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Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 3:16 pm
by FJS
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 3:18 pm
by seejaydeja
Tonight our epic comeback begins. I can't think any differently, I'm going to go insane without Jazz games to look forward to
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 3:19 pm
by FJS
Corbin played Favors 32 minutes in Saturday's 102-90 loss but said he deserves even more time because his athleticism, competitive nature and desire are making an impact.
''His curve for learning is shortening,'' Corbin said. ''He's learning things on the fly. He wants to get better every night he steps on the floor. ... Even though we haven't had the success, he's demonstrated he has that other level in him.''
Corbin said it's also obvious Favors is ticked after losing.
''I think all of our guys feel bad about losing, just some guys you see it a little more in their faces and demeanor,'' Corbin said. ''He'll learn. He'll get better because there's a bad taste in his mouth, and he don't like it.''
Corbin also had praise for rookies Enes Kanter and Alec Burks, and wished he had played Burks more after he contributed 11 points and two rebounds in 15 minutes, and was 3 of 4 from the free-throw line.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jazz-hope- ... fp.6i8vLYF
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 4:18 pm
by red4hf
Talk is cheap Corbin...... He always says the right things, and then goes out and doesn't implement them.......
Awesome gamethread though........
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 5:14 pm
by seejaydeja
Corbin is starting Favors/Sap/Big Al
BOOM
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 6:08 pm
by jazzgasm
Well this should be interesting. Go Jazz!!! Tonight is pride night

Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 6:54 pm
by StocktonShorts
seejaydeja wrote:Corbin is starting Favors/Sap/Big Al
BOOM
I don't think this is the answer. I'll be surprised if this lineup is able to score consistently. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see how dumping the ball into Big Al is going to work any better with Favors standing around watching instead of Josh Howard.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 7:39 pm
by co_laper
I agree, I haven't been able to understand what the big fuss is with Utah's big lineup other than that it means Favors is playing. In the times the big lineup is sent out, it mostly became a post up for Al. The only difference is that Favors and Millsap are able to crash the glass better than Millsap/Howard. But the Jazz have been a high amount of offensive rebounds so far this series. How much more offensive rebounds are you really hoping to get? 30? And the spacing on the floor is really really bad when your big lineup comes in. There's hardly room for anybody to operate.
At this point, just based on the series, I think it's obvious Favors need to play. IMO, it should come at the expense of Al Jefferson. I wonder ofcourse how well he'll play if he becomes the primary focus of Duncan. I'm sure even Diaw will still be guarding Millsap, and Duncan will take Favors. Favors has mostly done his damage againts the 2nd unit and with Diaw/Blair/Bonner guarding him.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 7:40 pm
by FJS
HappyProle wrote:seejaydeja wrote:Corbin is starting Favors/Sap/Big Al
BOOM
I don't think this is the answer. I'll be surprised if this lineup is able to score consistently. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see how dumping the ball into Big Al is going to work any better with Favors standing around watching instead of Josh Howard.
Probably is not going to work.... but Ty is giving to the people what the people is asking.
Then, if Jazz lose (who is pretty probable) he can say he proved everything.
Still, the big difference is going to be in the deffensive end.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 7:52 pm
by SoCalJazzFan
It's about time Corbin tried a lineup change, so I am in favor of it.
However, the series is lost and what I think the organization should be trying to determine (if they haven't already) is whether the Favors/Jefferson or Favors/Milsap combo is the one they want to go with in the future. They could play Favors with each for 15 minutes or so.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 10:18 pm
by HolyToledo
seejaydeja wrote:Corbin is starting Favors/Sap/Big Al
BOOM
Its a step int he right direction but it should have been Harris, Hayward, Carroll, Millsap and Favors ...Big Al starts anyway and still cant defend pick and roll.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 10:42 pm
by edfmx86
An earlier tweet David Locke posted about Derrick Favors.... what do you guys think?
https://twitter.com/#!/Lockedonsports/s ... 7292333056David Locke wrote:Derrick Favors will never come off the bench again in his NBA career
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 10:50 pm
by russnumber3
SoCalJazzFan wrote:It's about time Corbin tried a lineup change, so I am in favor of it.
However, the series is lost and what I think the organization should be trying to determine (if they haven't already) is whether the Favors/Jefferson or Favors/Milsap combo is the one they want to go with in the future. They could play Favors with each for 15 minutes or so.
yeah let's turn this playoff game into a preseason game.

You guys need to learn how to live in the now. As has been mentioned this is a game about pride, not a game about trying to figure out what lineups will work next year!
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 10:55 pm
by russnumber3
co_laper wrote:I agree, I haven't been able to understand what the big fuss is with Utah's big lineup other than that it means Favors is playing. In the times the big lineup is sent out, it mostly became a post up for Al. The only difference is that Favors and Millsap are able to crash the glass better than Millsap/Howard. But the Jazz have been a high amount of offensive rebounds so far this series. How much more offensive rebounds are you really hoping to get? 30? And the spacing on the floor is really really bad when your big lineup comes in. There's hardly room for anybody to operate.
At this point, just based on the series, I think it's obvious Favors need to play. IMO, it should come at the expense of Al Jefferson. I wonder ofcourse how well he'll play if he becomes the primary focus of Duncan. I'm sure even Diaw will still be guarding Millsap, and Duncan will take Favors. Favors has mostly done his damage againts the 2nd unit and with Diaw/Blair/Bonner guarding him.
co_laper, Howard is awful on offense and defense, while favors is brilliant on D and okay on offense. This is primarily a move to boost our defense. Favors is very good on pick and roll and with help defense. Personally I think he's a great person to put in WITH Jefferson because he can negate some of Jefferson's mistakes, but doesn't demand touches on offense like Howard does.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 11:04 pm
by HolyToledo
I agree with Mr. Jazz propoganda and I will go a step further and say Favors will be in the Allstar game for the next 10 years. I do disagree with Locke on another issue about benching Jefferson. In a way he agrees with me that would be best for the team on the court, but he says cant do it bc you are embarrassing him and hurting his trade value. His trade value is non-existent.
A woman walked on the court during the Lakers-Nuggets game, and someone in the national media tweeted lucky Jefferson wasnt on the court because she would score on him as well. No NBA team would want this guy unless they dump an unwanted big contract on the Jazz (once again Kevin Martin?)
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 11:06 pm
by StocktonShorts
I feel like this move is partly because Corbin doesn't have the balls to bench Jefferson or Millsap. Maybe he's right to coddle them but it worries me. If he's kowtowing to those guys, how will he handle a star-sized ego?
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 11:22 pm
by pumpfake ersan
last game of the season
enes kanter was never in starting5, thank you corbin, i hope big al will make you in the future happy

Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Mon May 7, 2012 11:54 pm
by HolyToledo
Jazz are a big dog in Vegas but I think we win maybe even going away with the lineup change. Spurs are satisfied to win one here. Game 5 well will be our last game.
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Tue May 8, 2012 12:17 am
by HolyToledo
how do you not bench big al!!!! He is the problem!!
Re: Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz
Posted: Tue May 8, 2012 12:17 am
by carrottop12
Wow Al Jefferson can't get out to 36 year old Tim Duncan, even when his playoff life depends on it, and it's still only the first quarter.
Guy can't move his feet.