Do jazz need a 3 pt shooting Guard to stay competative?

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Do jazz need a 3 pt shooting Guard to stay competative? 

Post#1 » by Montanajazz » Mon Dec 6, 2010 4:42 am

The Jazz need a 3 point shooting 2 guard to balance out the rotation.. Bell is good at defense, but not a reliable shooter. Miles is an on and off shooter and, better on defense, but not good enough. The rookie is not ready yet! Tradables are Miles, Haywood, Price or Fesenko, With Okur comming back. We need Okur's inside/outside and Bells defense and leadership!
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Post#2 » by OC Jazzfan » Mon Dec 6, 2010 5:37 am

I've been fairly disappointed in Bell's shooting thus far. I seem to remember him being a better shooter than he's shown. He's been getting a lot of good looks but doesn't seem to be able to knock them down consistently. He does bring defense and leadership to the table though.

Personally, I do think the Jazz need to have a shooting guard in the rotation who can shoot a good percentage on a consistent basis, especially from 3pt range. It may get me roasted, but IMO, Miles is pretty much a hucker. Great when he's hot, not so great when he's not. But you can pretty much count on ball movement stopping when the ball finds its way into Miles' hands. The guy never met a shot he didn't want to make sweet love to.

I'm hoping Bell's shots start dropping. I don't see any sort've major trade this season (nor do I necessarily want one.)
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Post#3 » by Neon Black » Mon Dec 6, 2010 7:12 am

Yeah Miles is streaky.

It seems to me like Bell's shot has progressively improved, but honestly he doesn't actually get as many good looks as I had hoped. I'm not sure how spry he is anymore when it comes to moving off the ball and getting open.

Okur will help as a shooting threat, but you've got to remember that he is either on or very off as well.


So yeah, to answer the question, I think we could definitely use a CONSISTENT 3pt threat at the 2 or 3 spot. Especially someone that can create their own shot....even just coming off the bench. Dallas effectively shut down all the movement in our offense on Friday, making it almost impossible to get any decent looks. Hence Deron's repeatedly pushing it inside to Millsap, who sort of struggled.
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Post#4 » by Reckless » Mon Dec 6, 2010 7:40 am

I thought that's what we payed Bell for
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Post#5 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Mon Dec 6, 2010 2:57 pm

ut_jazz wrote:I thought that's what we payed Bell for
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Post#6 » by GP » Mon Dec 6, 2010 8:22 pm

ut_jazz wrote:I thought that's what we payed Bell for


True, I think the shots will start falling. He has brought defensive intensity, which I feel we need more. I think when memo comes back we'll have enough outside shooting.
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Post#7 » by jazzed77 » Mon Dec 6, 2010 9:51 pm

It seems Bell's jumper is becoming more effective as of late
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Post#8 » by Wolverine » Mon Dec 6, 2010 11:10 pm

Until we start shooting 3's consistently the Zone will be our achilles
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Post#9 » by countrybama24 » Mon Dec 6, 2010 11:28 pm

Give the young kids some run this year and sign a SG with the MLE next year, or find some more late 1st round draft picks to take some fliers on a guard. We won't get anything we're looking for with our current assets (outside of AK and maybe some picks).

I always liked jay-rich, but he's probably too expensive for the FOs tastes.
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Post#10 » by nguyenbalong » Tue Dec 7, 2010 1:11 am

Umm we have an out side shooter hes coming back in a couple of weeks. Why rent one for a week. Im sure we will survive for the time being. We lost to a great hot team it wasn't our shooting that killed us it was the lack of penetration coupled with great defense that forced us to hold on to the ball to the last second making us take bad shots. We are 3rd best in the west that's pretty good.
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Post#11 » by gojazzmjsucks » Tue Dec 7, 2010 1:38 am

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Post#12 » by gojazzmjsucks » Tue Dec 7, 2010 1:40 am

How about a 7 foot center that can hit 3s? Maybe we will get one under our Christmas Tree!
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Post#13 » by Neon Black » Tue Dec 7, 2010 5:56 am

I wasn't saying we should "rent" one or trade for one this season, just that having one more consistent shooting threat...not at the center position...would really help this team out. Maybe an off-season move to consider, if anything is available.
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Post#14 » by jatzz » Tue Dec 7, 2010 1:31 pm

hayward can make treys! white man can shot! let him play more
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Post#15 » by carrottop12 » Tue Dec 7, 2010 1:34 pm

jatzz wrote:white man can shot!


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Post#16 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Dec 7, 2010 6:44 pm

I hear about his ability to shoot, but, I haven't seen it much. Reminds me a bit of Morris Almond. I kept hearing about his shot, how good his form was, how well he shot in practice or college.

But, I never saw it on the floor. And that's kinda where it matters.
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Post#17 » by gojazzmjsucks » Tue Dec 7, 2010 10:03 pm

Hayward is completely changing his body right now to become an NBA player. Being heavy and having more muscle changes the way a player is on the floor. Next year will be Haywards year. I think he needs to sit on that bench this year and learn. Evans however i think will be better if he stays the body type he is. He can just be a spark off the bench. I'm ok with him making a career of that! He can be our Birdman.
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Re: Do jazz need a 3 pt shooting Guard to stay competative? 

Post#18 » by d-will8 » Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:07 pm

I'm not going to argue that we couldn't use more three point shooting, but Bell is coming around. In his last ten games he's shooting 48% from the field (36-75) and 48% from three (13-27). I can definitely live with those numbers. He probably won't continue to shoot nearly that well, but he's now shooting 36% from three for the season after a horrible start and I think that percentage will continue to rise. This team will never be confused for Phoenix or Orlando, but I think we'll have more than enough outside shooting to stay competitive once Memo gets back.
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Post#19 » by jazzfan1971 » Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:09 pm

I think we should send Hayward down to the D-league.
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Re: Do jazz need a 3 pt shooting Guard to stay competative? 

Post#20 » by Wolverine » Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:06 pm

I still think Rudy would be great if he could be had for nothing

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