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I want to first off start by saying, I know we will not make all of these moves. But I truly believe this team would be a championship team for years to come.

Trade 1: Big Al, Jeremy Evans to Milwaukee for Andrew Bogut, Carlos Delfino

Why for Bucks: They haven't been scoring the ball at all. Big Al can fix that problem. Also they get Jeremy Evans who has some potential and can provide energy for them.

Why for Jazz: We get a true center who does all of the dirty work. He rebounds and blocks shots. We haven't had a center like him in such a long time

Trade 2: Between Cleveland, Portland, Utah

Portland Trades: Wes Matthews, Andre Miller, Luke Babbitt, Elliot Williams, 2011 1st Round Pick
Portland Receives: Devin Harris, Anderson Varejao, Daniel Gibson

Utah Trades: Devin Harris, Mehmet Okur, 2011 1st Round Pick (#12)
Utah Receives: Matthews, Andre Miller, Joey Graham, 2011 Port Pick (#21)

Cleveland Trades: Varejao, Gibson, Joey Graham
Cleveland Receives: Okur (exp), Luke Babbitt, Elliot Williams, Utah 2011 1st (#12)

Why for Portland: They get Devin Harris who they have tried to get for a long time. They also get Anderson Varejao who is the perfect compliment to Aldridge. Daniel Gibson can also provide a spark off of the bench
Why for Utah: They get Matthews back to start at the 2. They also get Andre Miller to play PG for a year as he is an expiring contract. We only move down 9 spots in the draft
Why fro Cleveland: Get another lottery pick. Yes they do give up Varejao, but they get the Utah pick plus two first round picks from last years draft (Williams, Babbitt). Okur is an expiring deal so they only pay him for one year.

Trade 3: We trade Carlos Delfino to anyone we can for a 2nd round pick (salary dump).

The total salary for the Utah Jazz for 2011-2012 at this point is 45.7 million, which is 12.3 million under the current cap.

We then sign Wilson Chandler to a 5 yr 40 million contract.

Then at the draft, we do anything we can to get Harrison Barnes. If we get lucky and get a top 3 pick, then we take him there. If we stay at pick number 5 or 6, we trade our pick plus the GS pick in 2012 to get into the top 2 or 3. We draft a big or a true PG with the Portland Pick

2011-2012 Utah Jazz:
PG- Andre Miller, Earl Watson (resigned)
SG- Wes Matthews, Gordon Hayward,
SF- Wilson Chandler, Harrison Barnes
PF- Paul Millsap, Derrick Favors
C-Andrew Bogut, Kyrrlo Fesenko (resigned)

That is a young, talented core. The only position we are missing is a point guard. Andre Miller is an expiring contract, so we have a little money to spend in the off-season of 2012. We sign Raymond Felton to a 5 year 40 mil contract.

The 2012-2013 Utah Jazz:
PG- Raymond Felton, Earl Watson
SG- Matthews, Hayward
SF- Barnes, Chandler
PF- Favors, Millsap
C- Bogut, Fesenko

The oldest current player out of all those players besides Watson is 26 (Millsap, Bogut, Felton). Lineups could be so versatile as almost all of those players can play multiple positions. The talent is there especially if Barnes and Favors turn into All-stars. Matthews and Chandler are the role players that play serious defense and do the little things that help us win. Millsap and Hayward are the sparks off the bench that provide scoring and energy. Felton is the true point guard that is asked to be the leader on the floor and make good decisions. And Bogut is the anchor of our defense and the leader on the boards.

Sorry that is a long explanation for everything, but I really, really would love this. Do you guys have any thoughts as you are probably smarter than me. Thanks guys

ugh. Thats not a championship calibre, team, thats a trainwreck.

JDubJazz wrote:ugh. Thats not a championship calibre, team, thats a trainwreck.

I don't think its a train wreck but its not good. I'll take our current core all day long.

Yeah, that looks like an awful lot of time invested to produce a net downgrade. The 2011-12 line-up would be terrible offensively.

And BTW, any moves which keep Hayward on the bench are going to be counter productive.

A pick in this draft will not pry Varejo from the Cavs.

A trade to get Wes Mathews back?

That reeks of fail.

I'd love to get Bogut, but I really don't like that team. Raymond Felton is the last guy I want as our long-term option at PG.

If Barnes is in the draft, that is a winning strategy. Otherwise draft Biyombo or Knight (unlikely, but possibly both) and see how they develop.

#1 Priority------ Sign Aaron Afflalo!!!!!!!!11

My version:

DRAFT
Take Brandon Knight with the sixth (or Kyrie Irving if we somehow get lucky) and Terrence Jones/Kawhi Leonard with the 12th. If Bismack Biyombo is still available after that, dangle the 2012 GS pick for whatever team is in that spot.

Brandon is still learning, and will have two years to be ready before he takes the point from Devin Harris.
Terrence or Kawhi will be the team's next wing prospect and will battle Jeremy Evans for minutes at SF. Whoever emerges will take AK's spot at the three in two or three years (see FREE AGENTS).

PLAYER OPTIONS
Keep CJ Miles and hope he addresses his consistency issues. If he still doesn't pan out, he can be of value to other teams and can be traded for at least a second round pick or a serviceable vet.

FREE AGENTS
Re-sign Andrei Kirilenko to a 4 year deal, with a PLAYER option on the third and a TEAM option on the fourth year. AK is still valuable to this team and should start games as the young wings progress.

Re-sign Ronnie Price to the minimum as a third string PG.

Although Earl Watson was a good back-up last season, I would prefer to not re-sign him and instead give his minutes to Knight.

Let Elson and Fesenko go too. And give whatever spare minutes to Biyombo as the next project big.

TRADES
Trade Raja Bell.

