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Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:49 pm
by StocktonShorts
Any second now.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:07 pm
by DelaneyRudd
What for? so he can go off and make more money? If he can find a team that wants him he'll have to agree to a buy out.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:26 pm
by StocktonShorts
I think the Jazz will want the roster spot.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:32 pm
by blackham9258
I think the Jazz were wise in keeping his contract to use it in a trade, and I really believe that had Gasol stayed healthy that we would have used Raja Bell in that deal. That being said if LA is the team that has interest in him, my thought is that the Jazz only waive/buy him out if he forgoes some salary and saves the Jazz some money because why would you help the Lakers try to catch you in the playoff race. (Not that Raja helps them a ton, but perhaps D'Antoni can utilize his 3 pt shooting and attitude and toughness).

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:59 pm
by kebutah
If Bell won't agree to a reduced buyout, hold him until Mar 1 so he can't be on a playoff roster. Since his main suitor is the Lakers I wouldn't want to help them even a little bit.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:04 pm
by StocktonShorts
kebutah wrote:If Bell won't agree to a reduced buyout, hold him until Mar 1 so he can't be on a playoff roster. Since his main suitor is the Lakers I wouldn't want to help them even a little bit.


But then whomever the Jazz might want to sign can't be on their playoff roster either.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:07 pm
by kebutah
We need to weigh the benefit of a signing. I think we have the players that the coach will play right now, so we can move to our first round sweep (by whomever).

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:14 pm
by HolyToledo12
Let Bell walk now. Hes a terrible player and if the Lakers or someone else wants him he simply makes that team worse bc he completely sucks.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:39 am
by SoCalJazzFan
Oddly, the Magic traded Josh McRoberts (expiring $3.1M) for Charlotte's Hakim Warrick ($4M, NG next year), and have indicated that they will buy him out. Could have been Raja instead??

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:47 pm
by Jajwanda
How bad was his defense in 2011-2012? Is he still at least decent in that category or is he a liability against most SG/SFs?

L.A. is looking for nothing more than someone that can play average to above average defense and hit some 3s when Metta World Peace decides he's Metta World James.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:07 pm
by Fido
The latest off of twitter:
Shams Charania: Raja Bell and Jazz have a buyout settlement in place, but it rests on Bell's ability to find a contract elsewhere. So far, still no takers. Twitter @ShamsCharania


Shams Charania: Bell's agent, Herb Rudoy, continues to talk to several teams. Bottom line, as it's been for months, is no team has stepped up to commit yet. Twitter @ShamsCharania


Raja will not give up any money through the buyout process unless he makes it up in his next contract. Unless the Jazz have a difference maker available who they want at the last minute, I bet they ride this out rather than waiving Bell and paying full price. No sense in making him available to your competition to play against you.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:03 am
by StocktonShorts
Fido wrote:No sense in making him available to your competition to play against you.


Have we all forgotten how Raja played for the Jazz? He's the perfect guy to make available to our competition.

He's like a trojan horse. Few coaches can resist his veteran savvy, his toughness and his occasional three-point make even as he's sabotaging their team.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:56 am
by eLo
his last year was not so bad, plus i don know what people were thinking when we sign him, that he will be total replacement for Wes and KK??? i dont think that any one was so dumb(except oconnor :) ) to believe in that, specially after all those injures he got in past. Still im saying leave Raja fire Corbin :P

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:18 am
by Inigo Montoya
just something i found:

For what it's worth, Raja Bell has been telling players and friends around the league that he'll join the Lakers. We'll see if it happens.


https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/306189342823571457

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:07 am
by The59Sound
Inigo Montoya wrote:just something i found:

For what it's worth, Raja Bell has been telling players and friends around the league that he'll join the Lakers. We'll see if it happens.


https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/306189342823571457


Kobe Bryant: DNP - CLOTHESLINED FOR STARTING ROLE

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:33 pm
by Jefff
pfff, get rid of bell, not for the roster spot (not needed) but to save some money. If Bell doesn't want to renounce to something, he'll skip tha last chance to play in the nba (and maybe overseas)

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:52 pm
by StocktonShorts
Jefff wrote:pfff, get rid of bell, not for the roster spot (not needed) but to save some money.


We can assume the Jazz have already paid him the majority of the $3.48M he's owed this year; depending on his pay schedule he may have already been paid 2/3 of that amount, meaning he's still owed $1.16M.

If he finds a team that wants him they'll likely sign him to a veteran's minimum deal. The minimum salary for a player with 10+ years experience is $1.35M this year. 1/3 of that (for the remaining games/months left) is $0.45M ($450k).

Assuming Raja doesn't want to leave any money on the table, he would only agree to a buyout that paid him $1.16M - $0.45M = $0.71M ($710k).

With all of these assumptions it seems like the most the Jazz could save by agreeing to a buyout with Raja is $450k, but they have no way of forcing him to accept that. The ball is in his court, so to speak.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:20 pm
by babyjax13
I hope we keep him, if only to ruin the end of his career.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:03 pm
by Fido
Jefff wrote:pfff, get rid of bell, not for the roster spot (not needed) but to save some money. If Bell doesn't want to renounce to something, he'll skip tha last chance to play in the nba (and maybe overseas)

His salary is guaranteed so if you cut him you still pay full price. The only way they don't is if Raja agrees to a buyout--which he will only do if another team is willing to sign him to make up the difference. After March 1 Raja is not eligible to play in the playoffs if he is released and then signed by another team.

Re: Raja Bell waived in 3...2...1...

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:09 pm
by hoops4life
Simple, if he doesn't agree to a buyout then he can't sign with another team.