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Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 5:57 pm
by retiredcoach
Well for all the Bell haters, Tyrone is in love again, so no reduced playing time for Bell.

Here it is in Corbin's own words:

You know what, man? He's a tough guy and he's a pro, and he's going to do whatever it takes to help the team win. And that's what I respect about him. Even if his shot's not falling. And people don't understand his value and I really understand his value to this team and how he can help us win. He's done a tremendous job for us.


I'll bet you didn't know Bell's done a tremendous job for the Jazz.

Next week Corbin may fall in love with CJ one more time and then the bricks will fly!

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 6:18 pm
by ColdBlue
If Raja plays to the standard he showed last night then there wouldn't be a controversy.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 6:48 pm
by Ugly0598
I don't have a problem with Bell playing 24 minutes like he did last night if Raja plays like that every night. He doesn't need to be a spectacular scorer either, just get 8-12 points a night and hit some selected jumpers/3's and play good defense.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 6:55 pm
by carrottop12
As long as CJ isn't back also I don't really care. I love that Burks is getting minutes.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:07 pm
by Jazzfan Bayamon
retiredcoach wrote:Well for all the Bell haters, Tyrone is in love again, so no reduced playing time for Bell.

Here it is in Corbin's own words:

You know what, man? He's a tough guy and he's a pro, and he's going to do whatever it takes to help the team win. And that's what I respect about him. Even if his shot's not falling. And people don't understand his value and I really understand his value to this team and how he can help us win. He's done a tremendous job for us.


I'll bet you didn't know Bell's done a tremendous job for the Jazz.

Next week Corbin may fall in love with CJ one more time and then the bricks will fly!


What bother's me from that quote is the last line. "He's done a tremendous job for us", because, other than last night, he's been complete and utterly HORRIBLE. I know coaches have to be "supportive" but Ty could've ended the statement without that line and it was all good. The fact that he believes that is worrisome. A player plays like Raja did for the previous 7 games and you say he's done a tremendous job? :nonono:

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:12 pm
by The59Sound
Yeah. While I was happy to see Raja play well (both because it's obviously better for us when he does and because he's a good guy who I want to see succeed), that one game seems to have re-energized Ty's delusions about him.

We'll see what happens...

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:21 pm
by FJS
I he plays as yesterday, and don't rest Burks min. I'm okay with him.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:38 pm
by Xsy
Corbin plays players who are hot, and benches players who are cold.

I don't care who's on this team as long as he's playing who deserves to play any given night.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:02 pm
by DeadlyTreeStump
When I read the topic title I thought Raja had some sort of back injury. Got my hopes up :-?

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:41 pm
by jazzgasm
I don't think u can say a player is back after just one good game

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:51 pm
by Soul Patch
Yes, but what about Raja's front?

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 11:23 pm
by red4hf
Like most others have said, if Bell is hitting his shots, I don't mind if he plays...... What I mind is when he gets minutes even though he's not hitting shots, and when he's not doing anything else to help the team.......

Jazz have always had a fascination with players who "play the right way" and yet who still suck (this doesn't actually include Raja, because in his prime he could actually play).... But this players go to other teams and get zero playing time and are out of the league in a year..... So it's either that the rest of the NBA's coaches are clueless or the Jazz were, for a long time, in love with the wrong players......

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:05 am
by Reckless
jazzgasm wrote:I don't think u can say a player is back after just one good game


this.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:06 am
by Amish Mafioso
As long as Burks is getting regular minutes to develop, I'm not going to nitpick whether those minutes come from Bell or CJ. They can take turns making the sacrifice. Just as long as Alec gets some burn.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:23 am
by JDubJazz
blind squirrel, meet nut.

I'm not holding my breath. He's bound to have a "not-terrible" game once or twice a month. It still doesn't justify his excessive playing time.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:17 am
by Luigi
He's playing less than 20 minutes a game right now, and that's not too bad.

You've gotta have some veteran presence.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:13 pm
by The59Sound
Luigi wrote:He's playing less than 20 minutes a game right now, and that's not too bad.

You've gotta have some veteran presence.


I'd hope that's what Millsap, Howard, Harris, Jefferson, and Watson are.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:06 pm
by Luigi
I see your point. Corbin seems to think Bell provides that better than the others, at least for the starting unit.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:36 pm
by retiredcoach
In my opinion, Raja in the starting lineup causes the Jazz to get off to a sluggish start. That costs them more than Raja's defense gets them.

Re: Raja's Back

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:58 am
by StocktonShorts
retiredcoach wrote:In my opinion, Raja in the starting lineup causes the Jazz to get off to a sluggish start. That costs them more than Raja's defense gets them.


Agree, and it's because we don't have enough creators on offense with a backcourt of Raja and Harris.