Utah Jazz Roster: Who would you keep?

[FJS]

Centers:

Mehmet Okur, 5/26/79
4.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.5 apg

Al Jefferson 1/4/85
19 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 1,7 apg, 2,0 bpg

Francisco Elson 2/28/76
2.2 ppg, 2,3 rpg

Kyrylo Fessenko 12/24/86
2 ppg, 2 rpg

Power Fowards:

Paul Millsap 2/10/85
16.9 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1,4 spg

Derrick Favors 7/15/91
8.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 bpg

Jeremy Evans 10/24/87
3.6 ppg, 1.8 rpg

Small Fowards

Andrei Kirilenko 2/18/81
12 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1,3 spg, 1.2 bpg

Gordon Hayward 3/23/90
3.8 ppg 1.8 rpg

Shooting Guards
CJ Miles 3/18/87
13 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.7 apg, 1 spg

Raja Bell 9/19/76
8.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.7 apg

Point guards
Devin Harris 2/27/83
15.9 ppg 2.6 rpg 5.7 apg

Earl Watson 6/12/79
3.7 ppg, 2 rpg, 3.3 apg

Ronnie Price 6/21/83
3.1 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.8 apg

[Neon Black]

I want the Jazz to let go of:

Elson
Bell
AK
Memo
Price
Fes

and possibly CJ, depending on a few things.

Keep everyone else around.

[hoops4life]

Depends on the price of AK and CJ. Those under contract are going to be difficult to get rid of. It also depends who else is on the market at the time.

[DelaneyRudd]

Who's coming in to replace them? I mean, I'd rather have Raja as a twelfth man than Eddy Curry.

[Neon Black]

I was answering in the long-term, don't know how the question was intended though.

[Matt007b]

Keep (in no order)...I'll probably get yelled at but this is only my opinion...

J. Evans (needs weight/strength!)
D. Favors (needs time)
K. Fesenko (not being used correctly..there is hope since our system is in a funk)
D. Harris (no question - no touchy)
G. Hayward (getting better and shooting better)
A. Jefferson (pick and roll went out the window..now playing well..RIP Jazz system)
A.K.(depends on $$..)
P. Milsap (no question..awesome contract do not touch..)
M. Okur (we're stuck but he can come back and shoot unlike anyone else..if he comes back)
E. Watson (at times better than Harris, sure lock back up, draft in other positions now)

Let go..trade..bye..

Raja Bell (we're stuck with him but his contract is decent..trade bait..) if only he could shoot..

Fransico Elson (I like his shooting.. if he had minutes I would be more happy but ..eh...it's him or Fesenko...Fesenko has size vs. big centers..fesenko improved..Elson just didn't get much of a chance honestly.)

CJ (even though he went nuts and shot well a few days ago, he's still a shoot 3 randomly player.. showing signs of life but one game doesn't erase a season of shooting wacko timed shots)

Ronnie Price (don't need him, don't use him.. even though he has energy ..a draft pick here to replace him)

I think needs for sure is a shooting guard/small forward with Bell/CJ and who knows what gonna happen with AK but an AK backup.

[DelaneyRudd]

Yeah, we overrate Jeremy Evans so much. He's fun and a good kid though.

[Neon Black]

Yeah, we overrate Jeremy Evans so much. He's fun and a good kid though.

I don't expect Evans to ever be a superstar. But what all championship teams have is solid, high energy, high efficiency role players off the bench. Evans plays a unique role that could supplement a strong core of players. He's not a guy you just let go of, but you have to be careful to not overpay when he becomes a FA.

[Millsap24]

PG: Harris1, Watson2(maybe if we can't get a better scoring back-up PG)
SG: Miles3(maybe) and Hayward4
SF: Kirilenko5(hopefully he's cheap), Hayward* and Evans6(very cheap contract)
PF: Millsap7 and Favors8
C: Jefferson9, Okur10 and Favors*

Room for 5-8 if we keep Watson or Miles and if Kirilenko returns.

