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Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#1 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:16 pm

Jimmer Fredette created the most buzz. But Brandon Knight was the real deal.

The former Kentucky guard ran through an hour-long solo workout Thursday with the Jazz. After the session was over, the 19-year-old that many predict Utah will select with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2011 NBA Draft delivered an unexpected message. Knight strongly feels that he ranks among the most talented athletes in a weak draft class. And after being accused during recent weeks of ducking prospects such as ex-Connecticut guard Kemba Walker during pre-draft sessions, Knight revealed his true aspiration.

“The guy I'm trying to work out against is Kyrie Irving,” said Knight, referring to the former Duke point guard widely expected to be taken No. 1 overall by Cleveland.

The 6-foot-3, 177-pound Knight asserted that he is a true point guard. He attended Kentucky and followed in the footsteps of NBA stars such as Derrick Rose and John Wall to learn the position. He then attempted to prove during his Jazz workout that he can excel when commanding a professional team.

“I was working with all the coaches,” Knight said. “It was pick-and-rolls, spot shots, finishing with my left hand. … Pretty much everything.”

He added: “I got a pretty good vibe. Everywhere I've been has been a pretty good connection with the team and the coaches. I felt good being in this environment.”

Irving's confidence was clearly apparent during a post-workout interview, as was his often-discussed intelligence. Knight held a 4.3 grade-point average during high school and was praised by Wildcats coach John Calipari, who highlighted Knight's work ethic and compared him to Jazz legend John Stockton.

"I go hard," Knight said. "I try to take my drills serious, and try to focus and make sure I'm hitting shots. And try and pay attention to detail and pay attention to what they tell me to do."

Knight is open to playing for the Jazz, and is intrigued by the idea of performing in an offensive system that Stockton, Karl Malone and Jerry Sloan made famous. Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin said Knight is a "mirror image" of his videotaped performances, and believes the unproven Knight will eventually develop into a "big" point guard. Knight worked out for about two hours Wednesday night after arriving in Salt Lake City, adding to his positive impression.

"He showed himself very well. He did a really good job," Corbin said. "It was one-on-zero. But to show his talent level. ... His basketball IQ seemed to be high."

Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor said the organization will not hold Knight's decision to work out solo against him, since he was simply following the orders of his agent. Utah has already heavily scouted Knight — watching him practice several times at Kentucky, among other settings — and Thursday's workout was just another piece of promising information.

"What you determine is, is he willing to try and make everyone on the team better, rather than make himself better," O'Connor said. "And if you've got enough quickness and you've got enough athleticism and you can handle the ball well enough, then you can be a point guard."


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Re: Confident Knight says he wants Irving after Jazz workout 

Post#2 » by woodstock17 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:25 pm

Love the confidence
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#3 » by HolyToledo » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:07 pm

Here is a link to his interview post Jazz workout. He seems like a hard worker that knows he needs to improve his PG skills and is willing to work on it.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazzn ... z.html.csp

What surprises me about alot of these potential draftees is they want to go as high in the draft as possible. I know the higher they go the more money they make but all #1 picks have guaranteed contracts and they all make good money. I would think what city they would like live at would be a bigger part in their decision. I guess that is good for Utah that it is not considered that much by the draftees.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#4 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:26 pm

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Knight Issues Challenge To Irving

Brandon Knight ran through an hour-long solo workout Thursday with the Jazz. After the session was over, the 19-year-old that many predict Utah will select with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2011 NBA Draft delivered an unexpected message.

Knight strongly feels that he ranks among the most talented athletes in a weak draft class. And after being accused during recent weeks of ducking prospects such as ex-Connecticut guard Kemba Walker during pre-draft sessions, Knight revealed his true aspiration.

“The guy I'm trying to work out against is Kyrie Irving,” said Knight, referring to the former Duke point guard widely expected to be taken No. 1 overall by Cleveland.


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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#5 » by carrottop12 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:29 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P497Goyb2LU&feature=related[/youtube]

I want you Mamba!!!

