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I never thought I would say this bc I am his hugest fan but it may be time to trade AK-47 if we want to try to wn it all this year. We need a better consistent shooter at the SF position. I would truly consider a one year rental of Carmelo Anthony. I know he wouldnt resign with the Jazz after this season. Of the course, the real issue to get Nuggets to do it is to add young talent (Hayward). Other possibilities are below:

Ak-47/Hayward for Melo (1 year rental)
Jamison + filler for Ak-47 and future pick
Iggy for Ak-47 and future pick
Prince combination trade

Nuggets LOL, and if you think any of those guys will fit in better with the Jazz lineup, your insane. AK has been doing fine. Wait for Okur to get back.

Raps for Peja?

- We got zero chance on Melo.
- No thanks to Tawn
- Iggy, other than athleticism and some good scoring I'm not sure what else he brings to the table.
-Haven't watched a Pistons game in 3 years so I'm not sure how Tay is lately.

Kirilenko was pathetic last night on the defensive end but give him some credit for playing under the rim offensively. He was our only guy who attacked the basket in the 2nd half. He's been pretty bad the last few games but overall he's having a good season.

Also, Kirilenko's not the only Jazz that's struggling. Deron hasn't play 4 quarters of good basketball all season long. Millsap and Jefferson aren't grabbing rebounds like they should be. Jefferson's great offensively though, so I guess he gets a pass but Millsap needs to be the clean up man. Crashing the glass is his job now, he needs to do that better. I don't need to explain Miles' inconsistency.

Honestly, we're very lucky to have 16 wins the way we've been playing. We were having terrible first halves earlier and now we're having terrible second halves (Dallas and Miami loses).

Our guys gotta learn how to play 4 quarters of good basketball.

seejaydeja wrote:Nuggets LOL, and if you think any of those guys will fit in better with the Jazz lineup, your insane. AK has been doing fine. Wait for Okur to get back.

I know we will be fine and likely win the division and be a 2-4 seed in the west but is the team as situated good enough to beat the Lakers, Mavs, Okla City, and Spurs in a 7 games series. I would have say clearly we are not good enough to beat them 2 series in a row mainly because of inconsistent outside shooting from AK-47 and Raja. We need at least one consistent shooter from that position who when open is basically automatic.

So if the Jazz are happy with a small playoff run and maybe 2nd round or even west championship and out, then you stay status quo. If you really want to win it all, you take on another contract for AK-47's expiring contract or rent a talented player like Melo.

Ask yourself, if we had Melo playing on the current team plus Memo minus AK-47 and Hayward would we be substantially better this year and the answer is clearly yes.

^^^As a Syracuse Orange fan, I'd love to see Melo with a Jazz jersey but I just don't see how Denver would trade him for Kirilenko + a draft pick or Hayward. Also factoring in being the division rivals part.

In regards to Melo's next team, I can only see NYC and Chi-town as his destination. Not sure if he's gone this season or next.

Overreact much? AK has had a very solid season thus far, with a handful of bad games against premier wing players. Keeping him around for the hometown discount is the best move the Jazz can make this season. They aren't going to match his salary for anyone.

Iguodala got a lot of credit with the national team for his defense. I was surprised to see that he's averaged over five assists per game the last three years. He also seems to rebound well. In some ways he's similar to AK in that he seems to be a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none. Unlike AK, he's only missed six games in his career.

I still don't like the length and sum of his contract, but it's very possible he'd be an upgrade over AK.

Well, for Melo it would be great. But if the Nuggets are gonna trade him, I think they can get better players. The other options aren't good. AK is a good player... but of course, he ain't an all-star like Melo.

Twan is really old! Can't believe u'd make that trade. And the same goes for Prince.

MCVince wrote:Twan is really old! Can't believe u'd make that trade. And the same goes for Prince.

I don't think most people here would make either of those trades.

HammerDunk wrote:Overreact much? AK has had a very solid season thus far, with a handful of bad games against premier wing players. Keeping him around for the hometown discount is the best move the Jazz can make this season. They aren't going to match his salary for anyone.

