bc of KOC!!!!!

Who was the buyer and what did they offer?

HolyToledo wrote:What was gthe value of the pick and Boozer at the trading deadline!!!! We could have gotten Amare, Haywood, Biedrens, Butler, etc. etc. and now nothing for Boozer and a 9th pick who may or may not be an NBA player.

Wrong again. Since the Knicks pick COULDN'T BE TRADED at that time (dig through Larry Coon's CBA FAQ if you don't believe me), the pick's value was ZERO. And while those players were on the market, there is no evidence that they were able to be traded for Boozer.