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Looking around the league there seem to be very few "get-able" young PGs. Bledsoe, Vasquez and Maynor seem like the best, most get-able guys. I'm just curious what people think of these guys and if they would work out, what it would take, etc, etc.

None of those interest me.......

Avery Bradley from Boston is one player I would love the Jazz to go after, lockdown defender, with a developing perimeter game......

I'm leaning towards PGs because that seems to be the only position the Jazz don't have any youth at.

I like Bledsoe a lot, I was hoping he would be included in the mo trade out of the 3 mentioned I like bledsoe best. I like the pg for the Brazilian national team Huertas he's played pretty well in the Olympics.

red4hf wrote:None of those interest me.......

Avery Bradley from Boston is one player I would love the Jazz to go after, lockdown defender, with a developing perimeter game......

Even with his shoulder injury problems, I would think he would be difficult to get from Boston. They probably won't be able to pay both him and Rondo.

I agree with you. He would be nice.

I want a PG who actually manages the game and gets others involved. Bledsoe is not that guy. He is just a basketball player who happens to play the point guard position but he is not a point guard, not in the conventional sense anyway. Btw, he averaged more turnovers than assists in college and his Assitst\TO ratio in the NBA is also pretty horrible.

Avery Bradely is not a PG. Good defender, but I feel he quickly became somewhat overrated.

Maynor I wouldn't mind getting as a backup and a backup only, on a contract that makes sense. His injury gives me pause. I wouldn't go hard after him, just offer him what he's worth and not overpay. If he got better offers - god bless. wish him luck and move on.

Vasquez - Love him. Wanted the Jazz to draft him. I would love to see him on the Jazz as a backup for starters for a trial run, and after that who knows.

Inigo Montoya wrote:I want a PG who actually manages the game and gets others involved. Bledsoe is not that guy. He is just a basketball player who happens to play the point guard position but he is not a point guard, not in the conventional sense anyway. Btw, he averaged more turnovers than assists in college and his Assitst\TO ratio in the NBA is also pretty horrible.

Avery Bradely is not a PG. Good defender, but I feel he quickly became somewhat overrated.

Maynor I wouldn't mind getting as a backup and a backup only, on a contract that makes sense. His injury gives me pause. I wouldn't do hard after him, just offer him what he's worth and not overpay. If he got better offers - god bless. wish him luck and move on.

Vasquez - Love him. Wanted the Jazz to draft him. I would love to see him on the Jazz as a backup for starters for a trial run, and after that who knows.

Honestly I haven't seen much of him outside of highlight reels. I like what I've seen in his ability to find the right man on the fast break, but I don't know much else about his game. With N.O. shaping Rivers to play the point do they need Vasquez, or would they rather have a vet?

I think that if NO wanted a vet, they would keep Jarret Jack instead of trading him to the Warriors. As it stands, it looks like Vasquez will be their backup PG if Rivers will start. Unless I missed a free agency move, it looks like the only point guards on the roster are Vasquez and Rivers, and Rivers is not a point guard. NO will find this out the hard way.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of a good backup PG on the market right now (Derek Fisher? doesn't qualify) so as it stands I think NO are content with Vasquez as a backup.

I really like Maynor and I feel he could start for us.
He sets a really good pace for the offense and is pass first.

Has a nice driving floater and a decent 3pt shot.

If we didnt trade him he would probably be starting for us now.

I think Mo, Earl, Jamaal and Randy are enough for now. Only Earl and Jamaal can be traded, so if one goes out and Maynor comes in I'd be cool with it.

I know it is really early to talk about this, but the next offseason is really interesting, and I can't wait to see how the Jazz roster will shape up, and what will KOC do at the long-term PG front. I like that he didn't go after anyone this year and threw money at FA point guards this year. Dying to find out if he could manage to get another top PG here, or get one in the draft.

I am a huge Lowery fan and wished we went after him. We do have 2 #1 picks next year so if we want to draft or trade for a PG next yearthen we definitely can so Im not too worried about it. Who knows maybe Mo Williams is the guy?

Vasquez is an absolute stud...He's Bobby Sura 2.0.

babyjax13 wrote:Vasquez is an absolute stud...He's Bobby Sura 2.0.

Not sure if that was sarcasm, but Sura was a pretty good player.

HolyToledo wrote:I am a huge Lowery fan and wished we went after him. We do have 2 #1 picks next year so if we want to draft or trade for a PG next yearthen we definitely can so Im not too worried about it. Who knows maybe Mo Williams is the guy?

