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Espn has suggested a 3 team deal for Jazz, Lakers, and Bobcats. ESPN are you kidding me?

In essense the Jazz trade away Kanter, Millsap, Jefferson for Gasol and Kemba Walker.

I like Gasol a lot to play alongside Favors but no way am I trading away Kanter for anyone unless Rondo is coming to town. Terrible trade suggested by ESPN for the Jazz as giving uo way too much.

Horrible deal.

This is actually pretty decent. If the Jazz were to land a draft pick or two out of it, then it would be awfully tempting. And come on, you wouldn't trade Kanter for anyone but Rondo?

QuantumMacgyver wrote:This is actually pretty decent. If the Jazz were to land a draft pick or two out of it, then it would be awfully tempting. And come on, you wouldn't trade Kanter for anyone but Rondo?

i wouldn't trade Enes for any one, season two and he will be, if not best, a top 3 big men in this league. Plus this trade is horible, ok with picks it would be some kind better but still, giving Al/Sap/Enes for two chokers( i like Kemba so maybe its not fer to call him like that ) and aging guy, its just bad.

This is bad. bad bad bad. Need a way better player than Kemba. Maybe not Rondo, but at least someone on the level of Stephen Curry or John Wall (not those guys specifically)

DelaneyRudd wrote:This is bad. bad bad bad. Need a way better player than Kemba. Maybe not Rondo, but at least someone on the level of Stephen Curry or John Wall (not those guys specifically)

Steph specifically would be perfect , shame that he already sign multi year contract if he did not do that i think he would be Jazz prio for up coming summer

If we separate it out this is the Jazz trading Millsap + Jefferson for Pau and Kanter for Kemba.

Let's first look at Millsap + Jefferson for Pau. Right now Gasol isn't even playing and he's due a crapton of money over the next 18 months. Even if you think he'll come back and play at a high level, you're doing the Lakers a huge favor for taking his contract off their books. And there's no way the Jazz trade two starting bigs for one big.

Next we have Kanter for Kemba. What has changed in the past 18 months since the draft to make the Jazz think they should've drafted Kemba over Kanter? That's basically what this amounts to.

So, in short, the Jazz would trade three of their four rotation bigs for a guy with bad knees and yet another scoring PG-who-isn't-really-a-point-guard, leaving us with a depth chart like this:

Center: Gasol
PF: Favors, Evans
SF: Marvin, Carroll
SG: Hayward, Foye, Burks, Bell, Murphy
PG: Mo, Kemba, Tinsley, Earl

Thanks, but no thanks. Tom Haberstroh can go suck a bag of Kobe cocks.

Hate it!

It is entertaining to me how people want a washed up has been (Pau), and are willing to give away talented young players for them.

Milsap+Jefferson for Pau -- cmon
Kanter for Kemba - never trade a big for a small (said this just for you StoctonShorts), but especially a big with prospects for an above average PG.

Your not gonna get kemba for kanter right now. Kemba's in that weird place where he's putting up boardline allstar level numbers with tons of room to grow but people are not buying it yet. With that said, Jordan can't justify to the bobcats fanbase a trade for Kanter at this point, kemba's playing too good for a guy only in his sophmore season.

And I still don't see the point in getting gasol but whatever ...

It's a terrible trade...... I almost threw up the first time I read it.......

I wouldn't trade Big Al for Gasol. So giving up Millsap and Kanter for Kemba Walker... umm I'll pass. How many Kanters are there in the NBA, while the league is full of PG's as good or better than Walker. Walker is not a big upgrade over Mo anyways, so what's the whole point of this trade?

I'm a huge Gasol and Kemba fan and I'm still throwing up over that deal... that's just terrible.

What else would you expect from Laker-centric ESPN. In their minds, the rest of the league exist for the Lakers and Knicks to have teams to play against.

Good point

I think the same thing as I read the scribble on ESPN

Big Trio for Pau/Kemba - Lindsey probably is not that stupid. With Favors, Evans and Pau Jazz will be weaker in froncourt than yet. The more that Evans is a small forward in a power forward's body, like Sap or Smith or ... LBJ. In backcourt get a little more than a better Mo.

Jazz have one true center (Kanter), one solid false center (Jefferson), a lot of great PF's(Favors, Sap, Evans), a lot of solid SF's (Hayward, Carroll, Marvin) and a lot of weak guard's, especially in the defense and attack construction (Tinsley is an exception because Watson plays like he wants to, and Bell is out).

Maybe Malone was right when he said that Burks would be a great PG?

Jazz needs a TRUE playmaker right now but even more need a LEGITIMATE coach. Corbin is weak as a pudding. Adelman, Sloan, Fratello, JvG - they would do once the order with the guys and their game, same Vogel with Pacers.

Do you guys think this is a good deal:

Odom + Bledsoe for Millsap + Watson.

Odom is expiring so he is more of a filler. Bledsoe still has another year on his rookie deal and he is a stud in the making. Actually he would probably start for 10 -15 teams right now if he wasnt playing behind the best pg in NBA. He is just 23 years old and his raw / advanced stats are off the charts. Right now he is averaging 10/3/3 with 1.5 spg on 50/38/80 (fg/3/ft) in just 18,5 mpg. His PER is at an outrageous 24,2 rate (second highest pg in NBA after CP3).

Plus it opens up more pt for Favors and Kanter.

I think Clippers might do it since they can use Millsap as a supersub at SF/PF/C and Billups can partially fill the void left by Bledsoe as back-up pg.

Not bad. The Jazz have the only known commodity in this. It gives the Jazz a possibility that they get a long term PG. I think the Jazz could hold out for a second pick here, but that's splitting hairs.

I don't know if Millsap is a great fit with LAC though. Griffin and Jordan are the the starters so what's to keep Millsap from being overpaid by Orlando or Sacramento? He's not the type of guy who's going to be a star, but he has the type of game and aspirations to be the head guy on a team. He does have the clutch gene.

eLo wrote:i wouldn't trade Enes for any one, season two and he will be, if not best, a top 3 big men in this league.

Any interest in Gortat? We can also provide you with a young pure PG straight from the lotto.

Jazz get: Gortat/Frye/Brown/Marshall
Suns get: Jefferson/Milsap

Polish Jazz fans like myself have studied this exchange in such a way

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=clfvyqj

However, MG is too rigid, inflexible in the game.

It would be interesting

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cylveqq

I'm not sure I could swallow three years of Drew Gooden.