I hope BK takes #27 for the Jazz so we can call him the Mongoose.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#6 » by Toothless » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:31 pm

Funny that he wants Irving but not willing to work out against the guys that want him, but that aside, I think he answered a lot of questions with his attitude in the interviews about him wanting to compete but taking the advice of his "camp" and also about the rumors of him not wanting to come to Utah (he said it was definitely not true and not sure where the rumor started). It appears that Corbin really likes him and that he had a good connection with the Jazz staff. I think Knight will be our pick at 3.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#7 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:34 pm

Bat wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P497Goyb2LU&feature=related[/youtube]

I want you Mamba!!!

I hope BK takes #27 for the Jazz so we can call him the Mongoose.


:rofl:

Where did you find that
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#8 » by retiredcoach » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:38 pm

Knight and I are both confident.

I want Irving. I'll whip his butt all over the court. I'll out shoot him, blow past him for easy buckets and punish him on defense. I'll pick and roll his ass into the maple hardwood.

The only question is when will he show up for our workout? ugh, Never! That's the same time he'll show up for a workout against Knight.

What an empty dumb ass challenge.

Right after I get though kicking Irving's butt, I'll go 10 rounds with Ali. Who cares about his Parkinson's. I'm there when he shows up!
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#9 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:47 pm

retiredcoach wrote:Knight and I are both confident.

I want Irving. I'll whip his butt all over the court. I'll out shoot him, blow past him for easy buckets and punish him on defense. I'll pick and roll his ass into the maple hardwood.

The only question is when will he show up for our workout? ugh, Never! That's the same time he'll show up for a workout against Knight.

What an empty dumb ass challenge.

Right after I get though kicking Irving's butt, I'll go 10 rounds with Ali. Who cares about his Parkinson's. I'm there when he shows up!


...Boggle...

You really don't think he has tried to work out against him?

If you are shying away from the best why go to Kentucky? Why go be in the spotlight following the footsteps of John Wall and Derrick Rose?

Pretty sure Irving isn't working out with anyone, does he receive the same criticism?

Call it what you want, but ultimately it makes sense.

Jimmer wants to be on the same tier as Kemba, Kemba wants to be on the same tier as Knight, Knight wants to be on the same tier as Irving (which is where he was before the year started and throughout the year).

I think what Knight is saying and doing is smart. Can't blame him for avoiding a pointless workout with Kemba and Jimmer (how exactly does working out with guys who have mostly been projected 7-15 get you into the top 2?) and talking about a workout with Irving.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#10 » by retiredcoach » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:00 pm

by JazzD15 on Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:47 am
I think what Knight is saying and doing is smart. Can't blame him for avoiding a pointless workout with Kemba and Jimmer (how exactly does working out with guys who have mostly been projected 7-15 get you into the top 2?) and talking about a workout with Irving.



I think what Knight is saying is what his agent told him to say to soften his ducking of competitive workouts.

Despite all the scouting that is done on players, competitive workouts answer a lot of questions. Irving and Knight's agents figure mystery sells better than fact.

Both Irving and Knight are risky draft choices in the 1 to 3 position. At 8 to 12, they are worth the risk. If I were a team I would want to see these guys playing against other prospects.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#11 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:00 pm

Article from DN talking about Knight workout.

SALT LAKE CITY — Brandon Knight missed Jimmermania and Kemba Walker by a day, but he did enough in a solo workout with the Utah Jazz this morning to leave a good impression on the team with two lottery picks.

"He showed himself very well," Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin said. "He did a really good job. I mean, it was one-on-zero, but (he was able) to show his talent level. ... His basketball IQ seemed to be high."

Though the Jazz would have preferred the Kentucky freshman to go up against Jimmer Fredette, Walker or other point guards, the franchise has a history of not letting similar decisions of going solo sway their ultimate drafting decision.

In fact, Utah went through that same scenario six years ago when it last picked a premier point guard this high in the draft.

"We didn't hold it against Deron (Williams) when he came in here (by himself)," Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor reminded reporters, going back in his memory to the 2005 Draft.

"Would you like to see him compete? Sure, but that's their decision and we'll go from there."

