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Mo Williams has damage in his right thumb and is out indefinitely. One week? One month? Rest of season? No one knows yet, but lets assume this week we find out he is out two or more months. Can this team survive with Tinsely and Watson? Its not like Mo Williams was that good of PG anyway, but he was best allround player out of the three. Is it time to trade Millsap and/or Big Al to get our future PG? Here are some that might fit for the Jazz.

Lowry: Bargnani/Lowry to Jazz for Millsap/Mo williams/ Jazz #1 pick 2013/GSW pick
Rondo: Rondo to Jazz for Kanter/Mo Williams/ Jazz #1 pick 2013/GSW pick
Jack: Jarret Jack/Bogut for Big Al/Bell/Watson (Bogut likely done for season)
Gordon: Gordon/Aminu for Big Al/Bell/Evans/Jazz #1 pick 2013/GSW pick
Thomas: Thomas/Cousins/Garcia/Salmons for Big Al/Kanter

I would push for the Lowry deal above.

Lowry: Bargnani/Lowry to Jazz for Millsap/Mo williams/ Jazz #1 pick 2013/GSW pick
Jack: Jarret Jack/Bogut for Big Al/Bell/Watson (Bogut likely done for season)

If the Jazz trade Al/Millsap it won't be for another big. Getting Bargnani or an injury prone Bogut defeats the purpose of trading Al/Millsap.

Rondo: Rondo to Jazz for Kanter/Mo Williams/ Jazz #1 pick 2013/GSW pick

The Celtics can get a better deal for Rondo - it's not like the league is crazy about Kanter right now. Even if u put Al in that trade, Boston still wouldn't be too interested.

What do you guys think about Brandon Knight? Do you think an Al Jefferson for Knight and Maggette would be a good trade for both teams?

I think Knight fit in well here in Utah, and I think Big Al would be a beast next to Monroe. Maggette is just in there to match salaries as he is only getting 14 mpg for the.

Thoughts??

Can't see Detroit trading Knight for what the Jazz would offer.

Calderon for Big Al sure calderon's defense sucks but he's a good PG in our system plus we get rid of Al.

I would venture a guess that the front office plays the guys we have and stands pat.

I don't think the FO is going to make a move right now......

Hopefully, Mo's injury will convince Corbin to play the youngsters more......

I've long been an admirer of Kyle Lowry and thought him destined for prominence quite a while before he hit it big in Houston, but the past year has soured me on him a bit.

Firstly, he struck a non-communicative impasse with, reputedly, one of the most amiable people in the NBA in Kevin McHale. And this after thriving in the latter's system. Secondly, having watched a fair amount of Raptors' action thus far, he has on a couple occasions shown more respect for his own game management than that of coach Dwane Casey; just little things about his conduct that made plain he was doing his own thing and not really listening to anyone else. Thirdly, though he's always been solidly built, he's a little doughy at the moment, according to the Basketball Jones guys - staunch Toronto fans. Now, it's very likely that he's one of those with a slow metabolism and needs to be practising and playing regularly to stay fit; he'd missed several weeks with an ankle injury before the latest tricep tear. Which slips nicely to my fourth concern: that he is accumulating a significant history of health and injury problems. I'd be wary of picking up this guy, Toledo.

I don't think the Celtics are giving up their very fairly paid Rondo, thereby inheriting Utah's current situation in terms of a point guard search.

I've been wondering whether the Clippers' Eric Bledsoe would be a good get for a while now, but I'd need to see a bit more of him to make a better assessment.

Hows Reddick at the point?

... plays it like a shooting guard without great handles, I'd imagine.

Lowry is overrated. he really didn't achieve anything as a starter yet. He gets injured a lot, and his relatively attractive contract will expire next year, and I wouldn't want the Jazz to pay him more.

I like Rondo but I don't see how the Jazz will get him. Also, I think he will be far less effective as a player if he will be forced to play with a post player who actually posts up, and generally he will be less effective in a team who attempts to play an inside-out game like the Jazz.

I'm ok with Jack. As a backup.

Eric Gordon is not a PG. He is also injured A LOT. If he was healthy, it would be great to see him with the Jazz. Of course if he was healthy, we would never get him. I'm all about Greivis Vásquez though. Give me some of that.

Thomas is a backup most likely. And could you ever imagine Cousins wearing a Jazz uniform? I don't see the Jazz shaking up their roster because they really need their PG of the future just to end up with Isiah Thomas.


Like I said earlier this year - I don't see any attractive PGs out there that the Jazz could realistically get. PGs that will really make a difference and take this team to the next level and be a long term solution. There is a decent selection of PGs in the draft though.

Ern III wrote:
Firstly, he struck a non-communicative impasse with, reputedly, one of the most amiable people in the NBA in Kevin McHale. And this after thriving in the latter's system. Secondly, having watched a fair amount of Raptors' action thus far, he has on a couple occasions shown more respect for his own game management than that of coach Dwane Casey; just little things about his conduct that made plain he was doing his own thing and not really listening to anyone else. Thirdly, though he's always been solidly built, he's a little doughy at the moment, according to the Basketball Jones guys - staunch Toronto fans.

Problems respecting a coach; runs plays his own way; a little pudgy; sounds like someone else we know.

