Jazz want to sign athletic shooter

HolyToledo · Post #1 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 5:52 pm

KOC says Jazz want an "athletic shooter". Interesting that he says we are not rebuilding but seems clear to me that is what we are doing. My search of possibilities include: Ones in bold the only one I would sign even though I doubt Utah is their first choice.

1) Jamal Crawford
2) Anthony Parker
3) Rasual Butler
4) Caron Butler
5) J. R. Smith
6) Aaron Affalo
7) Reggie Williams
8) Mike Dunleavy
9) Shannon Brown
10) James Jones
11) Jason Richardson
12) Sonny Weems
13) Nick Young

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... ic_Shooter

Post #2 » by **StocktonShorts** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:02 pm

What we really need is an athletic maker.

red4hf · Post #3 » by **red4hf** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:14 pm

Isn't Alec Burks an athletic shooter?

Getjazz · Post #4 » by **Getjazz** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:34 pm

He will be!!!!

HolyToledo · Post #5 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:39 pm

red4hf wrote:Isn't Alec Burks an athletic shooter?

He cant shoot. He is a pure driver to the hoop that needs to work on his outside shot. I see Nachbar maybe the guy as a 7-8 man on the team.

phrizzo · Post #6 » by **phrizzo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:40 pm

HolyToledo wrote:
red4hf wrote:Isn't Alec Burks an athletic shooter?

He cant shoot. He is a pure driver to the hoop that needs to work on his outside shot. I see Nachbar maybe the guy as a 7-8 man on the team.

from everything i've seen, alec burks can shoot.

Getjazz · Post #7 » by **Getjazz** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:51 pm

Burks can shoot. To say that he can't is just going off of what the rumors are and not watching him, or understanding his situation and what he has been working on everyday since he got out of school. Even Hayward and CJ both have said different...

Jazzfan12 · Post #8 » by **Jazzfan12** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:39 pm

Burks can shoot in the same manner that CJ can shoot in that he misses 70% of his jumpers.

phrizzo · Post #9 » by **phrizzo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:45 pm

this has been talked about to death. alec burks can shoot. to say otherwise just makes you seem like you haven't been paying attention.

babyjax13 · Post #10 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:46 pm

Burks can shoot. But, I'd like to see Reggie Williams in a Jazz uniform.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #11 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:55 pm

Not sure why everyone is saying Burks can shoot when he wasn't a very good outside shooter for his entire college career... just because you guys saw him shoot lights out in a charity game doesn't mean he can shoot.

That being said, I believe he will become a good shooter but we need a reliable and proven outside shooter right now that we can depend on.

I still have hopes that the Jazz are the dark horse contenders for signing Marcus Thornton.

Ugly0598 · Post #12 » by **Ugly0598** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:21 pm

I really like Reggie Williams, we can get him at a bargain, he lit us up with a lot of 3's when GS played us at home both times.

phrizzo · Post #13 » by **phrizzo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:30 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Not sure why everyone is saying Burks can shoot when he wasn't a very good outside shooter for his entire college career... just because you guys saw him shoot lights out in a charity game doesn't mean he can shoot.

He didn't shoot lights out in a charity game, he shot lights out in every game he played this summer. Even if he's not facing tough defense there I think it's proof that he's capable from distance. Looking at his college percentage and drawing a conclusion would be like looking at Gordon Hayward's college percentage and claiming he isn't a shooter. And Burks had less help at Colorado than Hayward did at Butler.

phrizzo · Post #14 » by **phrizzo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:33 pm

UtahJazzFan88 wrote:I really like Reggie Williams, we can get him at a bargain, he lit us up with a lot of 3's when GS played us at home both times.

I don't think you can get him at a bargain. He's not exactly a well-kept secret at this point. I would put him with guys like Thornton and Afflalo. You'll be stuck in a bidding war with other teams.