Knight, who views himself as "a true point guard," has been projected to be plucked by the Jazz by multiple mock drafts, including one by ESPN.com expert Chad Ford. And the 6-foot-3, 177-pounder believes he gave the Jazz more reason to take him with that No. 3 pick.

"I thought it went pretty good. I hit a lot of shots, did a lot of good things," Knight said. "I think I had a pretty good showing. I'm really confident in what I did."

Overall, Knight wanted to show the Jazz — and other teams he's worked out for (also solo) — that he is "taking it serious" and that he's willing to listen to instructions and pay attention to the devil in the details.

More specifically, Knight hoped to impress the Jazz with his shooting, his ability to play the pick-and-roll, his versatility with his left hand (he's right-handed), his knowledge of the game and his capability of changing speeds when necessary.

Knight also adamantly put to rest the rumor that he doesn't want to play for the Jazz.

"It seems like a great place … it'd be a place that I would love to be there," he said. "I don't know where that rumor came from, but that's not true at all."

Furthermore, Knight said he would embrace the challenge of following in the footsteps of point guard greats John Stockton and Deron Williams. He had experience doing that, having replaced 2010 top pick John Wall at Kentucky.

"I got a pretty good vibe (here). Everywhere I've been has been pretty good," Knight added. "I definitely got a good connection with the team and the coaches (in Utah). I felt good being in this environment."

Knight said he has heeded the advice from his agent to steer clear from working out against other point guards, although he admitted that he'd still make an exception.

"The guy I'm trying to work out against is Kyrie Irving," he said.

Irving is the consensus No. 1 projected pick who seems Cleveland-bound and who has refused to work out or meet with other teams.

As for Knight, the 19-year-old insists he isn't cowering from competition. He's just listening to advice from his camp.

"The best thing to do they say is to just work out by myself. I'm a competitor. I don't mind working out against anybody," Knight said. "At Kentucky, you play against the best of the best all of the time.

"You don't go to Kentucky not to do that. You don't go to Kentucky to go behind John Wall, the No. 1 draft pick, if you're not a competitor and confident in what you do," he added. "So, I'm definitely confident in what I do. I'm just trying to be strategic and listen to what my camp says to do, just be smart about it."

It isn't an ideal situation for evaluation, O'Connor admitted, but the GM said Jazz brass could still assess things like work ethic and conditioning while also getting another interviewing opportunity.

Corbin also liked running Knight through certain drills to evaluate his ballhandling and spot-shooting skills. The coach liked the fact that Knight arrived in Utah on Wednesday and worked out for two hours the night before his personal workout with the Jazz.

"His talent level and his smarts will certainly afford him an opportunity to be (a good NBA player)," Corbin said. "I think he'll put the work in to be good."


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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#12 » by Reckless » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:42 pm

retiredcoach wrote:Knight and I are both confident.

I want Irving. I'll whip his butt all over the court. I'll out shoot him, blow past him for easy buckets and punish him on defense. I'll pick and roll his ass into the maple hardwood.

The only question is when will he show up for our workout? ugh, Never! That's the same time he'll show up for a workout against Knight.

What an empty dumb ass challenge.

Right after I get though kicking Irving's butt, I'll go 10 rounds with Ali. Who cares about his Parkinson's. I'm there when he shows up!


what an idiot, do yourself us all a favor and retire from realgm
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#13 » by carrottop12 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:46 pm

JazzD15 wrote:
Bat wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P497Goyb2LU&feature=related[/youtube]

I want you Mamba!!!

I hope BK takes #27 for the Jazz so we can call him the Mongoose.


:rofl:

Where did you find that


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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#14 » by idajazz » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:49 pm

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retiredcoach wrote:Knight and I are both confident.

I want Irving. I'll whip his butt all over the court. I'll out shoot him, blow past him for easy buckets and punish him on defense. I'll pick and roll his ass into the maple hardwood.

The only question is when will he show up for our workout? ugh, Never! That's the same time he'll show up for a workout against Knight.

What an empty dumb ass challenge.

