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The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 11:38 pm
by Bandwaggoner
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthr ... ost6465904found this gem on Spurstalk.
Lakers have shot 105 more free throws than their opponent in the last ten games, and have shot more in each and every game.
Some of the bigger differences:
33-12
39-22
36-19
28-8
Not sure how much is attributed to intentional fouls on Howard though.
Nice work mid.
Now with the Golden State attempted riggaroo
18 - 7
92 over 11 games.
Discuss.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Mon Apr 8, 2013 11:52 pm
by pickIBL
I don't like the NBA office (basically the head office of revenue and profit) being in charge of everything... because then you have to worry about profit overcoming ethics and the purity of the game. Like in branches of government there needs to be checks and balances to protect the game.
Things like figuring out draft order and officiating should not be under the umbrella of Stern or Silver's total control. I don't want to get too detailed and boring... but there should be a lot more space between the NBA Office and certain things.
There are times where we all know extending the series is more profitable and blowing that whistle helps keep a big market team around. I don't think Stern is bluntly telling them to do this... I think it is a culture and far more subtle.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 12:52 am
by StocktonShorts
Reposting what I said on the general board:
Jazz average about 23.1 FTAs/game. Their opponents average 24.0/game.
I don't buy this conspiracy theory garbage, but a differential of -92 over 11 games (-8.36/game) is significantly higher than their average differential on the season (-0.9/game).
Having watched their games I attribute it mostly to them uncharacteristically relying on outside shooting during the recent stretch.
The Lakers, on the other hand, average a FT differential of +8.2/game, so their number over the past ten games isn't really significantly off their season average. I attribute their large positive FT differential on the season in equal parts to Kobe's reputation/craftiness and hack-a-Howard.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 1:29 am
by Inigo Montoya
it's not only the jazz relying more on outside shoot. it's that we have many players who don't get to the line anyway. big al, marvin, foye and mo. i didn't check but i think millsap took a dip too this year. so it's basically our starting lineup who gets big minutes (marvin started most of the year) who usually don't get many FT. add to that tinsley and watson as well, the murph who doesn't get PT and evans who hardly does. you're pretty much left with hayward, kanter, favors and burks who get to the line at a good rate but get only limited minutes off the bench.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 3:12 am
by RyanStorm
The main thing that is proving is the Jazz's inability to get fouls. If you remember correctly they didn't shoot the first FT's against GSW until mid 3rd Quarter.
I just see it as less offensive pressure that we should be doing.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 3:52 am
by The59Sound
The Jazz come out like proud lions attacking the flesh on their preys (which means they foul a lot).
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2013 2:57 pm
by countrybama24
Bandwaggoner wrote:
Discuss.
It's what happens when you start mo williams, randy foye and al jefferson.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:55 am
by Ern III
I'm not one to don the tin foil hat either. Stockton Shorts explains it above. The athleticism and/or creativity necessary to get frequently fouled by disadvantaged defenders is not exactly abundant on this Jazz roster.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:31 pm
by Inigo Montoya
Ern III wrote:I'm not one to don the tin foil hat either. Stockton Shorts explains it above. The athleticism and/or creativity necessary to get frequently fouled by disadvantaged defenders is not exactly abundant on this Jazz roster.
it's abundant enough. it is just sitting on the bench.
Re: The Jazz have a -92 FT difference over the past 11 games
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:34 pm
by Shem
Dave over at BlazersEdge wrote this:
The Lakers average 8.4 more free throw attempts per game than their opponents over the course of the season. The Jazz are nowhere close, ceding 1 free throw attempt per game to their opponents.
The last 10 games the Lakers have registered a +13.5 margin on free throw attempts per game. That's 161% of their norm, an increase of +5.1 free throw attempts per game over their opponent on average.
Over that same period the free throw (dis)advantage of the Jazz has dropped from -1.0 attempts per game to -4.7 attempts per game. That's 470% worse than what you'd predict from their season average, 3.7 fewer attempts per game than opponents.
The Jazz average 23 free throw attempts per game for the season. They have failed to reach that average in 9 out of their last 10 games. They have failed to reach their average free throw attempt margin in 7 of the last 10 games.
The Lakers have only been above their average of 27.8 free throws per game in 5 of the last 10 games. But that doesn't tell the whole story. They have attempted more free throws than their opponent in every one of those games, exceeding their average free throw attempt margin in 7 of the 10.
Based on their season average for foul shots made, L.A.'s increased free throw margin in the last 10 games has accounted for +3.5 points per game over their opponent on average. Their average margin of victory in that stretch has been 1.7 points per game.
For those who want to know how much the Golden State outing skewed the numbers, if you pare down Dwight Howard's 22 attempts against the Warriors to his season average of 9 free throws you still end up with the Lakers at a +12.2 margin per game in the last 10, 145% of their norm. This would account for +2.6 points per game on average against a margin of victory of 1.7.
That's just a portion of it. The whole thing is here:
http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/4/13/42 ... piracy-nba