Karl Malone an Assistant?

MeestR · Post #1 » by **MeestR** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:35 pm

via twitter. nothing official. but definitely talk-worthy.
http://twitter.com/#!/slcdunk/status/43072160339734528

LjJazzman · Post #2 » by **LjJazzman** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:52 pm

I sure hope this is true.

Post #3 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:53 pm

Just this year. I want Boylen fired by the U and hired by the Jazz. He's a big man coach. Coaches are coaches, they need to be, you know.... talented at dealing with people.

yonexpro1 · Post #4 » by **yonexpro1** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:21 pm

If this is true, I should confront KOC more often. I ran into him a few days before allstar break and let him know about dwont and I want malone LMAO. He is kinda a dick but hey he took time out to have a brief jokingly conversation.

yonexpro1 · Post #5 » by **yonexpro1** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:23 pm

Now that I think about it, it will just be to announce that Ty is gonna be coach for X amount of years.

Ming Kong! · Post #6 » by **Ming Kong!** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:41 pm

Favors has received upgrades.

MeestR · Post #7 » by **MeestR** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:53 pm

what can karl do, though, to coach up fes, evans, and favors or even jefferson, okur, and millsap? the things that made him great was his competitiveness and work ethic. can karl malone really communicate effectively the skills that can be taught to other professionals?

yonexpro1 · Post #8 » by **yonexpro1** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:03 am

MeestR wrote:what can karl do, though, to coach up fes, evans, and favors or even jefferson, okur, and millsap? the things that made him great was his competitiveness and work ethic. can karl malone really communicate effectively the skills that can be taught to other professionals?

Well if favors could get malones body, that would be enough for me.

But Malone is the type of guy who worked hard to develop. He couldnt shoot etc. and he turned his career around.

Bullet · Post #9 » by **Bullet** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:04 am

He played in Sloan's system for 18 (?) years. That warrants him a shot IMO. He can teach positioning and openings from a big man's perspective-- from someone who actually played in the system.

CarrKeefe · Post #10 » by **CarrKeefe** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:11 am

MeestR wrote:what can karl do, though, to coach up fes, evans, and favors or even jefferson, okur, and millsap? the things that made him great was his competitiveness and work ethic. can karl malone really communicate effectively the skills that can be taught to other professionals?

LOL. You totally forgot about Favors. Malone coaching Favors and Al is what this is all about. Huge. Can you imagine in five years a Malone coached Al and Favors??

yonexpro1 · Post #11 » by **yonexpro1** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:15 am

yonexpro1 wrote:Now that I think about it, it will just be to announce that Ty is gonna be coach for X amount of years.

I called my own quote, Only the jazz have stupid reasons to have "major" announcements.

retiredcoach · Post #12 » by **retiredcoach** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:39 am

Karl Malone as a Jazz coach?

Malone has zero coaching experience and he does not seem to have either the teaching ability or temperament to be a coach.

Here's how Karl gets to coach. He gives his buddy Kerry Rupp $350K for a new basketball floor and before that he bought them a new weight room. Rupp could use some help. His team is 12-18 and 2-12 in the WAC. Ouch!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2888007

What exactly is a Basketball Promotions Coach? Oh, Karl is also the assistant strength and conditioning coach which means he gets to work out in the weight room and pick up the weights other people leave lying around!

Then of course there's the issue of Karl's good judgment.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketba ... a-dumpster

What he is going to do when the Laker's come to town--steal their uniforms?

Here's another small judgment problem. I thought in Utah they put people in jail for this stuff!

http://www.aolnews.com/2008/04/30/repor ... n-karl-ma/

There are a lot of "good" big men coaches out there and Karl ain't one of them. If Karl wants to buy the Jazz a 7 foot defensive center from anywhere in the world and donate him to the Jazz, then I think Karl should be an assistant strength coach for the Jazz.

