EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18)

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

Litany
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,017
And1: 816
Joined: Mar 09, 2011
   

EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#1 » by Litany » Thu Sep 1, 2011 4:30 pm

Thought I would open a thread dedicated to discussing the EuroBasket tourney.

I know there is a thread about Kanter that talks about it some, but I thought that since the tournament started yesterday that we should have a thread dedicated to discussing it.

ESPN 3 is streaming all of the games live. They also archive the games in case you cant catch them live.

Here is the link:

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/
saritasbora
Veteran
Posts: 2,723
And1: 92
Joined: Mar 19, 2009

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#2 » by saritasbora » Thu Sep 1, 2011 4:44 pm

Kanter against GB
22mins 11 pts 3/5fg 5reb 3blk pretty decent game
HolyToledo
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,110
And1: 1
Joined: Feb 08, 2006

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#3 » by HolyToledo » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:02 pm

He did have a good game and thats what I think we can expect not a star and not a bust...a good player with a Kaman type career and game.
Top 4 seed in the West!!! Guaranteed!!!
Litany
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,017
And1: 816
Joined: Mar 09, 2011
   

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#4 » by Litany » Fri Sep 2, 2011 2:26 pm

ESPN discussing Kanter at EuroBasket:

PANEVEZYS, Lithuania -- With an army of drums beating in unison and a sea of flags shaken like spears, Enes Kanter stands on the court and momentarily inhales the scene. To his right, as he waits in the pregame layup line, Turkey's unofficial pep squad is chanting in full patriotic voice, producing a wave of intimidation.
Here, at EuroBasket in Lithuania, these fans expect a great deal from a team that rolled all the way to the world championship final last summer on home soil before falling to Team USA. Such expectations might be a burden for your average 19-year-old. But for the youngest player on the court, this is an occasion to savor rather than to be scared of.

"This was my first game in a EuroBasket," Kanter said, smiling after the Turks rolled past outsider Portugal 79-56 in their opening game of the tournament. "I was really excited. I wanted to just go out and show myself, show everybody what I could do."

It was, remarkably, the first meaningful game in well more than a year for Kanter, who was tabbed by the Utah Jazz with the third pick in this year's NBA draft. He was ruled ineligible to play for the University of Kentucky last fall amid claims his amateur status had been invalidated due to payments received from Turkish club Fenerbahce.

He stayed on in Lexington. "It was difficult," he said. "I just had to not give up. Coach [John] Calipari was really good. So were my teammates. They said: 'You have to think ahead.' You have to go hard in every practice because those are your games. And if you work hard, then you will benefit."

Two summers ago, Kanter was the MVP of the European under-18 championships, averaging 18.6 points and 16.4 rebounds per game and dominating his peers. Bringing him into the senior fold this summer, Turkish coach Orhun Ene wasn't entirely sure what to expect. With Cleveland Cavaliers center Semih Erden out with an injury, Ene had a vacancy, and Kanter, whom he passed on last summer, was willing to make his case for inclusion on the country's final 12-man roster for EuroBasket.

"Throughout our warm-up games, he improved a lot," Ene said. Enough to earn himself a significant role. "It's difficult for players at the NBA level sometimes to adapt to European tournaments because European basketball is different. But he's understood what game he should play."

Repaying his coach's faith, Kanter gave the Jazz a taste of what might be coming soon against the Portuguese, scoring a team-high 14 points on 7-of-9 shooting while displaying real composure amid a veteran squad. "Right now, I feel like I'm still trying to get in game shape," he said.

But there were no obvious signs of rust. It was a positive first impression.

"He's had a difficult year in the USA," said Ene, whose side likely will duel with Spain and Lithuania for first place in their group. "He's still a kid. But he has a great ambition. He has great talent. And he has been pushing himself since the beginning of our preparation."

It has helped, Kanter said, to gain insights from seasoned veterans such as Raptors swingman Hedo Turkoglu and Bucks forward Ersan Ilyasova. Coming off a year without game competition, some adjustments were required to regain that lost momentum. This summer, in reality, is an alternative rookie season.

"If you try to play like Hedo or the other elder players, it helps," he said. "I'm young. I'm just 19. That's giving me a big boost. I was nervous coming in here. It was my first game. I was very excited but they calmed me down and told me to just go out and play my own game."

It looks to be in good shape. Turkey is here chasing one of the two direct entries into next year's Olympic Games in London. It is one of Kanter's other dreams to be there. His nightmare? To spend another year kicking up his heels, waiting for the opportunity to test himself in the heat of battle.

Ideally, the necessary deals will be done and he can attempt a seamless transition from Lithuania to Utah.

"I couldn't play NCAA. That frustrated me," he said. "Right now, there's a NBA lockout, so I don't even know when I'll be able to play there. So it helps that I have the national team to focus on. It's a good way to get back my rhythm and to see where I am."

Kanter could, if he so chooses, stay on in Europe and sign a deal until the lockout is resolved.

"After the European championship, I'll talk to my agent and see what happens," he said.

His place on the court restored, he has no desire to rejoin the spectators looking on.


