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Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:49 am
by Sloanfeld
All of the outrage over this pick seemed to have died down completely. Are you still upset or have you bought into the pick? I know nothing about college ball so I've never had an opinion.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:54 am
by schneiderjazz
I'm not completely sold on Hayward, but I am certainly not as pissed as I was. I wanna give him a chance to see what he can do. It seems he's working hard and that's a nice start.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:28 am
by kwill
Been a jazz fan a long time and the Hayward pick will go down as one of the worst picks of all time. There will be several players selected after 9 who will have much better careers. I watched every summer league game and although he shots free throws really well, he did not change my mind.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:39 am
by The59Sound
kwill wrote: There will be several players selected after 9 who will have much better careers.
That's basically true of any player drafted around there, though.
I'm very happy with the Hayward pick. The night it happened, I thought, "What the ****?" But given the rest of the summer's acquisitions, and having seen him in summer league, I am wholeheartedly on-board.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:47 am
by DelaneyRudd
No, I got over it in a few days, and got optimistic. It's not like anyone in the draft area right after him has stood out as a huge miss amongst all the previous GMs picks. It's still early, but it looks like the picks lined up in a very standard way. Plus, now, as opposed to then the wings is where the team needs improvement, as opposed to center or PF.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:05 am
by hoops4life
I am not sure that I fully like it but there is no reason to be upset about it still. There is nothing that can be done to change it.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:09 am
by Jazzfan12
Still disappointed, but okay with it. I think Paul George and Cole Aldrich are better prospects, but I think Hayward could develop into an 18/6/3 player who's efficient and plays decent defense.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:32 am
by Utesfan
too early to say...still bugs me but not as bad
as long as he hustles and can shoot well im ok
if he can pull off a wes matthewa year ill be happy
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:27 am
by The59Sound
Jazzfan12 wrote:Still disappointed, but okay with it. I think Paul George and Cole Aldrich are better prospects, but I think Hayward could develop into an 18/6/3 player who's efficient and plays decent defense.
Wow; you think Paul and Cole will have better careers than that?
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:55 am
by HolyToledo
It was a risky pick as KOC was basically looking at possible upside. He could be Larry Bird and he can be Luke Walton. I think Mike Dunleavy Jr. comparison about right but Hayward is much better alround player than Dunleavy will ever be. The John Stockton pick was not popular when made but ended up being the Jazz greatest pick ever. Hayward will be seen as one of the Jazz top 10 picks ever when his career is over!
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:07 am
by Neon Black
I don't know how Hayward will turn out. I hope he's great.
But I know I wouldn't have picked Aldrich over him, just to say I went after a big man. Aldrich shows no more potential than he does, only time will tell for sure.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:18 am
by jazzfan1971
I was very pissed on draft night. Now I'm waiting to see him play with an open mind.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:33 am
by GP
I did not like the pick at all, but its always hard to tell if a guy is going to succeed in the NBA. Waiting to see how he plays.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:47 am
by thorian
Denial - "Oh no they didn't!"
Anger - "WTF?"
Bargaining - "Maybe there is a trade brewing."
Depression - "OMG, they did."

Acceptance - "Well... he did pretty well in the summer league."

Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 8:54 am
by Reckless
At first it was a WTF moment. Than I realized we couldn't have done any better. This draft is littered with busts and we avoided some of them and got a decent player out of it. But I still would have loved to trade up to get Cousins at #5. After that leading up to us was busts - #6 Udoh(no!), #7 Monroe(hellll no!), #8 Aminu(please god noooo!)
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:27 pm
by Leithid
As far as I was concerned, at that position it was either Hayward or Patterson, so there really wasn't anything to be upset over considering that wing ended up being a position of need for the Jazz.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:45 pm
by Gothapotamus
I would have preferred Babbitt or George, but am not wholly disappointed. I suppose it is still somewhat a wait and see. So for now I am not upset and will reserve judgment for a later date when there is more ability to form a suitable opinion.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:58 pm
by Jazzfan12
Wow; you think Paul and Cole will have better careers than that?
I said could, not that I think the odds are in his favor for becoming that level of player (Though I'm really hoping for that). And I do think George and Aldrich could have better careers that that.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:02 pm
by BarneyGumble
More disappointed that the bigs we wanted were off the board than that we drafted Hayward. Trading for Al took away that disappointment, and so I trust Jazz management made the right choice given the options available.
Re: Still upset over the Hayward pick?
Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:25 pm
by Soul Patch
I got over it. Getting Al Jefferson helped. I really wanted Aldrich though, and seeing him go to the Thunder made the draft day that much worse.