Fire Kevin O'Connor

[StocktonShorts]

As the Jazz continue to hemorrhage talent I think it's time to make a change and get rid of KOC. He's done almost nothing proactively to make the Jazz a better team in the past two years, and I have very little confidence that he'll be able to right the ship before Deron jumps.

[Gothapotamus]

I am not an apologist for KOC, but to say he hasn't been proactive is hard to validate. He could be as proactive as the next GM but get different results.

[seejaydeja]

Seriously, all these claims at KOC sitting on his hands are getting ridiculous. None of you have any kind of access to the Jazz FO to have legitimate knowledge of what is really going on behind closed doors, so until the off-season is really over, STFU

[hoops4life]

You can't force an unrestricted player to sign with you. They can go where ever they want.

You can't force a team to make a trade.

He righted the ship before, so what makes you think that he can't do it again?

[kebutah]

He righted the ship when we were one of a few with CAP space. He really can't do anything since Philadelphia is not looking to make any trades.

[DFO]

Overreact much Prole?

Boozer the mercenary gets a big offer and its KOC fault. At least he got the trade exception.

His player personnel department finds a decent undrafted player in Wes Matthews and its KOC's fault that he gets a $34 million 5 year offer sheet?

Korver takes his one dimensional game out of town for more money then we could or should offer.

He made the right decision last year on Sap. From watching summer league it looks like he made the right decision on Hayward.

And before this goes any further just remember the burden that KOC has in this job. Fans pack the building and ticket rev is good, but it is still a small market team with an owner that doesn't have billions like Cuban or the Russian. The Jazz also play in the white-est city in the league which is not conducive to attracting a lot of african-american players. KOC has a VERY difficult job and quite frankly I havent seen many mistakes since drafting Deron.

[kebutah]

As long as fans pack the house there is no pressure on KOC at all. They really don't care if they compete for the title. They only want the Jazz to be a positive factor of the Miller empire.

[Gothapotamus]

It would be nice if Deron were out there trying to recruit as it seems that is the new way to do things.

I honestly think that if Deron were trying to woo some studs, it could help bring people in, along wtih help the FO with his influence. Perhaps that is a tell that says Deron wants the FO to bring the team to him, not that he wants to help build it. Interesting possibility.

[hoops4life]

I am sure that they do care about competing for a title. It may not be the number one priority though.

The whole player recruitment thing is pretty new this year. I am sure it has been done in the past but never to this degree.

[Fido]

Ah....we were long overdue a knee-jerk fire somebody thread.

[Jazzfan12]

I don't really care that KO'C isn't getting studs like Turkey Glue or Okafor in trades, isn't aggressively trying sign players in a year without cap space where Drew Gooden gets the MLE, and isn't overpaying our former players. Especially since AK's contract is finally expiring so they'll have a max slot next year and since there's a new CBA next year. I am disappointed that he didn't manage to trade up for Cousins though.

[StocktonShorts]

Ah....we were long overdue a knee-jerk fire somebody thread.

Not knee-jerk at all, and I don't think I'm overreacting. I just think if I were in the Millers' shoes I'd look to make a change. I don't care how much KOC has "tried" to get things done. Results are what matter, and the results I'm seeing don't reflect particularly well on Mr. O'Connor.

[Jazzfan12]

What good moves are there to make? Making moves just to make moves leaves you as the Toronto Raptors.

[HammerDunk]

This is a rebuilding year for the Jazz. I want KOC doing the rebuilding.

[Fido]

Ah....we were long overdue a knee-jerk fire somebody thread.

Not knee-jerk at all, and I don't think I'm overreacting. I just think if I were in the Millers' shoes I'd look to make a change. I don't care how much KOC has "tried" to get things done. Results are what matter, and the results I'm seeing don't reflect particularly well on Mr. O'Connor.

Well, maybe it is more not understanding how they operate. All those in the inner circle are trusted and work together--each with their specific roles and assignments. Miller is very aware of the happenings in O'Connor's office. Much more than you. So some fan calling for the owner to fire the GM either means he doesn't believe Miller is paying attention to what is going on or doesn't believe he is on the same page as the GM. I'm not buying either one.

[hoops4life]

Results are what matter, and the results I'm seeing don't reflect particularly well on Mr. O'Connor.

We should make a list of the Pro's and Con's. What results are you talking about? The majority of the league would love to have the Jazz's success under KOC.

[kamazilla]

First of all, the talent exodus has everything to do with ownership, being that Greg Miller is new in the captains chair and seems not to have made the upward adjustment in decisiveness necessary in transitioning from the car biz to the NBA. He's holding the purse strings way too tight, and its only costing them more money and talent. Yeah, this is speculation, but O'Connor is one hell of a lot more savvy than Miller, yet Greg is the one signing the checks (begrudgingly).

Secondly, pointing out O'Connor's lack of results is anything but knee jerk reactionary. He had six fuggin years to rectify the glaringly obvious shortcomings in the Okur/Boozer frontline and failed. PERIOD. What's more, he happily signed Okur to an extension while allowing Booze to walk for nothing. Oh, wait- there is that TPE which the Jazz can use to acquire... ummm... who???

Over the past several seasons, management has failed in fielding the best team possible given their assets and their constraints. What should have been a comfortable window to build a contender closed before management could get their **** straight. It is a fans right, even responsibility, to point this out. Its interesting to observe those who seem to believe fans should make excuses for their team.

[hoops4life]

They thought that they had a chance to resign Boozer. They didn't think that the Bulls would over pay for Boozer. This exodus that you speak of is whom? Boozer, Korver (grossly overpaid), and Mathews (possibly & grossly overpaid). Who else? Some of you people can't be pleased. You are upset if they let people walk but are upset if they are overpaid. There is no winning.

[HolyToledo]

KOC may not be the problem. Ownership may simply be too cheap acquire talent. Either KOC or the Jazz ownership is the problem and looking at the end of last year when the Jazz were most concerned about getting under the luxury tax, it looks like ownership is simply cheap.

[hoops4life]

I am not sure if "cheap" is the right way to put it.

I would put it that they are more fiscally responsible.