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Buyer: acquires veteran talent to win NOW at the expense of one or more of the following: young talent, draft picks, cap space, tax space

Seller: trades veterans for young talent, draft picks and/or cap/tax space

Despite their early season success I think the Jazz will sell one or more of: Harris, Miles, Bell, Jefferson.

Neither. I think they play it out this season and see where they are at this summer.

I think they should and will remain aggressive, but the only move I would do is to see if I can pry Rondo away from Celtics. ESPN had the Jazz as a possible destination for Paul Pierce in exchange for Millsap or Kanter plus salary filler. I would try to get Pierce, Rondo, and O'Neal in exchange for Jefferson, Harris, Kanter, Miles and GSW pick. Jazz get a team to make 2-3 championship runs while Celtics get young talent plus salary cap space to sign a free agent maybe even Howard of the Magic.

Jazz lineup:

PG Rondo Watson Tinsley
SG Hayward Burks Bell
C Favors O' Neal (D-League C/PF pick up)
PF Millsap Howard Evans
SF Pierce Howard

I can't see the Celtics parting with Rondo unless it nets them a franchise-player in return.

Rondo would be incredible for this team; Pierce much less so. Jazz likely have zero interest in him.

that would be the worst trade for Jazz if with the Celtics as reported.. Silly and dumb.. Why would we trade a bloke who gets better better as he gets older who have fans chant MVP MVP for a player who is past his prime.. Kanter is a rookie with a lot upside.. and also trade for a point guard who's jump shot is questionable... GWS pick could be the one that gets a great point guard in the draft. Watson, Harris and Tinslay are fine at the moment

Cappsy11 wrote:GWS pick could be the one that gets a great point guard in the draft.

I really doubt the GSW pick will [directly] net the Jazz a great PG.

who's to say it won't .. geez we got Milsap in the 2nd round.. turing out to be huge for us and Matthews was undrafted which we should of re-signed. ill take my chances on the 12 or whatever pick it is than trading for rondo for what we have to give up

I think the Jazz are going to sit still unless something really great appears......

I don't think Jefferson or Millsap are getting traded...... We might use our exception to acquire backcourt or wing help, but even there I don't think it will be anything big......

The amangement has obviously decided that we're going to rebuild through cap space and draft picks while fielding a competitive team...... This approach is harder than outright tanking, but more interesting for us, the fans......

I selected seller because I think we may trade Harris, if possible. I agree that our front line guys are safe for now.

HolyToledo wrote:Neither. I think they play it out this season and see where they are at this summer.

I think they should and will remain aggressive, but the only move I would do is to see if I can pry Rondo away from Celtics. ESPN had the Jazz as a possible destination for Paul Pierce in exchange for Millsap or Kanter plus salary filler. I would try to get Pierce, Rondo, and O'Neal in exchange for Jefferson, Harris, Kanter, Miles and GSW pick. Jazz get a team to make 2-3 championship runs while Celtics get young talent plus salary cap space to sign a free agent maybe even Howard of the Magic.

Jazz lineup:

PG Rondo Watson Tinsley
SG Hayward Burks Bell
C Favors O' Neal (D-League C/PF pick up)
PF Millsap Howard Evans
SF Pierce Howard

This would be so unnecessary.

i agree i dont necessarily want Pierce but I do like Rondo ALOT. If I need to take on Pierce to get Rondo then I do it. ESPN trade as reported makes no sense for the Jazz.

I think the Jazz want to be a seller, but the longer they keep a good record, the more tempting it becomes to be a buyer. I just hope they don't fall in the trap of "aging veteran" to help us get to the playoffs. This team still needs at least one more piece: a go to scorer. Renting one for a year or two when the rest of the core wont hit their primes for another three or for just doesn't make sense.

HappyProle wrote:Despite their early season success I think the Jazz will sell one or more of: Harris, Miles, Bell, Jefferson.

I would add Howard to that list.

I think the Jazz are discerning buyers. This likely means no action, but who knows. The M.O. is win this year and the next 2. It's not mortgage everything for 4 extra wins now. It's also not about gaining picks in 3 years.

If they make a trade, they'll be looking to acquire young, or prime talent.

But I expect them to stand pat.

Most likely buyers because the Jazz have enough youth and you can't be successful building only with young guys.

If anything the Jazz will be both a buyer and seller. They have a $10m TPE that they could use for a PG. If thats the case I could see them shipping out someone in the backcourt for either picks or another TPE. I don't see the Jazz moving any pieces in the front court.

Hope the celtics get desperate for a win now type of deal and we are able to net rondo without giving up too much. Harris, Jefferson and GS pick for oneal and rondo would be nice...

isn't there a minimum payroll this year? it would be hard to be seller if that were the case. of the 2, a buyer is more likely. but even more likely is standing pat.

Barring a trade for Harris, which at this point will yield jack-diddily because of how he's playing, I don't think we make any serious moves. Jefferson, superficially, has been too big a part of what we've done so far and I don't think the Jazz would want to risk the backlash of moving him in the middle of a playoff season.

Bell might get traded, but I doubt he would bring anything meaningful back. Ditto for CJ.

The most likely scenario I see is for the Jazz to take on a bloated salary from another team looking to get out of the luxury tax. A team that expected to contend but isn't and wants to offload salaries to get into the black on their balance sheet, by trading a player who only has one year left on his deal.

Possible candidates are:

Boston (Ray Allen, Jermaine O'Neal)
TrailBlazers (Camby, Felton)
Mavs (Terry, Kidd)
Magic (Nelson, Reddick, Hedo)
Lakers (Walton, Blake)



For Boston, they are terrible and one of the highest paying teams in the league.

Portland has come on hard times and might just decide that they aren't a serious threat this year, and rumors have swirled around that Paul Allen is no longer willing to foot the bill for a tax paying team.

If the Magic decide to offload Dwight, I'm guessing they go into major cost-cutting mode, and that means selling off whatever big contracts they can.

The Mavs aren't looking to save money. They are willing to lose it, in fact. But for a team that isn't going to win anything now, they might make some moves to get out of the tax so that in future seasons, when the repeater tax becomes a big thing (and it will, you'll be hearing that term a ton in 3 or 4 years), they aren't dealing with a season counting against their record for that.

Similarly with the Lakers, if they are looking to rebuild on the fly and this season is a wash, they might be willing to throw an asset our way to take Blake off their books, if its part of a bigger plan to get under the tax for this season.


So those are potential options. We all remember how we had to ship out a quality young PG in Eric Maynor a few years ago to avoid the tax payment on Harpring's contract. Well, now we're on the other side of that, with a big trade exception and wiggle room to play with. It's a great way to pick up assets.

I see the Mavs moving Marion before they move Terry. But the only reason they do that is to land dwi(ght, ll) If they were getting Dwill I could certainly see them moving Kidd.

I'm not really sure what to expect out of Boston, I don't want to jump the gun but I think a break up is the most likely scenario with Rondo being the only unmovable piece.

Portland are way better on paper than they'be been playing lately. I still expect them to get better and see them in the middle of the West.

The lakers are hard to predict. Their season goes the way Kobe's knees goes. We'll see if he runs out of gas at some point.