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from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:32 am
by janjanjanjan4
hello jazz fans
what would it cost us to get GS pick from you?
(no eric gordon or picks please)
thanks
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:33 am
by StocktonShorts
janjanjanjan4 wrote:hello jazz fans
what would it cost us to get GS pick from you?
(no eric gordon or picks please)
thanks
I think we're done here.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:22 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
No Eric Gordon or Picks? No problem that just narrows it down to.................. wait? what the hell else do you have to offer?!
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:22 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
No Eric Gordon or Picks? No problem that just narrows it down to.................. wait? what the hell else do you have to offer?!
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:12 pm
by reapaman
How about adding the suns to a potential 3 way deal
Jazz Out:
P. Milsap
GS Pick
R. Bell
Jazz In:
G. Vasquez
G. Ayon
M. Morris
S. Brown
Future Suns Pick
X. Henry
Hornets Out:
G. Vasquez
G. Ayon
X. Henry
Hornets In:
R. Lopez
GS Pick
R. Bell
Suns Out:
M. Morris
R. Lopez
S. Brown
Future Suns Pick
Suns In:
P. Milsap
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:18 pm
by StocktonShorts
^^^ Allow me to paraphrase:
Jazz out:
Two of the best assets they have
Jazz in:
Pu-pu platter
I'm not sure I want any of those players, and why trade a likely lotto pick this year for a future first?
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:49 pm
by reapaman
HappyProle wrote:^^^ Allow me to paraphrase:
Jazz out:
Two of the best assets they have
Jazz in:
Pu-pu platter
I'm not sure I want any of those players, and why trade a likely lotto pick this year for a future first?
You haven't seen the warriors play recently or their upcoming schedule have you? We are not getting that pick this year, trust me. Raja and his contract is like impossible to get rid of and who else but phoenix really wants/needs Millsap this year (especially a team that would realistically give us anything except bloated contracts in return). If we don't trade him Millsap now, one of two of these things will happen (and I mean it will not probabley). 1) KOC is gonna let him expire after next year and he will go to another team for nothing or 2) KOC will dump him next year for a 2nd rounder or somthing thats almost useless. He has done one of these things for every one except deron and Millsap is no deron (yea we got jefferson with loozers trade exception but as much as people hate on him, is that a good thing?).
Plus I love Vasquez and think he could be a solid starter in this league. And AYON is legit and would be a solid backup plus that future pick might be worth something later down the road. The rest may be hit or miss guys but Morris in particular will likely be a nice bench player. Better to get something now instead of ending up with nothing if GS countinues to suck (which it is extremely likely that they will) and KOC does his usual cap saving methods instead of trying to improve this team when it comes to millsap.
I think its worth a shot because a couple of nice bench player at the worse is better than nothing. I mean do you have anything realistic in mind thats better?
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:58 pm
by UTJazzFan_Echo1
Awful.
Nothing I want from either New Orleans or Phoenix unless it's high draft picks or Eric Gordon.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:06 pm
by StocktonShorts
reapaman wrote:You haven't seen the warriors play recently or their upcoming schedule have you? We are not getting that pick this year, trust me.
GS is currently in 10th place, and I can't see them out-tanking seven of the team in front of them, even if they wanted to. Unless Mark Jackson gets fired, I can't see him going along with a tanking strategy. First-time coaches desperately want to win; just look at Ty Corbin.
I guess this is where we differ. If you think that pick isn't coming this year, then your deal makes some sense. But I feel pretty confident that pick IS coming this year and I'd hate to trade a lotto pick in this draft.
reapaman wrote:I think its worth a shot because a couple of nice bench player at the worse is better than nothing. I mean do you have anything realistic in mind thats better?
Millsap for a future first is better than that deal, IMO, but I think the Jazz can (and will) do better. I think there's about a 60% chance he gets dealt in the next few days.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:20 pm
by QuantumMacgyver
reapaman wrote:You haven't seen the warriors play recently or their upcoming schedule have you? We are not getting that pick this year, trust me. Raja and his contract is like impossible to get rid of and who else but phoenix really wants/needs Millsap this year (especially a team that would realistically give us anything except bloated contracts in return). If we don't trade him Millsap now, one of two of these things will happen (and I mean it will not probabley). 1) KOC is gonna let him expire after next year and he will go to another team for nothing or 2) KOC will dump him next year for a 2nd rounder or somthing thats almost useless. He has done one of these things for every one except deron and Millsap is no deron (yea we got jefferson with loozers trade exception but as much as people hate on him, is that a good thing?).
There are easily 7 teams worse than GSW! Only way they completely tank out is if Ellis AND Curry aren't on the floor.
And why would Phoenix want Millsap this? What makes you think they want/need him more than any other team? How about just every team in the playoff hunt? They would all want Millsap more than Phoenix!!
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:10 am
by jazzfan1971
Can we trade for the Hornets pick instead. (No Favors, Kanter, Burks, Hayward, or 1sts please)
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:42 pm
by janjanjanjan4
Ok, so i guess getting the GSW pick is next to impossible if we don't include Eric Gordon or our picks.
What if we put Gordon on the table? what kind of offers can we see from the Jazz?
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:50 pm
by phrizzo
i don't know if i'd even want gordon after this season. his injury history is bad news.
i like jarrett jack but i don't know if he's worth that pick.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:11 pm
by babyjax13
janjanjanjan4 wrote:Ok, so i guess getting the GSW pick is next to impossible if we don't include Eric Gordon or our picks.
What if we put Gordon on the table? what kind of offers can we see from the Jazz?
Alec Burks + 2012 GSW 1st
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:50 pm
by eLo
it would be great to have shooter like Gordon, for him i would give any of Jazz players except Kanter.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:52 am
by DelaneyRudd
janjanjanjan4 wrote:Ok, so i guess getting the GSW pick is next to impossible if we don't include Eric Gordon or our picks.
What if we put Gordon on the table? what kind of offers can we see from the Jazz?
I agree Gordon and 1st from New Orleans is too high a price... It's just there's nothing else to offer.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:29 am
by Amish Mafioso
reapaman wrote: who else but phoenix really wants/needs Millsap this year (especially a team that would realistically give us anything except bloated contracts in return). If we don't trade him Millsap now, one of two of these things will happen (and I mean it will not probabley). 1) KOC is gonna let him expire after next year and he will go to another team for nothing or 2) KOC will dump him next year for a 2nd rounder or somthing thats almost useless.

Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:44 am
by janjanjanjan4
DelaneyRudd wrote:janjanjanjan4 wrote:Ok, so i guess getting the GSW pick is next to impossible if we don't include Eric Gordon or our picks.
What if we put Gordon on the table? what kind of offers can we see from the Jazz?
I agree Gordon and 1st from New Orleans is too high a price... It's just there's nothing else to offer.
ok, got it, thanks
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:37 pm
by Colby
janjanjanjan4 wrote:DelaneyRudd wrote:janjanjanjan4 wrote:Ok, so i guess getting the GSW pick is next to impossible if we don't include Eric Gordon or our picks.
What if we put Gordon on the table? what kind of offers can we see from the Jazz?
I agree Gordon and 1st from New Orleans is too high a price... It's just there's nothing else to offer.
ok, got it, thanks
I'd definitely do Burks + GS 1st, as someone posted before. Burks looks like a stud, though. Just love me some Eric Gordon.
Re: from a hornets fan
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:01 pm
by Hoops Addict
Gordon for Favors straight up? If Gordon's knee was good and he still scored 23 a game....maybe. Fair value for both teams.
I don't want to trade Favors.