Trading up

[Bullet]

Not being pessimistic, but what will it take for the Jazz to trade up?

What can we offer?

1. A sign-and-trade involving Boozer?

This is risky, since it must have the consent of Boozer. I doubt he'd like to play in a losing/rebuilding team. Philly and LA have good pieces to arguably contend next season, but they still have Brand and Griffin/Kaman, respectively.

2. AK?

Huge contract but expiring next season. Of the eight teams picking ahead of Utah, five have cap space. But with the awesome free agent class, I doubt a team absorbs his salary this early, with the exception of NJ perhaps, because of the Russian connection. The Warriors may have some interest. But a trade with Golden State (or the other teams which doesn't want their cap space eaten up) will have to involve matching salaries, and I think the Jazz won't be amenable to that.

3. Okur?

Injured.

4. Millsap?

Highly unlikely.

5. The 9th pick and future picks?

Washington certainly needs that #1 pick to revive its fanbase. The Arenas incident is just too recent, and the franchise needs to inject some excitement.

Philly doesn't have cap space to wiggle and no tradeable assets (huge and lengthy contracts). They may trade down if Utah CAN absorb one of their big contracts (Brand, Dalembert, or even possibly Iguodala).

NJ is clearly looking to sign a top-tier free agent. Trading down won't make a nice impression. But the 9th pick plus a sign-and-trade involving Boozer might be a great combination, IF Boozer consents.

Minnesota is obviously collecting trade assets. And there's no better way of doing that than getting together a nice group of young guys with talent. That way, you get talent and don't pay much for them as their trade worth improves.

Sacramento? I don't know. I think they're in a position to copy Oklahoma's blueprint of rebuilding through the draft. And they have cap space to lure one of the better FAs. Would the 9th pick and AK do it? They have Casspi to groom; Boozer? They have an undersized PF in Landry; Miles or Matthews? I doubt Utah pulls for it.

Golden State is probably the most intriguing. This year is widely regarded as a big man's draft, and the Warriors already have Biedrins, Randolph, Turiaf, and Wright. It is almost a given that they don't need a surplus of bigs in Golden State because of their run-and-gun offense. Unless Aminu and/or Johnson is available at #6, GS might be willing to trade down.

[CAE15]

i heard utahn's have a lot of porn so maybe we could package that with #9 and get something. I could only see utah using that grizzlies pick but i dont think there is enough interest in utah moving up in theis draft.

[DelaneyRudd]

The free agent negotiation period is a week after the draft so no sign and trade can be worked out.

[CAE15]

The free agent negotiation period is a week after the draft so no sign and trade can be worked out.

can a rookie be traded after draft is over? before they sign their contract?

[Bullet]

The free agent negotiation period is a week after the draft so no sign and trade can be worked out.

I read in the Salary Cap FAQ (http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm) that the only restriction to that is if the rookie has already signed a contract, in which case he can only be traded after 30 days. FAs may sign July 8th at the earliest. If the two teams agree in principle, then a sign-and-trade with Boozer for the rights to the nth pick (granted he hasn't signed a contract yet) may be carried out. That's how I understand it. I may be wrong though.

[carrottop12]

The free agent negotiation period is a week after the draft so no sign and trade can be worked out.

I read in the Salary Cap FAQ (http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm) that the only restriction to that is if the rookie has already signed a contract, in which case he can only be traded after 30 days. FAs may sign July 8th at the earliest. If the two teams agree in principle, then a sign-and-trade with Boozer for the rights to the nth pick (granted he hasn't signed a contract yet) may be carried out. That's how I understand it. I may be wrong though.

You can't even have discussions like that before July 1. At least you aren't supposed too.

[spoonhoops]

I am really hopeful the Jazz can move up in the draft, but if 6 is the best they can do, they may be able to get the same guy at 9. It will be interesting to see how workouts pan out in the next month.

[Fido]

The Jazz would have to give up something they don't want to give up to move into the top 3.

[loserX]

The Boozer thing is pretty much unworkable. No one is going to pick for the Jazz without knowing that Boozer is under wraps, which he won't be.

