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Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:57 pm
by Hoops Addict
They already have Love , Beasely and Wes Johnson....all their best players are forwards.

They do not need Williams, although they think he is the 2nd best player.

I know taking the BPA is the best strategy, but of course Washington would not be wise to take another point guard after drafting John Wall #1.

If they can't get a fair trade......they will pick a player and Williams may slip to #3.

Do the Jazz Fans want Willaims at #3. Hell yeah i do........57% 3 pointers, great athlete, strong, can score, huge star quality and a best at the SF.

He would be the BPA.


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The Minnesota Timberwolves are sitting on the second overall selection in the 2011 NBA Draft and Wolves' owner Glenn Taylor believes his club will be hanging on to that pick unless team president David Kahn finds a deal that yields better talent.

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"I think it's most likely we'll keep [the pick] ... but we're open to look at a trade," said Taylor to Sid Hartman of the Star Tribune. "But most likely we'll keep [the player who is drafted]. I just think when you get a pick that high; you would want to keep it for the future."

That news likely won't sit well with Arizona's Derrick Williams.

Williams proclaimed himself the most NBA-ready player in the 2011 Draft class this past week at the NBA Draft Combine in Chicago, and that may very well be true.

He also declared himself to be a Small Forward, which could pose real problems for the Timberwolves if he is to be the 2nd overall pick, mainly because the Wolves have a crowded roster at the three and four spots already.

Third year veteran Michael Beasley really came into his own this year at the small forward spot, and last year's fourth overall pick Wesley Johnson was solid at times playing the three as well. Both player need time at the three spot, is there room for a third player who will need meaningful minutes?

Even if Williams were to see time at the four spot, he'd be playing behind All-Star Kevin Love. Some have suggested that Wes Johnson could play the two guard spot for the Wolves, but that does not open up a potential starters spot for Williams, making him hard to draft at the #2 spot.

The Wolves biggest need is point guard, and they remain optimistic that Spanish guard Ricky Rubio will commit to a deal before the 2011 NBA Draft. The Wolves have until May 31st to reach a deal with Rubio before the Collective Barging Agreement expires and the rules could potentially change. Sources close to the situation paint the likelihood of a deal happening before the June 23rd draft as pretty low.

Wolves' president David Kahn has taken a lot of heat for the number of point guards he has drafted in Minnesota, but it's looking increasingly likely that the #2 pick in this draft could be used on a point guard like Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker or on Turkish big man Enes Kanter.

There remains a window for a deal involving the #2 pick, however if Glen Taylor is right and the Wolves keep their pick, it may mean Derrick Williams tumbles to Utah at three or even to Cleveland at number four.

As the NBA Draft has proven over the years, teams can and often do take the best player available, and at #2 the best player is clearly Derrick Williams. It is possible the Wolves draft Williams to trade him later in the draft, but as appealing as Williams may be, he is not a coveted talent that is going to return a lot of additional value, so the Wolves may have limited trade options.

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Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:34 pm
by bware1136
wolves should draft williams and trade him for best offer

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:26 pm
by Hoops Addict
More Williams talk.

Bill Ingram:


As for the Timberwolves, they need to deal the pick to a team that wants/needs Derrick Williams. Williams spent the combine talking about how he's a three and not a four, but either way the Timberwolves don't need him. He won't play in front of Kevin Love, Wesley Johnson, Michael Beasley and Anthony Randolph. Minny is looking long and hard at the point guards in the field, and may trade down a spot or two to grab Walker or Knight. They're not completely sold on Rubio.

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Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:32 pm
by kamazilla
By the time of the draft, Williams at three may not be seen as having slipped. The more people are seeing of Kanter, the more highly regarded he in becoming. I would be happy with either one.

Taking a PG at two would be a reach of epic proportions, I have no idea why the writer said its becoming increasingly more likely that could happen. And Williams slipping to four? Not bloody likely.

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:54 pm
by mg
Personally I think Williams would play ahead of Beasley, Randolph, and Wes Johnson. None of those players are stars..actually Beasley is a headcase. Minnesota would be flat out stupid to pass on D. Williams but I think Kahn is stupid enough to do so.

Jazz fans need to hope Kanter keeps rising and that Kahn or another team is stupid enough to take him at #2 despite the fact he hasn't played organized basketball in 2 years.

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:01 pm
by MeestR
so minnesota doesn't need williams, and they obviously don't need irving. what if kanter ends up going at 1?

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:35 pm
by schneiderjazz
MeestR wrote:so minnesota doesn't need williams, and they obviously don't need irving. what if
kanter ends up going at 1?


There's no way in hell the Wolves would pass on Irving. Kahn sure loves Rubio, but Irving is a much better prospect.

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:59 pm
by HammerDunk
The nice thing is that we have a great relationship with Minny in terms of working out trades and deals, and I think Kahn and KOC have a fairly healthy relationship. If the Jazz wanted to work something out to get the #2 if they wanted it, I'm sure Minny would oblige, assuming they wouldn't want Williams.

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:43 pm
by DelaneyRudd
MeestR wrote:so minnesota doesn't need williams, and they obviously don't need irving. what if kanter ends up going at 1?

They obviously deprerately need him.

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:30 pm
by Ming Kong!
DelaneyRudd wrote:
MeestR wrote:so minnesota doesn't need williams, and they obviously don't need irving. what if kanter ends up going at 1?

They obviously deprerately need him.


I doubt it. I think that the Cavs are going to aim at getting Irving at 1 and hope that the Jazz pass on Williams. I'm sure the Cavs will bargain hard with the Jazz to swap picks. There is absolutely nothing on the Cavs roster that I want lol. I think that the Cavs are more likely to get Williams than Kanter.

1. Irving
2. Kanter
3. Williams

:-D

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:03 pm
by DelaneyRudd
What? I was saying Minnesota would take Irving over anyone and are in desparate need of a Point Guard. Rubio is no different than any other prospect. He's not a slam dunk can't miss guy if he comes over. Their starting PG was Luke Ridenour.

Re: Hoopshype article says Minnesota doesn't need Williams.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:49 am
by 3960HOOD
To me its looking more and more like they'll take Kanter imo.