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Biyombo

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:00 pm
by Neon Black
"The way I play here, I play everywhere,'' he said following the Hoop Summit. "In the ACB I play with a lot of smart guys, I play with a lot of strong guys, and when I step on the court I just want to kill them.''

"I want to (play) defense as a team. I want to help everybody on my team and I want to win the game ... That's what I heard from my first coach, that the good offense is defense. If I block a lot of shots then it's good offense. If I get a lot of rebounds, then it's good offense.''


This guy is intense. Aside from his triple-double with 10 blocks in the hoops summit, scouts are saying he's too focused and hard working, especially defensively, to not be successful. He's a big, athletic beast, but I think the Jazz should seriously consider him due to his infectious winning mentality and leadership skills alone.

You think he could go top 10?

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:04 pm
by babyjax13
That interview is intriuging. I wouldn't mind seeing him at 12 and hoping him and Favors could develop into something special in the post. It would pretty much ensure that Millsap and/or Jefferson would be on the way out (Unless Millsap can become a full-time small forward).

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:11 pm
by Jazzfan12
I wouldn't mind him at #12 as long as he's 21 or younger.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:02 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
After reading up on this guy, and depending who we get with the Nets pick, I would love to take Biyombo! Guy sounds like a beast and his 7' 7" wingspan is just plain insane.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:20 pm
by DelaneyRudd
Is he 100% raw or has he shown more skills than your average prospect from Africa?

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:58 pm
by UTJazzFan_Echo1
I made a post about him roughly a week ago as a guy the Jazz might look at taking with their own lottery pick. From what I know of him, he is pretty raw offensively but has an amazing NBA body/athleticism, has huge up-side, rebounds/blocks shots/plays defense/runs the floor very well and plays his guts out every time he is on the floor. If he really does all of that as well as everyone is making it sound than I think he is worth a lottery pick despite his limited offense.

Also, he grew up watching the Jazz and more specifically Karl Malone with his dad.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:10 pm
by The59Sound
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:I made a post about him roughly a week ago as a guy the Jazz might look at taking with their own lottery pick. From what I know of him, he is pretty raw offensively but has an amazing NBA body/athleticism, has huge up-side, rebounds/blocks shots/plays defense/runs the floor very well and plays his guts out every time he is on the floor. If he really does all of that as well as everyone is making it sound than I think he is worth a lottery pick despite his limited offense.

Also, he grew up watching the Jazz and more specifically Karl Malone with his dad.


It would actually be preferable to bring in a guy that's not offensive-minded, since defense and rebounding are a deficiency and our front-line guys are very focused on scoring.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:22 pm
by UTJazzFan_Echo1
The59Sound wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:I made a post about him roughly a week ago as a guy the Jazz might look at taking with their own lottery pick. From what I know of him, he is pretty raw offensively but has an amazing NBA body/athleticism, has huge up-side, rebounds/blocks shots/plays defense/runs the floor very well and plays his guts out every time he is on the floor. If he really does all of that as well as everyone is making it sound than I think he is worth a lottery pick despite his limited offense.

Also, he grew up watching the Jazz and more specifically Karl Malone with his dad.


It would actually be preferable to bring in a guy that's not offensive-minded, since defense and rebounding are a deficiency and our front-line guys are very focused on scoring.

Very true.

The one thing I worry about with him though is where is he going to fit into the rotation? I can't see him taking minutes away from Favors, Millsap or Jefferson if he can't score. The only place I could see him getting some burn is at the back-up 3 spot (he would be much like Millsap next season) but he can't shoot so that still creates a problem in rotations and that's without considering AK or CJ and if both or either of them come back.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm very intrigued by the guy. We need a glue type player and someone who is going to bring lots of intensity and effort every night, I'm just not sure how he would best be utilized on our team as it stands right now.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:27 pm
by The59Sound
Yeah, you're probably right about that. If Millsap stays at PF, there's not a lot of minutes available at the 4. Can never hurt to have depth, though, and a draft pick (or current player) can always be moved to clear the log-jam later on.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:37 pm
by phrizzo
This guy is getting a lot of hype right now and I'm betting that as soon as teams start working players out, he is going to move way up in the lottery. Seems like another Favors-type where he gets drafted on his athleticism and upside. Furthermore, if we want to make space in the rotation, someone would probably have to get traded (Jefferson or Millsap) and considering one of our biggest needs is wing scoring, trading away either of our starting frontcourt would leave us with very few offensive options. I love what I'm hearing about this kid but unless we trade him for a wing player on draft day, I don't see much point in drafting him.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:55 pm
by MeestR
Dribbles

One big question about big man Biyambo

It was the question at the Nike Hoop Summit in Portland this weekend.