Right after I get though kicking Irving's butt, I'll go 10 rounds with Ali. Who cares about his Parkinson's. I'm there when he shows up!


what an idiot, do yourself us all a favor and retire from realgm


I think he is right on the Money +1000 for retiredcoach
Maybe you should consider an extended vacation
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#15 » by erudite23 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:02 pm

retiredcoach wrote:
by JazzD15 on Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:47 am
I think what Knight is saying and doing is smart. Can't blame him for avoiding a pointless workout with Kemba and Jimmer (how exactly does working out with guys who have mostly been projected 7-15 get you into the top 2?) and talking about a workout with Irving.



I think what Knight is saying is what his agent told him to say to soften his ducking of competitive workouts.

Despite all the scouting that is done on players, competitive workouts answer a lot of questions. Irving and Knight's agents figure mystery sells better than fact.

Both Irving and Knight are risky draft choices in the 1 to 3 position. At 8 to 12, they are worth the risk. If I were a team I would want to see these guys playing against other prospects.



It doesn't sound like you have any experience at all with the draft. Usually you have good input, but I think you need to know a little more about the process before you go making statements like the one above.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#16 » by hoops4life » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:09 pm

retiredcoach wrote:Both Irving and Knight are risky draft choices in the 1 to 3 position. At 8 to 12, they are worth the risk. If I were a team I would want to see these guys playing against other prospects.


Who should be drafted in the 1-3 range this year? What 8-10 players do you think are better than these two in the draft? And why?

I am sure that the jazz want them to play against each other. I am sure that Knight would like to as well. He isn't the first and won't be the last to refuse to workout with other players.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#17 » by retiredcoach » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:21 pm

Knight, Irving, and Walker all look about the same to me. Probably good point guards, but maybe not as great as people think they will be.

Williams, Kanter, Vesely, and Biyombo aren't as risky. But their upside is definitly unknown. Biyombo could give a good scoring team a defensive edge and help them win 5 to 10 more games a year. Kanter is going to be a strong power player in the paint.

Somebody has to go 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but in this draft that doesn't necessarily speak to their ability to become more than adequate starters.

I don't see Knight helping the Jazz for at least two or three years. Of course KOC likes that. Biyombo, Kanter and Vesely could help the Jazz now. The question on Vesely is will he come. He could be a wasted draft pick.

Somebody said that Maynor was traded by the Jazz for financial reasons. Maynor makes peanut money by NBA standards. He was traded because he was not good enough to be a starting point guard. The Jazz try to leave PG 2 open to try out PG's looking for future starters. That's one reason they've had a rocky road with PG 2's over many years.
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#18 » by countrybama24 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:08 am

retiredcoach wrote:Somebody said that Maynor was traded by the Jazz for financial reasons. Maynor makes peanut money by NBA standards. He was traded because he was not good enough to be a starting point guard.


Just stop... please. You sure it had nothing to do with Harprings contract?
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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#19 » by Batu7 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:15 am

retiredcoach wrote:Knight, Irving, and Walker all look about the same to me. Probably good point guards, but maybe not as great as people think they will be.

Williams, Kanter, Vesely, and Biyombo aren't as risky. But their upside is definitly unknown. Biyombo could give a good scoring team a defensive edge and help them win 5 to 10 more games a year. Kanter is going to be a strong power player in the paint.

Somebody has to go 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but in this draft that doesn't necessarily speak to their ability to become more than adequate starters.

I don't see Knight helping the Jazz for at least two or three years. Of course KOC likes that. Biyombo, Kanter and Vesely could help the Jazz now. The question on Vesely is will he come. He could be a wasted draft pick.

Somebody said that Maynor was traded by the Jazz for financial reasons. Maynor makes peanut money by NBA standards. He was traded because he was not good enough to be a starting point guard. The Jazz try to leave PG 2 open to try out PG's looking for future starters. That's one reason they've had a rocky road with PG 2's over many years.

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Re: Brandon Knight says he wants Irving 

Post#20 » by StocktonShorts » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:16 am

After hearing Kemba answer a bunch of Jimmer questions yesterday I think Knight's camp absolutely made the right decision. No matter what happened on the court it would have been all about Jimmer.
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