[Fido]

I think it is easier to say those who I don't see coming back:
- Fesenko - He has never really improved in what, 3 years? He will show flashes in a few games but commit way too many fouls to ever stay in a game very long. I don't see much in the way of a future.
- Price - With Harris and Watson beating him out for a spot I think Price could certainly go depending on who the Jazz end up with in the offseason.
- Bell - I wish the team could move him along but I don't think they can. With his injury filled last season and doing nothing to make him a big attraction this offseason, makes the next 2 years of his deal hard to move.
- Elson - He did okay in a limited role but injuries have kept him out of late. Losing him doesn't kill the team and if he stays doesn't hurt too badly either.

I'd actually like to see AK stay but at $5-6 million. He is injured far too frequently and has been far too compensated for the past 3 years or so. If not you have to look at opening that up to whoever else might be available.

[BringtheD]

keepers
harris- he is the complete package just needs to get his confidence and time to make chemistry, but many teams would love to have him, i'm glad hes on the jazz and i keep him.
evans-like has been said, high effeciency role player, high energy, blue collar, rookie who can create chemistry, i like him alot, keeper.
favors-keeper, he needs to grow a mustache to complete the appereance that he will be the next mailman, he looks like he is on his way, pysched, youngest player in the league, love his attitude want to see him succeed and keeping fingers crossed that he's as tough as malone was too.
hayward-he just needs to work on his outside shot and he is a keeper.
big al-it is hard to find a center, his play recently has been a revelation.
miles-he is stepping into the starting role nicely, and the option for next year makes it a low risk high reward situation, it can easily turn into a high reward situation.
watson-if he wants to come back i resign him in a second, i roll out the red carpet in fact, what a great pickup at the backup pg spot, considering this is the jazz and he is one of the better backup pgs.

question marks, i don't see the jazz keeping both millsap and ak47, i'm not a fan of shortstuff, but i do think he could make it work off the bench, but it makes no sense to have him starting and if the jazz can resign ak47 at a discount i like ak47 better both in the starting lineup with favors and jefferson, and also as the reserve big man off the bench. the only reason i don't trade millsap is the legacy he has of playing at lousiana tech, as much as i revere malone, that is the only reason i don't trade millsap out of loyalty, other than that i'm not a fan.

as for fesenko-he hasn't gotten any better since he first came, but he is a third string center and again, low risk high reward, but i don't think we'll ever see the high reward with him, even though, you need a third string center and his size is nice, so i keep him around but if someone wants to steal him away i'm not going to pay more than the minimum for his talent-potential.

too much to go through every player, the biggest concern is the millsap/ak47, i say get rid of millsap who still has value, until people see what an apathetic defender rebounder hes become then we are stuck with him like okur
and i will find it hard to keep the faith.

[StocktonShorts]

keepers
harris- he is the complete package

It's almost embarrassing that any Jazz fan could have such a high opinion of Harris. Of all the fans in the NBA, you'd think Jazz fans would know good point guard play when they see it. (Edit: and we're not seeing it with Harris)

hayward-he just needs to work on his outside shot and he is a keeper.

I'd argue that's the one part of his game that apparently doesn't need much work. He's shooting the ball very well from deep.

[Litany]

keepers
harris- he is the complete package

It's almost embarrassing that any Jazz fan could have such a high opinion of Harris. Of all the fans in the NBA, you'd think Jazz fans would know good point guard play when they see it.

hayward-he just needs to work on his outside shot and he is a keeper.

I'd argue that's the one part of his game that apparently doesn't need much work. He's shooting the ball very well from deep.

Hayward is 18/36 from the three point line in the last several months. 50% from three is pretty dang good.

[BringtheD]

keepers
harris- he is the complete package

It's almost embarrassing that any Jazz fan could have such a high opinion of Harris. Of all the fans in the NBA, you'd think Jazz fans would know good point guard play when they see it. (Edit: and we're not seeing it with Harris)

hayward-he just needs to work on his outside shot and he is a keeper.

