Trade Harris Go After Bynum In the OffSeason

blackham9258 · Post #1 » by **blackham9258** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:51 am

If we trade Harris to anyone that gets his salary of the books next year we will have $41 Million on the books. That gives us the cap space to offer Andrew Bynum a Max Contract.

Our Pitch:

Come to Utah, be the Man, win a championship. Look at all of our pieces: Favors, Kanter, Burks, Hayward, Millsap, Al Jefferson (can be traded for another championship piece), #9 pick from GSW (say Jeremy Lamb).

We ask why be the lesser of the Laker Great Centers? Miken, Kareem, Shaq, Gasol. Kobe is going downhill, and they treated you badly last year as a trade piece for another center they like better (HOWARD).

Come here, be your own man, get a championship and be the man!

Watson
Burks/Lamb
Hayward/Howard
Favors/Millsap
Bynum/Kanter

HolyToledo · Post #2 » by **HolyToledo** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:58 am

Bynum definitely staying in LA long term. We need a PG!

blackham9258 · Post #3 » by **blackham9258** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:02 am

I don't think you need an allstar point guard to win a championship. I think an Earl Watson and other good back up combo is sufficient if you have great bigs and good wings.

mjvile · Post #4 » by **mjvile** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:14 am

blackham9258 wrote:If we trade Harris to anyone that gets his salary of the books next year we will have $41 Million on the books. That gives us the cap space to offer Andrew Bynum a Max Contract.

Our Pitch:

Come to Utah, be the Man, win a championship. Look at all of our pieces: Favors, Kanter, Burks, Hayward, Millsap, Al Jefferson (can be traded for another championship piece), #9 pick from GSW (say Jeremy Lamb).

We ask why be the lesser of the Laker Great Centers? Miken, Kareem, Shaq, Gasol. Kobe is going downhill, and they treated you badly last year as a trade piece for another center they like better (HOWARD).

Come here, be your own man, get a championship and be the man!

Watson
Burks/Lamb
Hayward/Howard
Favors/Millsap
Bynum/Kanter

You are smoking crack!!!

Ming Kong! · Post #5 » by **Ming Kong!** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:15 am

Bynum? Nah he's got a monstrous contract / healthy ratio. I rather stick with Al Jefferson and Enes Kanter for now. Besides HOW would we get Bynum, and why the hell would LA trade him if he has a strong finish this season?

mjvile · Post #6 » by **mjvile** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:19 am

Ming Kong! wrote:Bynum? Nah he's got a monstrous contract / healthy ratio. I rather stick with Al Jefferson and Enes Kanter for now. Besides HOW would we get Bynum, and why the hell would LA trade him if he has a strong finish this season?

I agree, you do not offer a max contact to someone who has not even proven himself and stayed healthy an entire season.

blackham9258 · Post #7 » by **blackham9258** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:29 am

Bynum has an opt out after this summer. If he opts out, it is because he had a healthy season which would be proof enough for me. To me he is the best center in the game behind Howard and if he was on the Jazz his stats would improve enought to where there would be a debate about who is the best.

SLC Biz · Post #8 » by **SLC Biz** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:50 am

No.

Just no.

blackham9258 · Post #9 » by **blackham9258** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:04 am

No, Just No? Really? You're nuts!

You go after the best or second best center in the game if he is 23, 7'1", and huge and athletic. He would be averaging 25/15/4 on the Jazz right now if we fed him like we did Malone. He and Favors would be unstoppable on defense and offense. We would command doubles and allow for Burks to drive, Hayward to shoot uncontested 3's etc.

You go after him period! He probably won't sign, but you do everything to get him.

The59Sound · Post #10 » by **The59Sound** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:19 am

I like that part of the pitch is that he should be excited to come to an overloaded front court already having difficulty giving guys the minutes they deserve.

Getjazz · Post #11 » by **Getjazz** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:34 am

I think everyone is missing the whole point of this. Who is going to just TAKE Harris for nothing? Nobody, so its a mood point anyway....

