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Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:49 am
by Leolovinliberal
Kemba Walker, MKG and Biz for Favors, Hayward and Utahs two first round picks
Utahs new starting line up:
PG: Kemba
SG: Alec Burks
SF: MKG
PF: Biz
C: Enes
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:55 am
by RyanStorm
I think Charlotte wants experienced players to help all this young talent.
Walker - MKG - Biz versus (1st round pick(kabongo, burke) - Hayward - Kanter
I think I would stick with what we got.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:11 am
by Litany
I like MKG but I'd stick with our guys for sure.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:16 am
by RyanStorm
I can't believe how bad they lose with so many good players. I would say I want Kemba, but I want to wait till we get our "kemba" in the draft.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:18 am
by JDubJazz
Not a snowball's chance in hell. Especially with draft picks involved too. If anything, picks should be coming back to the Jazz for that steaming pile of meh.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 8:40 am
by RyanStorm
Yeah I was thinking the same at first, but I didn't want to say anything.
I like hypothetical's that analyze how things are or could be, but Charlotte is completely off the map, and if we do anything with them, it better be for their draft picks.
Like a player and draft pick for their better draft pick. Or involve a 3rd team who needs to lose a contract.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:42 pm
by erudite23
Seriously?
It was already a little 'meh', and then you ask for BOTH of our picks? Favors and Hayward are both plus starters right now--despite the fact that they aren't getting the PT they deserve at the moment. MKG is nice, but is offensively challenged and may never be more than a good defending wing with high energy. 'Biz' is of very little value right now, and there's a great shot he's out of the league in a couple years.
Kemba is the key to the deal. I hate him. He's a low efficiency shoot-first PG. I hate those types of players. I don't see him ever being anything more than that. So, no. I'll pass. And that's BEFORE we talk about the draft picks.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:55 pm
by Ming Kong!
I really don't see Kemba as our PG of the future, and I know MKG is supposed to be a fantastic player, but he's still got ways to go before I part with Favors, Hayward, and 2 first round picks for them. Biyombo has been a major disappointment so far too, so he's just a piece for "potential" or filler. I wouldn't do this trade unless you took out Favors, and even then I'd have to think about it.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:10 pm
by jazzrock
No. Because this scenario means that we would bring back Sap. And any scenario that has us bringing back that vastly overrated steaming pile of dung is a huge NO in my book.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:48 pm
by Inigo Montoya
HORRIBLE deal for the jazz. it's basically a low efficiency 6th man (kemba) + a raw and offensively challenged forward who was drafted way too high (reminds me of marvin)+ biyombo who is not a basketball player at all. all of whom do not affect or have much influence on the team's W column.
all that for hayward + favors + 2 first round picks. get that weak stuff out of here.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2013 11:09 am
by KDBG
Leolovinliberal wrote:Kemba Walker, MKG and Biz for Favors, Hayward and Utahs two first round picks
Utahs new starting line up:
PG: Kemba
SG: Alec Burks
SF: MKG
PF: Biz
C: Enes
I actually like that lineup. That could be a nasty defensive team... I just wouldn't give up Favors, Hayward, and two 1sts for it. Also, on the flipside of being an awesome defensive lineup, they would be an atrocious outside shooting team.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2013 5:17 pm
by Hoops Addict
jazzrock wrote:No. Because this scenario means that we would bring back Sap. And any scenario that has us bringing back that vastly overrated steaming pile of dung is a huge NO in my book.
Are you calling MilSAP a steaming pile of dung? If so, you know nothing about basketball. He was a 2nd round pick who has worked on hisgame to evolve intoa 17 points a game scorer and a relentless rebounder.
Still.....If Milsap gets a $12M offer from another team.....I say goodbye.
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Bad trade. Gilcrest has no offense....Biyomba kind of sucks- wont get good probably.....I like KEMBA a lot....would havetraded Jefferson orMilsap for him straight up.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2013 9:41 pm
by StocktonShorts
^^ once upon a time Millsap was a "relentless rebounder" but I haven't seen that from him for years.
Am I wrong?
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2013 10:00 pm
by Inigo Montoya
StocktonShorts wrote:^^ once upon a time Millsap was a "relentless rebounder" but I haven't seen that from him for years.
Am I wrong?
no. he stopped being a "relentless rebounder" the minute he became a starter. he really went after it as a bench player.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sat Mar 9, 2013 11:17 pm
by TheStig15
erudite23 wrote:Seriously?
It was already a little 'meh', and then you ask for BOTH of our picks? Favors and Hayward are both plus starters right now--despite the fact that they aren't getting the PT they deserve at the moment. MKG is nice, but is offensively challenged and may never be more than a good defending wing with high energy. 'Biz' is of very little value right now, and there's a great shot he's out of the league in a couple years.
Kemba is the key to the deal. I hate him. He's a low efficiency shoot-first PG. I hate those types of players. I don't see him ever being anything more than that. So, no. I'll pass. And that's BEFORE we talk about the draft picks.
This
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:45 am
by hoops4life
This makes me borderline sick.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:21 am
by roll
I think key for any deal like this is Favors, Hayword and Kanter will not leave the Jazz. Period.
Re: Would you do this trade with Charlotte?
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:44 pm
by Eoghan
Apologies on Leo's behalf, no rational Bobcat's fan would offer this trade in any seriousness. Charlotte isn't about to give up on their prospects for the future any way; they don't have much value as it is.