I'd argue that's the one part of his game that apparently doesn't need much work. He's shooting the ball very well from deep.

what's embarassing is that any jazz fan would be so short sighted as to trash talk him and think a rookie is going to be better. u talk about knowing good pt guard play, you are so worried harris is not john stockton you wouldn't know good pg guard play if it slapped you in the face.

and if you think hayward's outside shot is dialed in, i don't, if sloan or corbin had more confidence in haywards shot then he'd be playing more, i didn't realize he was shooting a high percentage since he rarely shoots because he needs about 3 seconds to get his shot off, that's all, i think that can improve.

[The59Sound]

Hayward doesn't have any skills in dire need of "development" (i.e. non-existent or in their nascent stages). Obviously he needs to keep improving and be consistent to reach his potential, but I think that's largely going to come when he gets consistent minutes day-in and day-out, allowing him to get comfortable on the floor.

[The59Sound]

and if you think hayward's outside shot is dialed in, i don't, if sloan or corbin had more confidence in haywards shot then he'd be playing more, i didn't realize he was shooting a high percentage since he rarely shoots because he needs about 3 seconds to get his shot off, that's all, i think that can improve.

I don't quite understand this. The numbers show that his outside shot is dialed in. And that's a separate issue from the contention that he takes too long to get into his jump-shot (not something I can ever remember thinking). I do agree he sometimes passes on them when he shouldn't.

Re: The Bold

Are you saying Hayward's playing less, and Bell more, because Corbin has more confidence in Bell's outside shot?

[BringtheD]

and if you think hayward's outside shot is dialed in, i don't, if sloan or corbin had more confidence in haywards shot then he'd be playing more, i didn't realize he was shooting a high percentage since he rarely shoots because he needs about 3 seconds to get his shot off, that's all, i think that can improve.

I don't quite understand this. The numbers show that his outside shot is dialed in. And that's a separate issue from the contention that he takes too long to get into his jump-shot (not something I can ever remember thinking). I do agree he sometimes passes on them when he shouldn't.

Re: The Bold

Are you saying Hayward's playing less, and Bell more, because Corbin has more confidence in Bell's outside shot?

"I don't quite understand this. The numbers show that his outside shot is dialed in. And that's a separate issue from the contention that he takes too long to get into his jump-shot (not something I can ever remember thinking). I do agree he sometimes passes on them when he shouldn't.", well then, go ahead and notice, ever wonder why he's passing up so many shots, if he's going to be a keeper he needs to work on all those shooting mechanics, from timing as well as i think his form needs improvement too, he is only a rookie and i was saying not keep his in so much as just next year but if he's really going to be part of the core then he has to work on his shot, do you disagree?

[The59Sound]

He needs to work on his shot the same as any player needs to work on their shot, but no, I don't at all agree that it's a deficiency in his game. His mechanics are good.

I just don't think it makes sense to say a rookie who gets inconsistent minutes, but has been hitting a great percentage on his jumpers, is hesitant taking them because he needs to improve his mechanics. The hesitance is 100% a mental issue (i.e. he's not comfortable putting them up all the time because he perceives it as selfish or is worried he'll be pulled, like he has been all season for no reason), not an issue of his form.

[BringtheD]

He needs to work on his shot the same as any player needs to work on their shot, but no, I don't at all agree that it's a deficiency in his game. His mechanics are good.

I just don't think it makes sense to say a rookie who gets inconsistent minutes, but has been hitting a great percentage on his jumpers, is hesitant taking them because he needs to improve his mechanics. The hesitance is 100% a mental issue (i.e. he's not comfortable putting them up all the time because he perceives it as selfish or is worried he'll be pulled, like he has been all season for no reason), not an issue of his form.

that's part of mechanics, he's not mentally prepared to be a catch and shoot player, he needs to get his timing quicker that is why he is passing up shots, he's not mentally prepared, so in one sense you're right, and you are also right that there is nothing like experience, but physically he isn't prepared as well to gather himself for his shot and do everything to get it off, so he is passing it up, he is that smart, which is an epiphany, so he must be smart enough to get all those mechanics down too.

[BringtheD]

i guess you could say that i think he needs to prove he can be a catch and shoot player before he is a keeper.