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Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:25 pm
by HolyToledo
What is the Utah Jazz's biggest trade in their history?

1) Dominque Wilkins for Larry Drew, Freeman Williams, and $1 mil;

2) Jeff Hornacek from Philly to Utah to help them make a couple of championship runs;

3) Al Jefferson to Utah for future picks;

4) Adrian Dantley to Detroit for Kelly Tripuka;

5) Jazz trading up a couple of picks to draft DWill; and

6) Ben Hadlogten and others to Suns for the NYK pick (Hayward).

These are the biggest trades in Utah Jazz history that I can remember. As you can see there has not been too many. Wilkins trade was a killer but kept the franchise viable. Horneck and now Jefferson were both great bargains and moves at necessary times. Dantley trade had little impact. DWILL trade worked out greatly for the Utah Jazz. Getting the NYK pick ended up a little disappointing but may work out because Hayward may end up being a top 3 player of this draft.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:27 pm
by DelaneyRudd
3 picks for Deron Williams

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:35 pm
by jazzfan1971
DelaneyRudd wrote:3 picks for Deron Williams


+1

But, KOC has the 2 of the 3 top deals now. The Horny deal has to be #2 and Jefferson #3 at this point.

Jefferson has about 10 years to move up the list though.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:42 pm
by edfmx86
at this moment, nothing can top the trade that got us Deron Williams

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:50 pm
by JockRider
AJ has to do something before he can be considered for this type of list.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:52 pm
by stevebozell
The Hornacek trade, easily. That move made them an elite team. Go look at their success both in the regular season and playoffs (especially on the road) after they got him.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:56 pm
by The Sheik
I think the Hornacek deal made a franchise and the Deron deal saved a franchise. Without Hornacek we wouldn't have made the finals twice, without Williams we would be the Clippers.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:57 pm
by stevebozell
The Sheik wrote:I think the Hornacek deal made a franchise and the Deron deal saved a franchise. Without Hornacek we wouldn't have made the finals twice, without Williams we would be the Clippers.



We werent the without him when Stockton and Maloen first left.....I like Williams but he hasnt won anything yet.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:59 pm
by DelaneyRudd
And what did Hornacek win?

To quote Prof. Farnsworth in the episode The Sting, "I just made myself sad." :(

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:01 pm
by stevebozell
DelaneyRudd wrote:And what did Hornacek win?

To quote Prof. Farnsworth in the episode The Sting, "I just made myself sad." :(



They won ALOT of games with him...60 wins a few times, something Deron hasnt reached yet, as well as numerous deep playoff runs. Maybe in a few years I will change my mind, but the Hornacek trade was so obvious in bumping us to elite status I say thats #1.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:21 pm
by erudite23
I hate to agree with Steve, but this is a no brainer. The Jazz' claim to fame is that we are the best team to never win a championship, and also MJ's self-professed toughest out. That might not be the same as winning a 'chip, but its more than a ton of franchises can say. Without Hornacek, we never would have gotten to that next level, and the Stockton/Malone teams wouldn't have ever been anything measurably better than the Deron/Boozer ones. Horny wins.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:44 pm
by sendai91
If I know my facts correctly, the Dominique trade allowed the Jazz to stay financially afloat and viable as a franchise, which in turn allowed it to be bought by Larry Miller a few years later. If those assumptions are actually facts, then that's the biggest or most important trade in the franchise history in a walk.

My list:

1. Dominique
2. Horny
3. DWill ( far superior player to Horny, but Horny meant more to the team's climb to success at that time. In other words, if DWill gets us to the Finals or even the conference finals a few times, I swap the two in a hearbeat.
4. I might get skinned for this one, but I think that the Fisher trade ( for Owens, McLeod, Devin Brown) has been more meaningful in terms of the impact (WCF appearance) than the speculative impact of Hayward and Jefferson.
5. Korver for Giricek is the next trade that's had any other real impact in the last 15 years.
6. Speculative trades - Jefferson, Hayward - let's see what happens first...
7. Lots of other meaningless trades ( Keefe / Corbin, Donyell Marshall, Bailey / Brown, Hoffa / Humps, Murdock / Edwards for Humphries / Krsytowiak, lots of draft night deals - Muresepp, Podkolzine, Borchardt, Mohammed, etc..

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:24 pm
by Cavskilla431
Deron Williams is the best point guard in the league arguably...that was the jazz's best deal

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:56 pm
by McNutty
Correct me if I'm wrong (shouldn't be a problem in this forum), but didn't the Jazz trade a pick that ended up being Magic Johnson? That's a pretty big trade.

As far as players that the Jazz traded for, my vote is for the DWill trade. Huge transition for the franchise.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:03 pm
by StocktonShorts
McNutty wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong (shouldn't be a problem in this forum), but didn't the Jazz trade a pick that ended up being Magic Johnson. That's a pretty big trade.

As far as players that the Jazz traded for, my vote is for the DWill trade. Huge transition for the franchise.



(This is from memory so it may be slightly off) The Jazz signed Gail Goodrich as a FA away from the Lakers. Back in those days if you signed away a team's FA the league could award compensation to the player's former team. In this case that compensation was a draft pick that turned into the No. 1 overall, which turned into Magic Johnson.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:06 pm
by McNutty
HappyProle wrote:
McNutty wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong (shouldn't be a problem in this forum), but didn't the Jazz trade a pick that ended up being Magic Johnson. That's a pretty big trade.

As far as players that the Jazz traded for, my vote is for the DWill trade. Huge transition for the franchise.



(This is from memory so it may be slightly off) The Jazz signed Gail Goodrich as a FA away from the Lakers. Back in those days if you signed away a team's FA the league could award compensation to the player's former team. In this case that compensation was a draft pick that turned into the No. 1 overall, which turned into Magic Johnson.


That would make a lot more sense.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:15 pm
by HammerDunk
Yup, but I don't think it would have been possible for the Jazz to pick up Magic, so it's not like the Jazz missed a huge opportunity, not like Dominique. I still envision to this day, Malone, Stock, and Dominique destroying Jordan. Oh well...

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:32 pm
by erudite23
Why wouldn't it have been possible, again? He was the consensus #1 and we would have had the pick. This was way before the days in which a player could leverage a team out of picking him. Magic would have and should have been a Jazz man. I have no idea how this doesn't get more play. Its a massive swing in fortunes, and it always seems to happen for the Lakers. They had a similar deal that allowed them to get James Worthy with the #1 overall pick a couple years later.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:35 pm
by The59Sound
HammerDunk wrote:Yup, but I don't think it would have been possible for the Jazz to pick up Magic, so it's not like the Jazz missed a huge opportunity, not like Dominique. I still envision to this day, Malone, Stock, and Dominique destroying Jordan. Oh well...


The organization may not have existed (or remained in Utah, at least) without the cash from the Dominique. I recall that things were so tight, they were having employees bring in their own office supplies and, in some cases, office furniture.

Re: Biggest Trade in Utah Jazz History!!

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:19 pm
by rednecksbasketball
I have always thought the Marshall trade to be a very good one. Jazz gave up very little and got a very good player. If I recall they gave up Eisley who was leaving, Keefe who was useless, and a late first.

Another good trade was Leckner and Hasen for Jeff Malone.

But the Williams trade was the best. 3 firsts which Portland blew for a top 20 player was great.