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Hey Jazz fans

Quick question for you. I like Rudy Gay and everytime i see Memphis hey performs well. Should we trade for him?
His salary is massive but could be the kind of explosive player on the wing we need.

Trade ideas ??

I would trade Bell/M Williams /Milsap .
I reckon keep Burks , Hayward and Jefferson.. Yes Jefferson as i dont think Kanter is ready to start just yet and Kanter can be used for backup to either..

Thoughts anyone

It would probably take more than nothing to get him. Bell= nothing, Mo expiring= nothing, Millsap expiring= nothing. Add it all together and you get nothing. Basically it would cost Hayward at the very least.

I like Rudy Gay as well, but it makes you wonder when the guy who invented PER joins the team and instantly Rudy is on the block.

Memphis would like to get out of the luxury tax, approx $4M. They made their playoff run without him last year. They are no longer playing like they will be competing for the title this year. He is the most expendable of their big contracts. I think it makes sense to trade him but not for garbage.

this is what a writer "Zach Lowe" wrote about us and trading for Rudy Gay.. (it is an interesting idea but I'm worried it'll turn into a VERY expensive Marvin Williams..).

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Maybe my favorite Rudy Gay wild card, even if it’s hard to find anyone around the league who thinks Utah is quite ready for such a shakeup. One caveat: Utah is only about $3.3 million under the tax, meaning the Jazz (like Boston) can’t get Memphis all the way under without finding a third team to take on a cheap Grizz player.

Utah does have an extra first-round pick from the Warriors — the same one Golden State tanked so furiously to keep last season. A package of Marvin Williams/Raja Bell/Alec Burks/Warriors pick would have to at least pique Memphis’ interest. Williams has been a bust in Utah, but he’s a solid defender and rebounder with a history of hitting corner 3's. Burks is a prospect at what will be a position of need if Tony Allen signs elsewhere this summer. You could switch Enes Kanter in for Burks as the token young Jazz man heading to Memphis, and then replace Bell with a cheaper guy, such as DeMarre Carroll.

Again: Both deals would leave Memphis $1 million or so over the tax line, meaning they’d either have to eat a smaller tax payment, get some cash from Utah, or dump someone else along the way.

Such a deal would represent a drastic change of course for Utah. The Jazz have patiently set themselves up for a summer in which they could choose between Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, and still have max-level cap room after re-signing one of them via Bird Rights. Acquiring Gay now would soak up $17.9 million of that cap room, meaning Utah would effectively have to lose both bigs in order to be a real player at the top levels of free agency. It’s also unclear if Gordon Hayward has the quicks and shooting range to play two-guard full-time.

You just don't take on that kind of years and salary for a Max player who is performing at 60% of his contract value.

If Hayward or even Marvin were allowed to play as many minutes and take as many shots as Gay, they might have similar overall stats. Given that they cost (or are anticipated to cost) the Jazz half the salary of Gay, it doesn't make sense to me.

I'd sooner trade for 1.5 years of Gasol at $19M than 2.5 years of Gay at $18M.

Rudy is Gay,

Hu hu hu hu hu hu

Rudy Gay doesn't make enough of a positive influence on his team to justify his salary. He got payed for a bunch of superficial #'s while a number of widely accepted advanced stats say he's not much more efficient than your all-star caliber player. I don't think the Jazz will be fooled by the distraction of Rudy Gay when they have to carefully plan on focusing on and resigning their young core in the next few years.

Neon Black wrote: while a number of widely accepted advanced stats say he's not much more efficient than your all-star caliber player.

Did you mean to say that he's more efficient than an all-star caliber player? Because he's never been an all-star and you're suggesting that he's been better than an all-star.

Here's a question....

Given that we could, would you rather have the Jazz trade for Rudy Gay, Danny Granger or Loul Deng?

StocktonShorts wrote:

Neon Black wrote: while a number of widely accepted advanced stats say he's not much more efficient than your all-star caliber player.

Did you mean to say that he's more efficient than an all-star caliber player? Because he's never been an all-star and you're suggesting that he's been better than an all-star.

No. I was typing quickly on my phone. I intended to say that while many seem to look at his stats and consider him an all-star caliber guy (including the people who payed him) advanced stats and win shares show that he is NOT at that level.

Not sure why I phrased it the way I did before.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Here's a question....

Given that we could, would you rather have the Jazz trade for Rudy Gay, Danny Granger or Loul Deng?

I'll probably make a play for Deng.

I would not trade any of Burks, Hayward, Favors or Kanter for him. Our core is too early in their career arc to justify this IMO. We need someone we can keep beyond 2 years. Rudy prob opts into that third year, but still I wouldn't give up burks for him. Burks is going to be really, really good. Rudy gay is real good, but at a max deal. I think Burks is more valuable to this team on this deal over the next 7-8 years than Rudy will be for the next 2-3.

If we had a great starting PG already, I might be more inclined to this trade since we'd be closer to contention, but Rudy isn't the missing piece we need now. We need time for the young uns, keep all of them. Sign some solid free agents and try and find that PG in the draft. Just my opinion though.

Maaaaybe I'd pull the trigger and give Burks up if we kept both picks, but if we're giving up one or two, or future firsts, I'm out. We need those to add to the core after we extend Favors (max), Hayward (a lot), and eventually Kanter (prob $10M). I like the fit for basketball reasons (he's a better version of Marvin Williams, we really need that kind of athlete in transition and defense), but the timing / salary is off in my opinion. I'm not really about wins now though (just when favors / kanter are peaking), so if that's what we're after, we'd unquestionably be better.