As for AK, nobody is going to use capspace on him and then do us the favour of trading down for our pick.

Okur: obviously not.

Millsap: probably not, since we likely wouldn't trade him unless we knew Boozer was under wraps...which (again) he won't be.

The future pick thing could work, depending on how the board falls. Although after years of picking in or near the 20s, our future picks aren't going to be all that tempting.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Best option would be to try and trade Boozer for something but it won't.....errr can't happen.

AK....just no.

Millsap....just no.

Picks are pretty worthless.

Best option would to be to try and trade CJ + someone else and goodies.

[Ming Kong!]

CJ Miles played exeptionally well in the playoffs, but I doubt his showcase would help in moving up more than a spot or 2. We need to include AK or Boozer. Millsap is out of the question cause his contract is too good for us.

[StocktonShorts]

When the Jazz traded from 6th to 3rd they gave up the 6th round pick, the 27th pick of that year and their 2006 (the next year) first-round pick.

It's not inconceivable the Jazz could move up a few spots just by trading picks. There are teams picking ahead of the Jazz that may not care as much about a 4- or 5-pick difference; and perhaps more importantly, they'd rather pay the salary for the 9th pick rather than a higher pick.

[Bullet]

How about Minnesota then? Their pick for #9, next year's Memphis pick and CJ Miles. Would that do it? CJ was great for us in this year's playoffs, and hopefully that got Kahn's attention.

[funkatron101]

How about Minnesota then? Their pick for #9, next year's Memphis pick and CJ Miles. Would that do it? CJ was great for us in this year's playoffs, and hopefully that got Kahn's attention.

Probably not. I think the Wolves have a better collection of assets that could net a better result.

[outerspacefella]

I don't want to be that guy, but... IMHO it will be extremely difficult for KOC to cook a trade up move for this draft. There are several teams with better asstes: picks in this draft, young talent, players that would be usefull for another teams but just don't make the cut for their actual teams, more attractive future first rounders....

Jazz can make another team pick for them if the draft run certain way and then pick for the other team... but I think it will require an important amount of variables aligning in real time...

So I really think when all is said and done the Jazz will pick the 9th, with their draftboard looking about this way:

1 - Turner
2 - Wall
3 - Cousins
4 - Favors
5 - Aldrich
6 - Monroe
7 - Udoh
8 - Whiteside
9 - Motiejunas
A guy to watch closely if he slips down: Johnson

FWIW, my own draftboard right now include the same names, but I'd go with Udoh, Whiteside, Motiejunas, Johnson over Monroe because I think Monroe is too darn soft and we really don´t need that...

Guys I wouldn't even look at (just in case a good workout fool us): Alibi, Henry, Aminu, Patterson, Davis, Orton.

Where I'd try to do something is in the second round; may be try tpo trade up or buy a high second rounder to try to get a Varnado or a Lawall if they're there...

Let's see how draft camp, workouts, interviews cange the boards...

Just my thoughts as of today...

[spoonhoops]

Udoh is the key. I'm almost hoping the Jazz are keeping him low key so no other team ahead of them picks him. He brings to the Jazz what they desperately need including shot blocking, size and ready to contribute.

[StocktonShorts]

Udoh is the key. I'm almost hoping the Jazz are keeping him low key so no other team ahead of them picks him. He brings to the Jazz what they desperately need including shot blocking, size and ready to contribute.

Didn't he just measure 6'7" to 6'8" at workouts? We don't need another Boozer/Millsap guy.

Jazz will trade up to get Aldrich. I can feel it.

[Jazzfan12]

Udoh has a 7'5 wingspan so it would be almost impossible for him to be 6'7 or 6'8.

[dr0welf]

Aldrich scares me... Hopefully if we get him he doesn't end up another Ostertag. He has to have better handles then Tag.

[dr0welf]

Udoh has a 7'5 wingspan so it would be almost impossible for him to be 6'7 or 6'8.

He's 6'10" 240lbs