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Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:53 pm
by SoCalJazzFan
Many of us have been focused on what the Jazz could get for a 1/2 season, expiring Sap (mainly) or Al. However, couldn't the Jazz possibly not trade Sap or Al and instead do a sign and trade with another team this summer (still could only afford 1 expensive player coming back)? This could be a way for the player to get a longer/bigger contract and do the team a favor on the way out as a thank you for treating me so well.
If this is the scenario, do the teams and players expand from what they are now, and who could they be?
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 pm
by kebutah
S&T are as easy anymore. Teams over the CAP are not allowed to do them. There are more restrictions in the new CBA,
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:58 pm
by SoCalJazzFan
I don't think anything kicks in until 3 years after CBA, and I believe that it only limits teams that are so many millions over the tax threshhold, not the cap.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:36 am
by kebutah
This is from Larry Coon's FAQ:
Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade.
Starting in 2013-14, the team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception that season.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:21 am
by Inigo Montoya
so S&T is still possible this season without those restrictions, which come into play NEXT year.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:29 am
by kebutah
During the season it would be an extend and trade which was eliminated in this CBA, The S&T rules in this CBA begin when this season ends.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:41 am
by Inigo Montoya
thank for the info
do you have a link to this info (besides larry coon's cba faq)?
does anyone have a link to the NEW CBA (not the one from 2005 which you can find in the nbpa website)? and i mean the FULL NEW CBA and not just the few pages that were linked to the media during the lockout when they came to an agreement.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:59 am
by kebutah
ww.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:03 am
by Inigo Montoya
yeah, i know this one.
do you have a link to this info (besides larry coon's cba faq)?
i meant if there is a source of the actual new cba.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:14 am
by kebutah
I don't think it has been posted yet. It will be on the union web set eventually.
Re: Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:15 am
by StocktonShorts
Inigo Montoya wrote:yeah, i know this one.
do you have a link to this info (besides larry coon's cba faq)?
i meant if there is a source of the actual new cba.
Billy Hunter's niece was supposed to post it but he fired her.