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/ene ... nes-kanter
3960HOOD
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,912
And1: 79
Joined: Jul 20, 2006
     

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#5 » by 3960HOOD » Fri Sep 2, 2011 4:08 pm

Valanciunas first 2 games.
VS Great Britain:
4 Mins, 0 FG Shot, 0 PTS, 2 RBS, 2 TO's

VS Poland:
18 mins, 3-4 FG, 1-1 FT, 7 PTS, 5 PF, 5 TO's, 2 RBS,
schneiderjazz
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,056
And1: 19
Joined: Mar 16, 2005
Location: Brazil

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#6 » by schneiderjazz » Fri Sep 2, 2011 5:57 pm

AK with 20, 7.5 and 3.5 steals in his first two games. Looks like he's been shooting a little too much, but Russia has won both games. Did anyone watch the games?
Image
3960HOOD
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,912
And1: 79
Joined: Jul 20, 2006
     

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#7 » by 3960HOOD » Fri Sep 2, 2011 6:49 pm

schneiderjazz wrote:AK with 20, 7.5 and 3.5 steals in his first two games. Looks like he's been shooting a little too much, but Russia has won both games. Did anyone watch the games?


Nope, i've been at work during the games. But ive watched the highlights.
User avatar
Jazz_Man_86
Junior
Posts: 457
And1: 18
Joined: Jan 03, 2010
   

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#8 » by Jazz_Man_86 » Sat Sep 3, 2011 2:51 am

I watched both of these games
Charlie_S
Rookie
Posts: 1,067
And1: 87
Joined: Jan 20, 2006
Location: Italy

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#9 » by Charlie_S » Sat Sep 3, 2011 9:17 pm

Who knows if he'll ever wear a Jazz uniform, but it's worth to mention that Tomic has been posting some very solid stats so far. Tonight he just dominated Montenegro and Nikola Pekovic, 26+8+4 on 12/16 shooting.
red4hf
Jazz Forum GTS Champion 2019-2020
Posts: 10,793
And1: 1,087
Joined: Jul 04, 2002

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#10 » by red4hf » Sat Sep 3, 2011 9:20 pm

Charlie_S wrote:Who knows if he'll ever wear a Jazz uniform, but it's worth to mention that Tomic has been posting some very solid stats so far. Tonight he just dominated Montenegro and Nikola Pekovic, 26+8+4 on 12/16 shooting.


I was just about to post about Tomic...... He's looking good, but he still needs to put on weight...... We our loaded frontcourt, we could use him as a filler in a trade.......
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,070
And1: 17,590
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#11 » by babyjax13 » Wed Sep 7, 2011 4:23 am

Fesenko doesn't seem to have developed much at all, though his footwork does look good (it was before too). I hope to see Tomic play as well, glad to hear he looks good.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,070
And1: 17,590
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#12 » by babyjax13 » Wed Sep 7, 2011 4:28 am

Tomic might be the best player there, statistically: http://www.eurobasket2011.com/en/cid_4, ... 43731.html
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
StocktonShorts
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,386
And1: 2,551
Joined: Jun 02, 2009
   

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#13 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Sep 7, 2011 5:11 am

babyjax13 wrote:Fesenko doesn't seem to have developed much at all, though his footwork does look good (it was before too). I hope to see Tomic play as well, glad to hear he looks good.


Croatia is out of the tournament.
Image
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,070
And1: 17,590
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#14 » by babyjax13 » Wed Sep 7, 2011 5:17 am

Dang. Maybe ESPN 3 will still have replays.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
StocktonShorts
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,386
And1: 2,551
Joined: Jun 02, 2009
   

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#15 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Sep 7, 2011 5:20 am

babyjax13 wrote:Dang. Maybe ESPN 3 will still have replays.


Yeah, I think you can still watch five Croatia matches on ESPN3.
Image
haringeywarrior
Freshman
Posts: 50
And1: 0
Joined: Sep 20, 2010
Location: E17

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#16 » by haringeywarrior » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:21 pm

kirilenko is having a great tournament and i cant see any utah fans mentioning it in here.weird.
kebutah
Analyst
Posts: 3,533
And1: 99
Joined: Feb 10, 2005
Location: Clearfield Utah
       

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#17 » by kebutah » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:59 pm

He always plays well in the European style. Unfortunately it doesn't translate to the NBA.
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,070
And1: 17,590
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#18 » by babyjax13 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:29 am

kebutah wrote:He always plays well in the European style. Unfortunately it doesn't translate to the NBA.


It did between 2003 and 2006.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
jazzfan1971
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 39,327
And1: 8,581
Joined: Jul 16, 2001
Location: Salt Lake City
 

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#19 » by jazzfan1971 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:59 pm

He's always injured in the NBA.
"Thibs called back and wanted more picks," said Jorge Sedano. "And Pat Riley, literally, I was told, called him a mother-bleeper and hung up the phone."
kebutah
Analyst
Posts: 3,533
And1: 99
Joined: Feb 10, 2005
Location: Clearfield Utah
       

Re: EuroBasket 2011 (Aug 31 - Sept 18) 

Post#20 » by kebutah » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:54 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
kebutah wrote:He always plays well in the European style. Unfortunately it doesn't translate to the NBA.



It did between 2003 and 2006.


So five years ago he was good, what does that mean for now? Nothing.

Return to Utah Jazz