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VS

Wednesday 30th, January 2013
Salt Lake City, Utah
7:00 MWT
Energy Solutions Arena





- López - Davis - Aminu - Gordon - Vasquez




- Jefferson - Millsap - Williams - Foye - Tinsley





KEY PLAYERS FROM THE BENCH


- Rivers - Thomas - Smith - Anderson - Roberts



- Favors - Hayward* - Watson - Kanter - Carroll
* Day to day

TEAMS LEADERS:



E. Gordon
PPG:17.4 SPG: 1.4


A. Davis [i]
RPG: 7.6 BPG: 1.8


G. Vasquez
APG:9.3





A. Jefferson
PPG: 17.0 RPG: 9.6


Mo Williams (injuried)
APG: 6.7


P. Millsap
SPG:1.4


D. Favors
BPG:1.5

Time to get back on track. They are not Houston. Houston was unbelievable. I would like to see everyone do good. It would give value to the players we might want to trade in the future which is inevidable.

Is Hayward coming back tonight?

Their team is surprisingly equal or greater in each role, mainly the starters and some of the bench! Even if they don't got the total wins to show it. They do have wins though, @Memphis, Spurs, Rockets, Bucks, @Bulls, @Clippers, @Mavs and Jazz(we can only claim 2 of these wins(home wins versus Spurs and Rockets)).


Conclusion:
Our bench is deeper so were going to need every last player doing their averages, just like every win. Well, you minus the 1-2 people who you can never depend on, now minus Hayward and Mo, were missing a lot of points and floor presence! 2 people is the minimum we can have not produce and still win, 3 will absolutely murder us

I just wonder how Marvin will do, he is the big upset and is our losing x-factor(when we have one more guy on top having a bad day it just kills us)(everyone who has had slumps(like Millsap) they get out of the ruts. Marvin has been in a slump all year(he is below his career averages(and below his last seasons performance(which was his expectations when we got him)), and he is at his lowest season ppg and per 48.

With Hayward out that is all it takes to be that 2nd person who kills it, which is what we saw versus HOU, cause there was more than a 3rd person who didn't produce! If any starter not Marvin has a low day, were done. If our bench can't do what they do, were done, and now on top of that, they need to split up haywards production.
We have no chance without him, its like having no Shooting Forwards, Hayward and Carroll made up for Marvin's lack of performance.


Carroll, who has proved to be the better choice that doesn't mess with our current 2nd Unit. Every team has 5 great starters, not 3.5 or 4. With Carroll, we have a solid 5 man group. I just think with Jefferson and Millsaps play, and especially with Foye, Carroll's defense fits better than Marvin's "shooting". We could use Marvins shooting on the bench, especially with Hayward out, Carroll replacing hayward doesn't help, cause we need actual shooting from the SF on the bench.

Tinsley/Foye/Carroll/Millsap/Jefferson (best starters)
Watson/Burks/Hayward/Favors/Kanter (best bench)
Tinsley/Foye/Hayward/Millsap/Jefferson (best clutch)

Murphy and Evans come in for the finishing lap....

edfmx86 wrote:Is Hayward coming back tonight?

I believe ESPN and Locke have both reported him as sitting tonight.

Yeah that is what I read. Hayward is not replaceable, then again I said the same thing about Mo, and we adjusted.

I just wonder if Burks or someone can come in and make big plays and win this game. I just wonder if we turned a corner or we fell off a cliff...I just don't think we can win without Hayward, not with other guys not having season high nights. Jefferson, Millsap and Foye are all gonna need 15+ each, Favors, Burks, and Kanter are gonna need to have 30 combined.

Of our 10 man rotation, Tinsley, Watson, Marvin, Carroll, Burks, and Kanter, normally make up about 30 points, which is over half the team. Jefferson and Millsap make about 30 a night. Favors, Foye and Hayward make about 30 a night, so tonight, Foye and Favors make about 20.

See any pattern here? 30 + 30 + 20 = 80......Our score minus Hayward(and Mo), we don't make 90 points a night without Hayward(especially without Mo(they make up our 2 top scorers after Al and Paul).

As far as how we allowed 145 points, which is about 50 more than we normally do.....I blame a mix of no mo and hayward, with the fact that tinsley, watson, marvin, foye and jefferson don't play much defense compared to Carroll, Hayward, Favors, Burks and Kanter. Which is why our defensive rating, is rated #25 in the league(phoenix has a higher rating). Without Mo, our Offensive Eff. probably goes from top 10ish to the current 12th, and without Hayward its probably more like 15-20th!

I hate this team as presently constituted.

I'm getting sick of watching these losers play........

apart of the horrible shot he forced when double teamed, favors is playing great. corbin should leave him on the floor as much as possible. don't yank him out unless he is tired or in foul trouble!

I love watching Favors and Kanter, but Big Al and Millsap are lame, and I am barely tolerating Marvin, even though I really hate him.

Carroll is tough, and actually does something, but he still needs to get a better shot. Foye is the only dependent 3pt shooter on this team right now, outside of Hayward.

I bet dollar to donouts, you start our core 4 with Carroll and they would do a way better job than these starters. That way these starters could face easier opponents, to make it easier for them so they can actually look like a real unit.

I always get so happy in the 2nd quarter....

Then I sit in the corner through the 3rd...

big al is passing the rock

The right guys are doing the right things.

Our bench was such the big impact. They really stepped up without Hayward. I think their youngness didn't prepare them for losing their key player. But it just shows how mature they are getting. I mean Murphy and Evans went up like 2 levels alone.

Burks is such a badass...I don't see why he isn't the permanent SG for the 2nd Unit!!

Free Burks is in effect!!!

Favors + Burks = Awesomeerness

Oh sweet, our favorite lineup of soon to be turned-around (in the employment sense) vets to finish the game. ajkhUNISYAILUDYBASUILDYASLDKNUAS.KDINASUDASMEIASE/BOU ASOIDGSADIL/SANDNASKDLASJ.DMOEIAO;NE ASEIYASDIKAS.HJDN AJSDKASDGASUYLDGADYUAGDUASDGASODGASODASDAS

Exciting game. A win is a win. Some good play from everyone. Cheers.

I can't believe they put Watson in clutch....Burks was doing way better....he can actually drive the lane...whens the last time Watson drawed a foul. Zone doesn't work with Burks cause he can draw defenders.

Burks 14 mins 8pt, 5/6 FT and 1 3pt, 1ast, 1stl, and 1pf.
Watson 25 mins 1pt 1/2 FT and 0/2 FG, 5ast, 5 reb, 4pf and actually has no TO's.


But still, Big Al and Millsap really gave us the points we need combined 47, Marivn + Foye for 25, and then Favors, Kanter and Burks combined for 25, and on top we got 4 from carroll, 1 from watson and 2 from tinsley. Honestly I can't remember the last time Foye and Marvin had 10+ each. Biggest game for Marvin in a long time, I truely hope he is out of his rut.

Favors and Burks in the teens, putting 20+ a night make us win everytime, especially if Hayward is also shooting around 15 a night. Kanter didn't get minutes but 4 minutes, 2pt and 2 rebounds..not bad...although 1 TO and PF.

Everyone did exactly what we needed to win...any less would have lost this, plus were lucky Eric Gordon was out. Favors seriously stepped up to take over Haywards 15 points, then burks stepped up to take Favors points, and then starters made enough to give us that cushion.