StocktonShorts wrote:

Ern III wrote:
Firstly, he struck a non-communicative impasse with, reputedly, one of the most amiable people in the NBA in Kevin McHale. And this after thriving in the latter's system. Secondly, having watched a fair amount of Raptors' action thus far, he has on a couple occasions shown more respect for his own game management than that of coach Dwane Casey; just little things about his conduct that made plain he was doing his own thing and not really listening to anyone else. Thirdly, though he's always been solidly built, he's a little doughy at the moment, according to the Basketball Jones guys - staunch Toronto fans.

Problems respecting a coach; runs plays his own way; a little pudgy; sounds like someone else we know.

only less talented. if he was at the level of deron i'd obviously have no problem with us getting him, but he's not, so no thanks. next hypothetical pg please.

Wolverine wrote:Hows Reddick at the point?

He used to be known as an off-the-ball scorer, but has shown this year that he has decent handling and playmaking abilities. He's still mainly an off-the-ball guy though.

Eric Bledsoe

13th best PER in the entire league and second best PER for a point guard right behind his own teammate Chris Paul. Extremely athletic, gets out and runs the break but is working to improve his half court game. Attacks the basket so relentlessly that people are having to play off of him which is leading to his best shooting season this year. 20.4 points, 5.8 rebounds and 6.3 assists are his per-40-minute numbers.

Ern III wrote:Firstly, he struck a non-communicative impasse with, reputedly, one of the most amiable people in the NBA in Kevin McHale.

You must be joking! Kevin McHale is one of the most double tongued coaches in the NBA. He makes Floppy Moose look like a straight talker.

Lowry is not the first player to call McHale's bluff. Lowry would be an awesome addition to the Jazz, but I don't think that we are going to get him cheaply.

Somebody made a Marcus Smart thread months ago, and ever since I've been man crushing on him. I'd rather the Jazz move Big Al for draft picks and unwanted salaries. For instance; does anyone think the Wiz would be interested in the following trade?

Jazz trade:
Big Al+Raja Bell

Jazz receive:
Emeka Okafor
Trevor Ariza
Top 3 protected pick

The Jazz take on an additional year of $20 million, but in return for taking on these salaries they also receive a potential top 5 lotto pick. Odds are the Jazz aren't signing anyone notable from the free agency pool this summer so the $20 million will likely be spent on average players on 1 year deals anyhow.

The Wizards lose a potentially high lotto pick in a presumably weak draft, but in return get out from under $20 million that they can use to bring in veterans to play with a bevy of high lotto picks already on the roster. Not to mention Big Al, whom would make a pretty dynamic duo down low for the Wiz.
John Wall, Bradley Beal and Jan Vesely are all high lotto picks and under the age of 25(i believe).

Wizards:
Wall
Beal
Vesely
Big Al
Nene

Now is a good time to make a move, but we can easily survive with Tinsley and Watson.

In fact, I think the possession distribution will be a lot better with those two as our only point guards.

QuantumMacgyver wrote:Somebody made a Marcus Smart thread months ago, and ever since I've been man crushing on him. I'd rather the Jazz move Big Al for draft picks and unwanted salaries. For instance; does anyone think the Wiz would be interested in the following trade?

Jazz trade:
Big Al+Raja Bell

Jazz receive:
Emeka Okafor
Trevor Ariza
Top 3 protected pick

The Jazz take on an additional year of $20 million, but in return for taking on these salaries they also receive a potential top 5 lotto pick. Odds are the Jazz aren't signing anyone notable from the free agency pool this summer so the $20 million will likely be spent on average players on 1 year deals anyhow.

The Wizards lose a potentially high lotto pick in a presumably weak draft, but in return get out from under $20 million that they can use to bring in veterans to play with a bevy of high lotto picks already on the roster. Not to mention Big Al, whom would make a pretty dynamic duo down low for the Wiz.
John Wall, Bradley Beal and Jan Vesely are all high lotto picks and under the age of 25(i believe).

Wizards:
Wall
Beal
Vesely
Big Al
Nene

while i also like marcus smart, he is not a point guard. he is a combo guard - even he says so himself, and we all need to take that under consideration when we fantasize on our next PG of the future.

regarding the trade you offered, i think the jazz take way too much salary for a guy you might not end up getting, who is not a PG, and in a weak draft. what are you going to do with ariza if marvin opts in? you still have hayward and burks too. same goes for okafor - it is just extending the problem of playing time for favors and kanter by another year. i'd rather use that 20M to make a strong push for john wall (which wouldn't work, but he's worth a shot).

and vesely sucks, and he can't play the 3.

QuantumMacgyver wrote:... does anyone think the Wiz would be interested in the following trade?

Jazz trade:
Big Al+Raja Bell

Jazz receive:
Emeka Okafor
Trevor Ariza
Top 3 protected pick

It is a clever idea, but I think that there is no chance that Washington does it. The reason why? Minimum Team Salary.

They would have to resign free agents as soon as Big Al and Bell expire i=to meet the minimum team salary of approximately $44 million, and my estimation is that not many free agents want to sign with Washington. So their best case is to resign Big Al and he is not worth a top three pick, only to be extended with a contract longer than the ones they just got rid of.

If they thought that they could sign someone like Kevin Love, then they may do it.