Just how old is Bismack Biyambo?

While almost two dozen players who said they'd be at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament in Virginia pulled out at the last minute ("60 future USBL players," one general manager texted Sunday night), the Hoop Summit showcased a handful of potential first-round picks from the international select team that lost to the U.S. junior select squad Saturday.

Chief among them was Biyambo, who posted a triple-double Saturday with 12 points, 11 rebounds and 10 blocked shots. At 6-foot-9 and 243 pounds with an incredible 7-foot-7 wing span, Biyambo, from the Democratic Republic of Congo, has exploded onto the international basketball scene in two short years. He played this year for Europe's top league, ACB, in Spain, for Fuenlabrada. (Former Nuggets first-rounder Nikoloz Tskitishvili played for Fuenlabrada last season.)

But how old is he?

Biyombo says he's 18, but as Sports Illustrated's Ian Thomsen wrote over the weekend, NBA scouts and executives aren't 100 percent sure, and Biyombo wouldn't talk about it when asked.

"Question of the week here!," a team scouting director texted Sunday night. "No way to know for sure. I'm guessing he's 21 or 22."

If that's the case, it won't be a big deal and Biyombo will go in the first round for sure. But an Eastern Conference GM said he heard rumors that Biyombo was anywhere from 23 to 26, which would obviously be a much different deal. He'd be much more likely to become an undrafted free agent than a Draft pick, and with the uncertainty surrounding labor, who can say for sure how -- and how much -- free agents would be signed and would get paid.

There is, though, no questioning his rapidly developing talent. His defensive skills are being compared to Oklahoma City's Serge Ibaka, also from Congo.

"His effort, heart, shotblocking, offensive rebounding and attempt at leadership were big," a scout said Sunday. "Very raw, though."

A Western Conference general manager said that Biyombo could go anywhere from the end of the Lottery to the second round. "He has a good body and good overall quickness, plus he is strong and not afraid of anything."

Biyombo and Brazilian 7-footer Lucas "Bebe" Nogueira, also 18, were the two main 2011 Draft prospects in Portland. Nogueira didn't play well but is still a potential first-rounder. This may well be a year when a half-dozen international big men, including the Czech Republic's Jan Vesely, Turkey's Enes Kanter and Lithuania's Donatas Motiejunas, take up the slack in a less-than-stellar Draft and go in the first round.

Biyombo has a real chance to join them. As long as he wasn't born during the Reagan Administration.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/david_aldridge/04/11/morning-tip-awards-picks/index.html

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:05 pm
by StocktonShorts
The59Sound wrote:Yeah, you're probably right about that. If Millsap stays at PF, there's not a lot of minutes available at the 4. Can never hurt to have depth, though, and a draft pick (or current player) can always be moved to clear the log-jam later on.


He's under contract with a Spanish league team for another 3 years, but with a cheap (well, 1M Euro) buyout. I say draft him and let him play there for a year. Then bring him over.

For comparison: his standing reach is 1" more than Favors and his wingspan is 3" longer.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:14 pm
by The59Sound
HappyProle wrote:
The59Sound wrote:Yeah, you're probably right about that. If Millsap stays at PF, there's not a lot of minutes available at the 4. Can never hurt to have depth, though, and a draft pick (or current player) can always be moved to clear the log-jam later on.


He's under contract with a Spanish league team for another 3 years, but with a cheap (well, 1M Euro) buyout. I say draft him and let him play there for a year. Then bring him over.

For comparison: his standing reach is 1" more than Favors and his wingspan is 3" longer.


That's a pretty perfect situation, actually.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:34 pm
by carrottop12
I'd definitely look at him with the 12 pick. Apparently he's better at this point in his career than Ibaka was.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:47 pm
by dingojazz
OK put me on the bandwagon. I'm starting to think he won't be available at 12 tho. With the lockout a high possibility, drafting him now and then letting him develop for another year overseas would work out quite well.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:48 pm
by Ugly0598
Bothers me A LOT that people haven't even disclosed what his age is.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:58 pm
by DelaneyRudd
18 is what it's listed at.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:12 pm
by StocktonShorts
If LeBron had come from Africa looking like he did at 18 everyone would have claimed he was lying about his age.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:38 pm
by The59Sound
HappyProle wrote:If LeBron had come from Africa looking like he did at 18 everyone would have claimed he was lying about his age.


True. Greg Oden looked (no hyperbole) 45 on draft day.

Re: Biyombo

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:44 pm
by Ugly0598
The59Sound wrote:
HappyProle wrote:If LeBron had come from Africa looking like he did at 18 everyone would have claimed he was lying about his age.


True. Greg Oden looked (no hyperbole) 45 on draft day.


Oden plays like he's 45 too with the injuries.