Ideas on moving #12 pick

[Bullet]

If Biyombo or Leonard is still available at 8, would you do this?

(PER)

Memo (12.7) + Millsap (19.8) + #12
for
Rip (15.8) + Maxiell (9.4) + #8

I believe Rip can still be productive until his contract expires. Memo is done, IMO. Millsap, as much as I like him, will hinder Favors' development.

What do you think?

If you were to trade the 12th pick, what would you do?

[Soul Patch]

No. I think Memo could still be a valuable bench player. Millsap gets better every year and has an incredible contract. We could get more. I also don't like trading away the guys that were coached by Sloan for more than half a season.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

I don't want Rip and I think Millsap has more value than the 8th pick in this kind of a draft. I would move Millsap for another top 5 pick but moving him and our 12th for a 5-8 pick...not sure it's worth it in this draft.

[kamazilla]

Maybe we need a trade Millsap thread. So far, the trades posted have seriously been underestimating his value, but there seems to be a strong sentiment that he won't be part of the Jazz's future. I don't know about that, considering his contract, durability and uncanny ability to keep improving and expanding his game.

Honestly, I wouldn't trade him until I've seen what he's added this offseason. I have the feeling he's shooting treys like a mad man. Were the Jazz to land Williams, obviously the situation would be more complicated.

[gojazzmjsucks]

You need three good BIgs to win a ring. Everything i have read has us getting rid of a couple. If we get rid of Sap then we better draft Kanter and get another free angent. We have Al and Favors. i only trade Sap if it gets us a top 5 pick or help us land another starter. RIP is not that anymore.

[finnegan]

Jimmer is worth a gamble at #12. He single handedly lead BYU on a pretty nice run this year, inculding beating Derrick Williams team by 30+ points.

Sure his style may not fit into the Jazz's system, but then again he may flourish when other players are helping carry the load, and he doesn't get double and triple teamed.

[Luigi]

Not a wise move for Utah.

Why downgrade Millsap for Maxiel, and then move an expensive expiring benchy for a long term expensive benchy? I would expect that jumping on those two grenades would at least get us up to the #4.

[finnegan]

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/ ... nent-team/

“Jimmer Freddette is so good at getting his own shot, not needing anything or anybody to help him. To me, that’s the hardest part of playing against BYU and him. It’s not like he’s running off of all these screens where you’re getting guys to jump out or switch … a lot of his points just stem from his own individual ability and creativity. And he can do it shooting the three or driving.

“He just has a way about him. It can mentally wear your team out because the shots as they go in just take that effect of ‘There’s not any easy answer here today.’ There just isn’t.

“You’re going to play zone against them? I mean, you almost can’t at all. Then, you go man and you’re at his mercy.”

Miller noted that BYU “was nice” this season, taking out Fredette before he could do any more damage in an 87-65 win in Salt Lake City. Fredette scored 33.

“He really is a special, special player,” Miller said. “In the two games he played against a team that I coached, he was as good as any individual player that I’ve seen live.”

Didn't Iggy play at Arizona?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705354954/BYU-basketball-Fredettes-career-night-propelled-BYU.html

Derrick Williams scored 13 points in the game.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6COcL1KaIUA[/youtube]

[carrottop12]

Personally I want to package the 12 with Millsap to move up to grab a point guard in the top 5.

Like I proposed earlier, we will have the opportunity to draft either Kanter or Williams at 3, do you then trade Millsap and the 12 to Cleveland to Toronto to try to get Knight at 4 or 5?

[dingojazz]

Personally I want to package the 12 with Millsap to move up to grab a point guard in the top 5.

Like I proposed earlier, we will have the opportunity to draft either Kanter or Williams at 3, do you then trade Millsap and the 12 to Cleveland to Toronto to try to get Knight at 4 or 5?

I really hate this idea. All the Millsap trade talk, it seems people are forgetting how good of a player he is, and he is also on a reasonable contract. To dump him to move up 7 or 8 spots in the draft, I just really don't like it.

If we take a big at 3 (Kanter or Williams), I'd much rather keep Millsap and then draft a guard at 12 (Jimmer, Selby, Jackson). Also, we do have Devin Harris, and don't necessarily have to get a PG in this draft. I'd be pretty happy if we ended up with Kanter and a wing like Singleton, or Williams and a a 2 like Burks or Thompson.

If Sap can accept his role as a 6th man, he could really thrive. Keep Millsap!

[finnegan]

Bobcats want to get rid of their #9 and #19. If we could do that without giving up our picks I would do:

#3 Derrick Williams SF/Enes Kanter C
#9 Alec Burks SG
#12 Jimmer Fredette PG/SG
#19 Reggie Jackson PG

Bobcats want veterans so we would probably have to give up Harris or Milsap and a pick.

[dingojazz]

Bobcats want to get rid of their #9 and #19. If we could do that without giving up our picks I would do:

#3 Derrick Williams SF/Enes Kanter C
#9 Alec Burks SG
#12 Jimmer Fredette PG/SG
#19 Reggie Jackson PG

Bobcats want veterans so we would probably have to give up Harris or Milsap and a pick.

Blah, you want 4 rookies on the team? Including Favors, Hayward, and Evans, that gives you 7 first or 2nd year guys.

Also, you'd have 4 guys whose rookie contracts expire the same year, No thanks.

[Soul Patch]

Yall bitches are rookie crazy. I don't like trading a big for a small. PG isn't a glaring need. A good SG or SF is. Unless we're getting a proven wing player **** off with the trades.

[Bullet]

If Sap can accept his role as a 6th man, he could really thrive. Keep Millsap!

That would make me happy. However, Millsap seems uncomfortable with going back to his sixth man role.

[finnegan]

Bobcats want to get rid of their #9 and #19. If we could do that without giving up our picks I would do:

#3 Derrick Williams SF/Enes Kanter C
#9 Alec Burks SG
#12 Jimmer Fredette PG/SG
#19 Reggie Jackson PG

Bobcats want veterans so we would probably have to give up Harris or Milsap and a pick.

Blah, you want 4 rookies on the team? Including Favors, Hayward, and Evans, that gives you 7 first or 2nd year guys.

Also, you'd have 4 guys whose rookie contracts expire the same year, No thanks.

I was just saying which guys I would target with which picks. Wouldn't make sense to keep all of them. That being said, Portland did excellent with four first rounders in 2006 (Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Sergio Rodriguez), and a young team seems to be doing well in OKC.

If we are going to suck anyway, then why not go young?

[kamazilla]

Because you bring the rooks into a successful tradition which features some vets who already know what it take to win in the L. Furthermore, the Jazz will be much improved next year even if they make no personnel moves beyond exercising the picks they already have.

[BringtheD]

Bobcats want to get rid of their #9 and #19. If we could do that without giving up our picks I would do:

#3 Derrick Williams SF/Enes Kanter C
#9 Alec Burks SG
#12 Jimmer Fredette PG/SG
#19 Reggie Jackson PG

Bobcats want veterans so we would probably have to give up Harris or Milsap and a pick.

Bobcats would love this but no way you give a veteran player, millsap, to move up three spots, i've looked at the prospects and in the 8-12 range there are a number of players the jazz can take who can help the team.

[Xsy]

Utah's #3 and #12 for Minny's #2 and #20.

I want Derrick or Skyrie.

[Xsy]

If Sap can accept his role as a 6th man, he could really thrive. Keep Millsap!

That would make me happy. However, Millsap seems uncomfortable with going back to his sixth man role.

....yeah, but what's he gonna do.

[dr0welf]

This isn't even a deep draft, why trade our value away for a week draft lottery pick?