I'm actually not that big of a fan of Lowry and glad we didn't take him. But you're right about the next draft. There are quite a few PGs there so maybe we'll get a good one. Mo is ok for this year, but I always thought he was an excellent sixth man and an average starter. He is also not all that young anymore, and we need another piece to our young core that can play with them for a long time. Also, Mo definitely makes sense with the current inside-out post offense roster, but I wonder what KOC will make with the roster next season, and if he will chose to keep a roster that plays half court post offense first, or if he will transform the roster to fit to a more uptempo , faster pace PnR style of play which need a distributing PG which we are all accustomed of seeing (meaning PG, not style of play).

Out of those listed I prefer Bledsoe. Though I put a very high premium on defense.

Bledsoe is a very good defensive player with good size, strength and quickness for the PG position. He passes the ball well enough on team with another playmaker like Hayward. He doesn't have a consistent outside shot and their are injury concerns with him. Right now he is a change of pace player who ratches up the Defense and pushes the ball full court.

As for the Assist to TO thing in college he played Shooting Guard next to John Wall. He hasn't been great in the NBA either at Assist to Turnover but he still spends a lot of time as a shooting guard.

Vasquez is a terrible defender, a streaky shooter and on the slow end of NBA point guards. IMO he is an okay backup and that is all he will ever be.

Maynor is okay on defense but lacks the size or strenght to ever be more than average. He is a smart player with a 3 pt shot. He looks like another career backup point guard.

In the end we need to look elsewhere for a longterm starting point guard solution.

Out of those listed I prefer Bledsoe. Though I put a very high premium on defense.

Bledsoe is a very good defensive player with good size, strength and quickness for the PG position. He passes the ball well enough on team with another playmaker like Hayward. He doesn't have a consistent outside shot and their are injury concerns with him. Right now he is a change of pace player who ratches up the Defense and pushes the ball full court.

As for the Assist to TO thing in college he played Shooting Guard next to John Wall. He hasn't been great in the NBA either at Assist to Turnover but he still spends a lot of time as a shooting guard.

The guy is 6-1. If he wasn't good enough of a PG to play PG in college to the point where his coach preferred to play him at SG in the collegiate level, and then again in the NBA level (Clippers), why would you want him to play the point guard position for your team (Jazz)?

Can't shoot, Can't pass well enough, not a PG, turns it over too much, too short for SG + injury concerns, and according to the way you described him, you make him sound like Ronny Price 2.0 . No thanks.

Inigo Montoya wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:Vasquez is an absolute stud...He's Bobby Sura 2.0.

Not sure if that was sarcasm, but Sura was a pretty good player.

HolyToledo wrote:I am a huge Lowery fan and wished we went after him. We do have 2 #1 picks next year so if we want to draft or trade for a PG next yearthen we definitely can so Im not too worried about it. Who knows maybe Mo Williams is the guy?

I'm actually not that big of a fan of Lowry and glad we didn't take him. But you're right about the next draft. There are quite a few PGs there so maybe we'll get a good one. Mo is ok for this year, but I always thought he was an excellent sixth man and an average starter. He is also not all that young anymore, and we need another piece to our young core that can play with them for a long time. Also, Mo definitely makes sense with the current inside-out post offense roster, but I wonder what KOC will make with the roster next season, and if he will chose to keep a roster that plays half court post offense first, or if he will transform the roster to fit to a more uptempo , faster pace PnR style of play which need a distributing PG which we are all accustomed of seeing (meaning PG, not style of play).

It wasn't sarcasm, he's fantastic to watch. I'm not saying he's as good (well, I think he can be - pretty easily)) but he is a talent and would at the very least be able to compete with Williams immediatly. There is a reason New Orleans traded Jack - and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Austin Rivers.

Zero interest in any of them. Vasquez can't shoot, Bledsoe = Ronnie Price 2.0, and Eric Maynor is well..Eric Maynor. I expect Foye to handle more PG duties and we see less of Tinsley/Watson who can come in to throw lobs to Evans.

Bledsoe is really good. Plays elite defense at the 1 or the 2, can really finish in transition and his shot seems to be improving (isn't broken at least). I disagree with the ronnie price 2.0 comment because ronnie didn't have his size, length (wingspan), strength or anticipation to be as disruptive on defense.

I think the jazz need to take gambles on players like him. If he figures out how to shoot he's close to being Kyle Lowry. I don't think we need a traditional point guard in our system and we have wings who can distribute and handle the ball to compensate. I'd be thrilled if we picked him up.

ut_jazz wrote:Zero interest in any of them. Vasquez can't shoot, Bledsoe = Ronnie Price 2.0, and Eric Maynor is well..Eric Maynor. I expect Foye to handle more PG duties and we see less of Tinsley/Watson who can come in to throw lobs to Evans.

43% with 32% 3-pt = can't shoot for a point guard? (as a starter 45% and 33%).