Depth Chart:
PG- Harris | Knight | Price
SG- Hayward | Miles
SF- Kirilenko | Jones | Evans
PF- Millsap | Favors <-- depending on match-ups
C- Jefferson | Okur | Biyombo

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A conservative and not unsound plan, but a couple of things stand out:

Biyombo will most definitely be gone long before 12, but the GSW pick might turn into a very good player anyway.

Why Price over Watson? His contract is over as well, and Knight can play a bit of SG.

Time for CJ to go. The majority of time, his play just disrupts the offense and creates easy shots for the opposing team.

I tell CJ, tone down your game. If you want us to pick up your contract then we're going to tell you exactly what we expect from you. Hypothetically, I am not concerned with his statistics. What I want to see from him is a player focused on a reduced contribution. I want to see a player who can be used to move the ball around the offense, yes cj, this includes setting screens, if he can't play a reduced role to near perfection, we don't need him, but has the FO talked to them about their plans for him, lower the expectations people, there is still a small chance he is serviceable. On defense, someone who is involved who is making plays in transition, someone who takes a charge, cj, the first time you slide out from under a charge we are putting you on the bench, indefinitely...lol, but corbin should demand his players take charges, so it goes for everyone.

I understand it is difficult to trade Mansap. He also needs to be talked to, if he is going to have the attitude that he should be starting, then he needs to be traded. Not that his attitude is bad, but it isn't going to be a fit on this team.

AK47 is more veteran and can easily be moved from the starting lineup to the bench. If he gets injured for a few games, it is more time for the rookies. I trust AK47 more than any player on the Jazz, I can see he will need to time rest his body occasionaly by the way he plays, I don't have a problem with resigning him for the mle, if he will take it. Besides, AK47 by my account whenever AK47 is on the court he is our best player, he plays multiple positions.

Malone might get po'ed if we trade Millsap, but then Malone is easy to piss off.

I sayto u CJ, despite your frustrations and dissapointing season, I still dream of you being a serviceable player, a player deeply rooted in the Jazz culture.
I have a dream that one day the JazzNation will rise up and be Champions. We live by the simple creed that hard work pays off.
I have a dream that even a ukranian project center could've made something of himself if he lived by this creed.
I have a dream that the UtahJazz, once known as the armpit of the NBA, the stinkiest most reviled destination, will be transformed into one of the most desirable destinations in the NBA to work and make a home.
I have a dream the Salt Lake Valley has a street named "JERRYSLOANSWAY or THEHIGHWAY"

Let this Jazz team gell and it will be serving people crow from the concrete jungles to the farms of illinois.
WHen the crowed is served, we will make people will say, "Champions at last, Champions at last, I like my crow well done please, they are champions at last."

after that season i would never trade Al for Bogut, plus ok trading Harris for Miller have some sens but only if we gonna pick some really perspective pg in this year draft.

We should screw over the Nets by offering our pick this year, the Nets pick, the GSW pick next year, and a combo of Millsap/Jefferson and Harris for Dwight Howard.

Watson
Hayward
Kirilenko
Millsap/Jefferson (whoever is left)/Favors
Howard

kamazilla wrote:^ ^ ^
A conservative and not unsound plan, but a couple of things stand out:

Biyombo will most definitely be gone long before 12, but the GSW pick might turn into a very good player anyway.

Why Price over Watson? His contract is over as well, and Knight can play a bit of SG.

Time for CJ to go. The majority of time, his play just disrupts the offense and creates easy shots for the opposing team.

On Biyombo:
Well, like I said, "if" he's still there. I believe he'll be top 10, but you know, strange things happen during draft night. Otherwise, I'll be content on keeping the GSW pick and just get Ante Tomic to come over to be the next project big.

On Price over Watson:
I'd love to have Watson on the team. But, I'd rather give Knight the minutes. Now, if Earl was willing to take on a third string role, then I'd definitely sign him over Price. However, I think that's not going to happen. I'm not even sold on Earl coming back next season. He might get an offer from a contender with the same minimum salary, say the Heat.

If somehow we luck out of the top 3 PGs in the draft (Irving, Walker, Knight), I would draft a wing (Jan Vesely?) with the sixth and Jimmer Fredette with the 12th and re-sign Earl as the back-up PG. And then address the PG issue in next year's draft.

My off-season dream:

My offseason dream is to sure up the bench. We were almost dead last in all major bench statistical category. We were 27th in bench scoring, 29th in bench efficiency, 28th in bench rebounding, 26th in bench fg%, and 23rd in bench 3pt%.

I think one of the main reasons was CJ Miles was asked to be our 6th man for most of the year. He is way too inconsistent to be in that role. He could, however, be a productive 7th or 8th man. The Jazz had one of the top starting 5's this year, so they can sure up their bench through the draft and just getting healthy over the off-season.

Draft:
#6 - Biyombo(keep overseas for a year to develop offensively, backup center next year)
#12 - Jimmer(He's ready to be a contributor on day 1)

FA: Resign AK for MLE and pick up CJ's option

Jefferson/Okur/Favors
Favors/Sap/Evans
AK/Sap/Miles
Hayward/Miles/Jimmer
Harris/Jimmer

We would have a ton of firepower off the bench to use. All four of these guys are capable of going off for 20-25 ponts, so Ty could play the hot hand off the bench. Last year or bench went as CJ went, so not having to rely on CJ nightly would fix a ton of problems by itself.

Biyombo could develop overseas or in the DLeague for a year while Okur finishes out his contract. He could be the rebounder/shot-blocker we need off the bench in the next couple of years, but may be too raw to be relied on next year.

If the Jazz draft Biyombo they better get a garuantee that he's coming over, or else pass with the sixth, worth it with the twelth.