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Any chance the Jazz could sign O'Neal with the Harpring trade exception? Or possibly get him back in a sign and trade if Boozer heads to Miami?

Did you watch the Eastern conference playoffs?

Jazzfan12 wrote:Did you watch the Eastern conference playoffs?

2009-2010 Playoff Leaders

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Dwight Howard - 3.5
Pau Gasol - 2.1
Serge Ibaka - 2.0
Jermaine O'Neal - 2.0
LaMarcus Aldridge - 1.8

He is affordable, and has what the Jazz need. He would be a nice compliment to Okur.

Can't use a trade exception to sign a player.

Not 100% sure if you can do a double sign and trade. Never seen one done. But, I dont know of any rule against it.

J'ON is pretty used up. I would think he could be had for a portion of the MLE much like Brad Miller. Jazz might be as well off just using Fes this year. And that's a much better long term plan.

Somebody else could sign their free agent and send him ton you under your exception. Not sure what they would want in order to do that;

A double sign and trade is doabke if both free agents and both teams are amenable.

JON seems to be decent at times and an injury waiting to happen at others.

finnegan wrote:

Jazzfan12 wrote:Did you watch the Eastern conference playoffs?

2009-2010 Playoff Leaders

BLOCKS

Dwight Howard - 3.5
Pau Gasol - 2.1
Serge Ibaka - 2.0
Jermaine O'Neal - 2.0
LaMarcus Aldridge - 1.8

He is affordable, and has what the Jazz need. He would be a nice compliment to Okur.

He can't play basketball anymore. He made the Heat way worse by just being on the court.

I would sign him for the Vet minimum, maybe a little higher, but honestly he's a stop gap and I don't think the Jazz who are obviously financially strapped should be signing guys who won't have the ability to help the team build.

Jazzfan12 wrote:

finnegan wrote:

Jazzfan12 wrote:Did you watch the Eastern conference playoffs?

2009-2010 Playoff Leaders

BLOCKS

Dwight Howard - 3.5
Pau Gasol - 2.1
Serge Ibaka - 2.0
Jermaine O'Neal - 2.0
LaMarcus Aldridge - 1.8

He is affordable, and has what the Jazz need. He would be a nice compliment to Okur.

He can't play basketball anymore. He made the Heat way worse by just being on the court.

Coming from somebody who wants Adam freaking Morrison on this team....whats worse, not being able to play anymore, or never being able to play period???

No one's given Morrison a shot since his rookie year. Jermaine has gotten tons of opportunities. O'Neal was a bench warmer in his rookie deal as well

He'll go a chasin for a ring with the celts or lakers, i hate the nba but thats what it is.

Ya he would probably help us out but I would have a hard time signing him for more than a year with how old and worn out he looks.

I agree that he will go ring chasing, wouldn't be surprised to see him end up on the Lakers but he will probably stay in Miami with Wade/Bosh.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:I agree that he will go ring chasing, wouldn't be surprised to see him end up on the Lakers but he will probably stay in Miami with Wade/Bosh.

I think you are right, but the Jazz should be laying in wait when Miami low balls O'Neal and he gets insulted. He may be willing to go ring chasing in Utah. It's not entirely out of the realm of possibilites.

The real catches at center would be Marc Gasol, or Al Hoford, since they are up and coming. Marc defends his brother Pau as well as anyone in the league. Dalembert does prettywell against LA also, but he is extremely expensive, and has already been traded.

I've always found the NBA efficiency rating to be a somewhat useful statistic. Considering the efficiency rankings below, O'Neal still seems to have something left in the tank, but should also be affordable.

Rank Player PTS EFF RPG BLKPG
1 David Lee 20.2 27 11.7 0.49
2 Dwight Howard 18.3 25.6 13.2 2.78
3 Brook Lopez 18.8 21.6 8.6 1.7
4 Andrew Bogut 15.9 21.5 10.2 2.54
5 Al Horford 14.2 21.3 9.9 1.12
6 Marc Gasol 14.6 21.1 9.3 1.58
7 Al Jefferson 17.1 19.9 9.2 1.29
8 Nene Hilario 13.8 19.7 7.6 1
9 Joakim Noah 10.7 19.1 11 1.56
10 Chris Kaman 18.5 19.1 9.3 1.24
11 Andrew Bynum 15 19 8.3 1.45
12 Greg Oden 11.1 17.7 8.5 2.29
13 Andrea Bargnani 17.2 16.5 6.2 1.39
14 Brendan Haywood 9.1 16.1 9.3 2.05
15 Samuel Dalembert 8.1 16 9.6 1.84
16 Jermaine O'Neal 13.6 15.8 6.9 1.36
17 Mehmet Okur 13.5 15.8 7.1 1.11
18 Emeka Okafor , NOH 10.4 15.7 9 1.55
19 Kendrick Perkins 10.1 14.5 7.6 1.69
20 Drew Gooden 10.9 14.3 7.7 0.83
21 Roy Hibbert 11.7 14 5.7 1.62
22 Ben Wallace 5.5 13.9 8.7 1.22
23 Shaquille O'Neal 12 13.7 6.7 1.17
24 Channing Frye 11.2 13.6 5.3 0.91
25 Andris Biedrins 5 13.2 7.8 1.33
26 Spencer Hawes 10 12.7 6.1 1.15
27 Erick Dampier 6 12.2 7.3 1.4
28 * DeJuan Blair 7.8 11.1 6.4 0.48
29 Robin Lopez 8.4 10.8 4.9 1.04
30 Joel Przybilla 4.1 10.7 7.9 1.43
31 Tyson Chandler 6.5 10.3 6.3 1.08
32 Nazr Mohammed 7.9 10.3 5.2 0.74
33 Nenad Krstic 8.4 10.3 5 0.59
34 Darko Milicic 6.7 9.9 4.7 1.06
35 Ronny Turiaf 4.9 9.9 4.5 1.29
36 Charles Hayes 4.4 9.8 5.7 0.52
37 Nick Collison 5.9 9.6 5.1 0.64
38 Antonio McDyess 5.8 9.6 5.9 0.42
39 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 7.4 9.3 5.4 0.78

Oden would be and extreme risk, but:

1) he did play decent when he wasn't injured,
2) Camby makes him expendable
3) He is still on his rookie contract, and doesn't havemany years left. So he could be considered and experiment.

Here's a list of the Free Agent bigs this offseason:

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2010/

Notables:

Drew Gooden
Brendan Haywood
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Brad Miller
Rasho Nesterovic
Jermaine O'Neal
Shaquille O'Neal
Luis Scola (restricted)
Ben Wallace

Worth a look:

Joel Anthony
Earl Barron
Tony Battie
Adonal Foyle
Steven Hunter (coming off injury)
Jamaal Magloire
DJ Mbenga
Theo Ratliff
Joe Smith

I think Noah is supposed to be on that list.

Noah doesn't become a FA (restricted) til next offseason. Same as Durant and the other guys from the 2007 draft class.

My bad. I would have loved to dream about picking him up this offseason.

Although I doubt he leaves Chicago after what they'll do this offseason, I'd love to see the Jazz try and get Noah next summer if he explores FA. With AK coming off the books (if we keep him throughout), we'd better make some noise next summer and Noah is absolutely EVERYTHING we need.

Man I wish we could somehow pry him away. Never gonna happen. I'm gonna go be sad now.

You know who's kinda like Noah? Cole **** Aldrich. I'm still bitter.

Joel Anthony is someone I would take a good long look at grabbing. There are plenty of options out there, we should be able to land someone for a good price while everyone is fighting for the big names.