Every time Karl has sump'n to say, I listen. It's good entertainment, but I don't confuse his ability to play with his ability to teach others to play. Karl is an icon, he's a larger than life character that was lucky he was playing for the Jazz and not serving time. I really enjoyed watching Karl play, but I didn't ask him for financial advice, business help or to serve as a role model for my kids.

I know there's a lot of fans who'll disagree with what I said. No problem. They're not in the Jazz's FO.

If the Jazz want somebody from La Tech, Hall of Fame coach Leon Barmore probably would take a job even though he's 66. His record was 576 wins 87 losses (.869). That's the best winning percentage in the history of basketball.

Post #13 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:51 am

retiredcoach wrote:
Here's another small judgment problem. I thought in Utah they put people in jail for this stuff!

If they aren't married first, yes.

Narcist · Post #14 » by **Narcist** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:01 am

this is not happening as much as i want to. The guy was asking a question about some front office movement and basically it was corbin getting an extension.

MeestR · Post #15 » by **MeestR** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:53 am

CarrKeefe wrote:
MeestR wrote:what can karl do, though, to coach up fes, evans, and favors or even jefferson, okur, and millsap? the things that made him great was his competitiveness and work ethic. can karl malone really communicate effectively the skills that can be taught to other professionals?

LOL. You totally forgot about Favors. Malone coaching Favors and Al is what this is all about. Huge. Can you imagine in five years a Malone coached Al and Favors??

what can karl do, though, to coach up fes, evans, and favors or even jefferson, okur, and millsap?

anyway, how well can karl COACH? he can barely communicate effectively on tv. he talks circles on the radio. no one doubts his competitiveness or his drive, or even his example. but i imagine it would take living with him to understand how he became so great. i don't think his coaching might do it.

but as a part time assistant, like horny was last year, i might be able to come to terms with. but full time assistant? those coaches have scouting and paper work and junk to do. they need to communicate those things with the players and other coaches.

kebutah · Post #16 » by **kebutah** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:42 pm

Malone worked with Ostertag and that training went very well?

CarrKeefe · Post #17 » by **CarrKeefe** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:48 pm

kebutah wrote:Malone worked with Ostertag and that training went very well?

Oh because Ostertag's abilities and potential were TOTALLY equivalent to that of Favors potential....

:roll:

-1000

carrottop12 · Post #18 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:21 pm

I'm all for Malone coming into help.

For one, he would command respect for the coaches in the locker room. While a lot of these guys may not give a damn about Jeff Hornacek, Ty Corbin or Scott Layden, Karl Malone has a whole different presence in a locker room. If Karl is listening to the other coaches, you better be listening to the other coaches.

Also, it isn't like Malone dominated only because of his superior body, he had a very complete offensive game, and knew all the tricks on defense. He could teach Favors a lot of things.

retiredcoach · Post #19 » by **retiredcoach** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 12:15 am

Karl has given over a half mil to the basketball department at LA Tech. Rupp hasn't given Karl an assistant coach position at Tech during the 4 years Rupp has been there, and Rupp needs more help than the Jazz do. Rupp's known Karl for years and likes him. He met him when he was working for Majerus at the U.

All he's given Karl for the money is the title of Basketball Promotions coach. Do you think Karl hasn't ask Rupp to put him on the staff?

There's a reason Rupp hasn't added Karl and his wallet to the coaching staff, and the Jazz would be wise to follow Rupp's approach.

Post #20 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 12:20 am

Bat wrote:I'm all for Malone coming into help.

For one, he would command respect for the coaches in the locker room. While a lot of these guys may not give a damn about Jeff Hornacek, Ty Corbin or Scott Layden, Karl Malone has a whole different presence in a locker room. If Karl is listening to the other coaches, you better be listening to the other coaches.

Even IF Karl had shown any aptitude for coaching/teaching (he hasn't) I'm not sure how the whole Karl/Ty Corbin thing would work. You think Karl would kowtow to a guy who was a role player on the Jazz during Karl's prime?