HolyToledo · Post #15 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:55 pm

phrizzo wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Not sure why everyone is saying Burks can shoot when he wasn't a very good outside shooter for his entire college career... just because you guys saw him shoot lights out in a charity game doesn't mean he can shoot.

He didn't shoot lights out in a charity game, he shot lights out in every game he played this summer. Even if he's not facing tough defense there I think it's proof that he's capable from distance. Looking at his college percentage and drawing a conclusion would be like looking at Gordon Hayward's college percentage and claiming he isn't a shooter. And Burks had less help at Colorado than Hayward did at Butler.

Heyward is a better shooter than Burks and Heyward is an average shooter at best. Heyward and Burks strenghts are that they are athletic while able to handle the ball. Shooting would be both of their biggest weaknesses.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #16 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

New rumor: Jazz in the hunt for Josh Howard

I have a hard time believing this, but it's out there.

red4hf · Post #17 » by **red4hf** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

HolyToledo wrote:
phrizzo wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Not sure why everyone is saying Burks can shoot when he wasn't a very good outside shooter for his entire college career... just because you guys saw him shoot lights out in a charity game doesn't mean he can shoot.

He didn't shoot lights out in a charity game, he shot lights out in every game he played this summer. Even if he's not facing tough defense there I think it's proof that he's capable from distance. Looking at his college percentage and drawing a conclusion would be like looking at Gordon Hayward's college percentage and claiming he isn't a shooter. And Burks had less help at Colorado than Hayward did at Butler.

Heyward is a better shooter than Burks and Heyward is an average shooter at best. Heyward and Burks strenghts are that they are athletic while able to handle the ball. Shooting would be both of their biggest weaknesses.

Hayward shot 43% from the three point line last year...... That's not average by any stretch of imagination.......

phrizzo · Post #18 » by **phrizzo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:07 pm

HolyToledo wrote:
phrizzo wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Not sure why everyone is saying Burks can shoot when he wasn't a very good outside shooter for his entire college career... just because you guys saw him shoot lights out in a charity game doesn't mean he can shoot.

He didn't shoot lights out in a charity game, he shot lights out in every game he played this summer. Even if he's not facing tough defense there I think it's proof that he's capable from distance. Looking at his college percentage and drawing a conclusion would be like looking at Gordon Hayward's college percentage and claiming he isn't a shooter. And Burks had less help at Colorado than Hayward did at Butler.

Heyward is a better shooter than Burks and Heyward is an average shooter at best. Heyward and Burks strenghts are that they are athletic while able to handle the ball. Shooting would be both of their biggest weaknesses.

Who is Heyward? Hayward is a good shooter. Any statistic would tell you that. Advanced or otherwise.

babyjax13 · Post #19 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:11 pm

HolyToledo wrote:
phrizzo wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Not sure why everyone is saying Burks can shoot when he wasn't a very good outside shooter for his entire college career... just because you guys saw him shoot lights out in a charity game doesn't mean he can shoot.

He didn't shoot lights out in a charity game, he shot lights out in every game he played this summer. Even if he's not facing tough defense there I think it's proof that he's capable from distance. Looking at his college percentage and drawing a conclusion would be like looking at Gordon Hayward's college percentage and claiming he isn't a shooter. And Burks had less help at Colorado than Hayward did at Butler.

Heyward is a better shooter than Burks and Heyward is an average shooter at best. Heyward and Burks strenghts are that they are athletic while able to handle the ball. Shooting would be both of their biggest weaknesses.

I don't know what planet you're on.

phrizzo · Post #20 » by **phrizzo** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:11 pm

red4hf wrote:
HolyToledo wrote:Heyward is a better shooter than Burks and Heyward is an average shooter at best. Heyward and Burks strenghts are that they are athletic while able to handle the ball. Shooting would be both of their biggest weaknesses.

Hayward shot 43% from the three point line last year...... That's not average by any stretch of imagination.......

Wrong. Gordon Hayward shot 47% from 3 last year. As well as 48.5% overall. That's pretty obscene for a wing.