Not only that, but Kanter and Favors are the future not Bynum. If a trade goes down it needs to be big Al or Millsap with Harris for a great PG... Then start loosing games and get 2 picks and use those to trade up to land Barnes. Then this team is set for 6-7 yrs!!!

blackham9258 · Post #12 » by **blackham9258** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:43 am

You are all missing the point. Favors and Kanter may end up being very good players.... I see Favors as someone who could become D Howard Light!.... Kanter maybe like Chris Kaman, but when you have a shot at the best Center in basketball you do it... no second thoughts.

If we had the #1 overall pick KOC would take who? If you say anything other than Anthony Davis because you have become a homer Jazz fan and fallen in love with "your guys", you are an idiot. KOC would take Anthony Davis 7 days a week and not think twice. He might then flip Kanter and a pick for Barrnes or whomever, but you don't pass up on All Stars/ All NBA players cause you like the young guys.

IDIOTIC!

Also, the point about Bynum not wanting to come here because we have front court depth is equally ridiculous. You use that depth until you can replace it with something better on the wings.

If we can rid ourselves of Devin I can see a very likely scenario that the Jazz extend Watson and pick up Andre Miller for 2 years to end his career.

Amish Mafioso · Post #13 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:58 am

Wolverine · Post #14 » by **Wolverine** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:27 am

Lets trade Hayward for Bogut, Burks for Chandler then we could haver an awesome starting five of:

PG Kanter
SG Favors
SF Jefferson
PF Bogut
C Bynum

6th man Chandler
7th Millsap.
Sounds good KOC get it done

Amish Mafioso · Post #15 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:27 am

Wolverine wrote:Lets trade Hayward for Bogut, Burks for Chandler then we could haver an awesome starting five of:

PG Kanter
SG Favors
SF Jefferson
PF Bogut
C Bynum

6th man Chandler
7th Millsap.
Sounds good KOC get it done

We could probably pick up Oden for cheap as well. I think this is gonna be his year.

leroydaman · Post #16 » by **leroydaman** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 8:18 am

Trade Harris? Sure.
Go after Bynum? Absolutely Not!

He is overpaid and seemingly always injured. In his 6 year career he has played in an average of 55 games and missed 27 (for whatever reason). As much as the fans complained about AK47 being injured, even he managed to play an average of 67 games over that time frame.

Bynum is way too expensive and too injury prone - rather the Jazz keep what they have than going after that cheap-shot moron.

galatasaray · Post #17 » by **galatasaray** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 10:14 am

here are the best szenario for the jazz a deal with hornets

trade jefferson-harris and bell to the hornets, bring jarret jack ( 15,8p-6,8asist ) chris kaman and marco belinelli to utah

start: jack-miles-hayward-millsap-kaman

kaman 25 min-kanter 20-25 min
sap and favors the same

alec burks become more minutes behind miles, belinelli is the 3 point shooter you need, thats it, and the jazz are a very dangerous team
so easy

doable or not ?

Neon Black · Post #18 » by **Neon Black** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 8:58 pm

I don't know how anyone can honestly watch Kanter play, a 19 yr. old who hasn't seen the court in two years, and say that his ceiling is Chris Kaman. Kanter's ceiling is no other player we've seen in this league before. Kanter's ceiling is being the center everyone compares as a ceiling for young players.

Not Chris ####### Kaman.

ack · Post #19 » by **ack** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 9:10 pm

Neon Black wrote:I don't know how anyone can honestly watch Kanter play, a 19 yr. old who hasn't seen the court in two years, and say that his ceiling is Chris Kaman. Kanter's ceiling is no other player we've seen in this league before. Kanter's ceiling is being the center everyone compares as a ceiling for young players.

Not Chris ####### Kaman.

This.

red4hf · Post #20 » by **red4hf** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 9:35 pm

The NBA right now is all about guards...... We need a great PG much more than we need Bynum......