Hometown discount? You do realize he's making almost 18 million dollars this season right??

And those "premier" wing players are on teams that we are going to need to beat if we want to win a championship which is the goal of this franchise isn't it? Keeping him on the books just to beat the teams we should beat then have a liability against the teams we MUST beat is stupid. This franchise needs to realize they have a very talented team that's meshing well together and we need to make adjustments.

Last night I repeatedly watched Lebron sag off Kirilenko because the Heat knew he wasn't a reliable shooter. The Lakers did the same thing to Ronnie Brewer. Kirilenko is a great player, but in the role we're requiring him to play, he's a liability on this team against the premiere teams.

I'm still very intrigued by the Iggy trade but I can't imagine we would get ourselves stuck with another big contract like his...especially with the lockout looming. I'm a huge fan of Iggy though...I think he is one of the better fits/options out there for us. All depends on how much it would cost us to get him...

CarrKeefe wrote:

HammerDunk wrote:Overreact much? AK has had a very solid season thus far, with a handful of bad games against premier wing players. Keeping him around for the hometown discount is the best move the Jazz can make this season. They aren't going to match his salary for anyone.

Hometown discount? You do realize he's making almost 18 million dollars this season right??

I think he was referring to resigning him at a low rate next season.

ele.ven wrote:

CarrKeefe wrote:

HammerDunk wrote:Overreact much? AK has had a very solid season thus far, with a handful of bad games against premier wing players. Keeping him around for the hometown discount is the best move the Jazz can make this season. They aren't going to match his salary for anyone.

Hometown discount? You do realize he's making almost 18 million dollars this season right??

I think he was referring to resigning him at a low rate next season.

Even still, the Jazz need to stop thinking about what next season will look like. That's what the off-season is for while other team are trying to win a championship. We need to make in-season changes before the all-star break that can fix weaknesses that could potentially put us over the top. In my opinion, this is the team that has the strongest chance of contending since Stockton and Malone if we can add an athletic shooter. One that the other team has to guard, and one who had the dribbling capability to drive the lane and take it to the hoop or go to the foul line.

Sorry but we are in building mode not rebuilding but building. An AK trade will not get us any peice that will put us into championship level this year. There is just not anyone at that skill level available.

Quick, let's do whatever Dallas would do in this situation, that will solve things! The Jazz only stay competitive because they DO think about the next season.

You guys are starting to think the Jazz have nothing but buckets of money to spend on this team. Don't let these last few years fool you, there is no way they can add an expensive wing like Iggy to the team without stripping out more players than would be healthy.

You honestly think I thought 18 mil was a hometown discount? Sheesh, just think before you post... Andre has said this year that he really wants to stay in Utah. I don't know if he will stay with us for cheap, but it's worth a shot. He would be a bargain around 5-7 mil. He has played a lot better than you are giving him credit for. I wish Deron would have hit him with some more passes while Lebron was sagging off him, he would have made some 3s.

from one of the insane Bucks fans who would deal Bogut what would you guys give up and take on in salary to make a run at a championship?

Bogut/Gooden/Maggette/Boykins

for

AK/Miles/Hayward/Fesenko/2012 first

thoughts?

More Bang For The Bucks wrote:from one of the insane Bucks fans who would deal Bogut what would you guys give up and take on in salary to make a run at a championship?

Bogut/Gooden/Maggette/Boykins

for

AK/Miles/Hayward/Fesenko/2012 first

thoughts?

Yes!!! Where do we sign! Millsap becomes our 6th man and Maggette our 7th man off the bench. Bucks would NEVER do this trade.

That trade really unbalances the Jazz's roster. They'd end up with:

C: Okur, Bogut, Elson
PF: Jefferson, Millsap, Gooden
SF: Jeremy Evans (!)
SG: Raja Bell, Corey Maggette, Ronnie Price
PG: Deron Williams, Earl Watson, Earl Boykins

That just doesn't make sense.

I believe that Maggette could play sf but it really does leave a bigger hole on the wing and Gooden and Maggette earn a ton of money.